Aliens Colonial Marines playable female marine petition
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I was all ready to come in here, and ask why you wanted them to extend the development time even further, just so they can add more models.
Then you mentioned they had the models in the single player. So the exclusion from the multiplayer does baffle me a little.
Then you mentioned they had the models in the single player. So the exclusion from the multiplayer does baffle me a little.
I see your point but I think people need to realise that facts are more important than feelings and that we shouldn't act on them until its all been put into context. for instance most of the reaction iv seen is "their being sexist because they don't like women" etc. however has anyone asked them why they did it? because as you said its how it appears. However things aren't always as they appear. maybe we should ask why they did it and then put forward a few suggestions. like take out a few maps or reduce the number of players from 32 to 16 (if that's possible)Lilani said:
its easy just to say "oh its because of sexism" but maybe we should look at it from their perspective first. Maybe we should ask why they did it and then give them suggestions on how to fix it instead of just demanding that they do?
Also this isn't the first time this has happened. in the first saints row you couldn't have a female character, single or multilayer. this was because the publisher saw saints row as a "GTA Clone" and so didn't want to place a big investment on it. so much so actually that the PC only had 3 lines of dialogue. However after the success of the first game, the developer was given just over double the budget for the second game over the first, allowing them to make it look better, play better and have fully customizable PC's including Female ones.
Also hypothetically, would anyone be making a petition if they reversed the genders?
There were three female Colonial Marines, actually.Akalabeth said:
Private First Class Jenette Vasquez - Smartgun Operator
Corporal Colette Ferro - UD4-L "Cheyenne" Dropship Pilot
Corporal Cynthia Dietrich - Field Medic
Cpl. Dietrich was captured by a Xenomorph Warrior, and presumably died to either a chestburster (Hudson mentions her still being alive later on in the APC) or to the reactor meldown. It was actually Private Rico Frost who was killed by friendly-fire. Corporal Dietrich hit him with her flamethrower accidentally when the Xenomorph grabbed her.Falseprophet said:
I'd actually find that mildly amusing, since Michelle Rodriguez probably wouldn't even have a career if it weren't for how many times she's mimicked PFC Vasquez.LetalisK said:
>First paragraph or soKrantos said:
Then it's a game that missed it's chance for merit, maybe even just a bad game.
We are talking about MP here. There is no canon. We are talking about adding boobs and a higher pitched voice to a soulless avatar. Nothing more. All the important things are to be found in SP where there is female characters. You know things like character development. Forming a petition/getting pissy because your walking gun doesn't have boobs speaks loudly about all that is wrong with this gender war going on in the industry as of late.Nouw said:Well if equality doesn't sit well with you how about respecting the canon and history of AliensSmashLovesTitanQuest said:?
wait that doesnt make sense. why would they have females in single player but not multiplayer? id think, if anything, it would be the other way around. another question is, why does it matter? im a very vocal feminist but isnt this a first person game? i wouldnt even be able to see myself
I'm afraid I cannot sign this as I feel strongely about this issue. I want, nay, DEMAND, a playable Xenomorph Queen petition!
Wait... there were two female marines? I thought DigitalAtlas just got Ripley confused for a marine. I need to watch that movie again.Akalabeth said:
OT: You know, if there were no female marines in either singleplayer or multiplayer, I could understand it, for practical reasons if nothing else. I'm confused as to why it would be singleplayer only, though.
P.S.: Akalabeth, nice name. I've been meaning to re-read the Silmarillion for a while now.
Edit: Three female marines, even. I'm /really/ due for a re-watch.
Like I said, need to re-watch that movie. I never caught either of the other two female marines.Akalabeth said:
As for the name: that's kind of cool, and he must have. I don't know if you've read it or not, but The Silmarillion is split up into several books, each of which tells a different part of the overall history of Middle Earth. The Akallabeth (two l's, I checked) was the one that covered the second age, particularly the fall of Numenor.
I think it's safe to assume that we didn't sign it so we can oggle girls. Aliens has never been about that. We want them because canon/equality/whatever other reason. It's ridiculous to assume we want them because of boobs when everyone here has said otherwise.squid5580 said:
And yes the multiplayer doesn't follow the canon but that doesn't mean there isn't one. It's still a part of the Aliens universe and it should still incorporate the female marines.
They are working hard on making a decent game. Playing as female marines could be part of that though.flames09 said:
Think this is really stupid. The main character is a set character, probably with a back story. If the game was an RPG, and the character customization excluded female characters, then sure, petition away. But asking a company to add a female protagonist this late in development is just pointless.
Why? What difference does it make on the chest size of a MP avatar? You are asking them to change a lot for an aesthetic purpose. And before the tired ME3 and TF2 arguement comes in again lets face the facts. TF2 compensates the differing hitboxes with differing hitpoints to compensate. And ME3 doesn't have hitboxes that matter to the player since it is player vs AI. Let the canon rest easy where it belongs in the SP. So the MP isn't affected by hits not registering because I hit a breast that doesn't exist in the computer's eye.Nouw said:
Abnfd just because every movie had at least 1 female marine facing them doesn't mean every team had the tokin chick. There is your canon.
From the game modes so far, the hitbox really shouldn't be an issue because human vs human game modes haven't been announced. Unless you're being a dick and killing your own team mates, there should be no reason as to why you're shooting a marine. When you're playing as an alien, the only thing that should really matter is height/mass because you're using melee/assassination attacks. With melee, you're far less likely to miss because of a breast. You're either within range of hitting them or you're not. Females won't be any taller or larger than a male so hitboxes shouldn't be an issue. If the alien had a ranged attack like the marines do, that could be an issue but for now it's melee. In all my hours of playing Halo:Reach, hitboxes has never been an issue, despite massive armour, when melee'ing.squid5580 said:
Yes, there isn't an 'X number of X genders' in each squad but that doesn't invalidate the ones that do exist. If someone wants to play as a female marine, let them play as a female marine. It's not that big a deal.
