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AlexWinter

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someonehairy-ish said:
If your girlfriend/boyfriend/wife/husband/sex robot/other offered you a 'hall pass' IE; a chance to go sleep with someone else without her/him/it having a problem with it - would you take that chance or would you prefer not to?
I probably would but I'd have to make sure she was completely OK with it and not just trying to make me happy or whatever.

Also I'd only use it out of curiosity or if I wanted to prove a point... I can't really explain that very well without sounding like a douche.

...Awkward looks inside one's self.
 

DanielBrown

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In my experience girls are the major cheaters. Known a ton of girls who cheated on their boyfriends, but I don't know any guys who ever did it. As for myself; I never cheated, but I've been "the other guy" way too many times.
 

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Basically everyone in the thread parroted the social meme that "cheating is bad".

All men before being socially harangued into feeling that their inclinations towards promiscuity are "bad" cheat.

Your friend is right, just because a guy cheats doesn't mean he doesn't have feelings for whoever his main is at the moment, it's just a part of being a guy.

Saying otherwise is just bs.

Is anyone naturally monogamous? NO. Therefore everyone is predisposed to cheating. Social conditioning can change the feelings towards cheating but not the propensity for it.
 

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Daystar Clarion said:
Hi.

I'm Daystar Clarion.

You may know me from such social statuses as 'I've been with the same girl since I was 15', and 'Love is playing Borderlands coop with your significant other, then having sex with her'.

And I didn't cheat in any of them :D

Quoted for truth, as I'm in the same situation as Daystar Clarion here. Though I've only been with my partner for..two and a half years.

Also, I love that gif.
 

EclipseoftheDarkSun

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I expect the majority of men (and women) would cheat if approached in the right way or at a vulnerable moment of stress in the relationship. But I'm sure a minority would stay strong or not be tempted at all - either because they're obsessed with their partner or they can look ahead at the probable consequence of the actions and don't want to risk them/bear a burden of guilt, especially if they have children. Plus some would just not like her attitude towards the relationship they value.
 

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Daystar Clarion said:
Hi.

I'm Daystar Clarion.

You may know me from such social statuses as 'I've been with the same girl since I was 15', and 'Love is playing Borderlands coop with your significant other, then having sex with her'.

And I didn't cheat in any of them :D

you sir, with the internet, from my point of view, cant talk about being with my girl since 15, but 3 years works too, the other part, is awsome ;) -highfives-
 

JeffBergGold

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Mortai Gravesend said:
Yes, because no doubt they're just doing it because it's a social meme.
They are.
Mortai Gravesend said:
Your evidence, where is it? I'm going to say your 'evidence' is probably your insecurity about how society doesn't like people like you so you want to pretend we're all like you.
http://www.drozfans.com/dr-ozs-advice/dr-oz-the-science-of-why-men-cheat/

You'd be incorrect around 60% of men and women cheat in their relationships. The faithful are definitely the minority for men and women. If society didn't like cheaters there wouldn't be so many of them around.

Mortai Gravesend said:
No, it really isn't. Evidence: I'm a guy. Looks like the problem is you.
You're an anomaly not in anyway a good representation of the average male. I can tell by how emotional you're getting over a forum post that you have inclinations towards effeminacy.

(Although, it can be argued you are the norm in this particular domain)

Mortai Gravesend said:
Backed by mountains of... nothingness.
http://www.drozfans.com/dr-ozs-advice/dr-oz-the-science-of-why-men-cheat/

Mortai Gravesend said:
Lol? Load of crap. Quite irrelevant what we naturally are. We're not particularly predisposed to it just because it isn't built in to be monogamous. In the end, you're probably just trying to justify yourself.
http://www.drozfans.com/dr-ozs-advice/dr-oz-the-science-of-why-men-cheat/

Humans are not designed to be monogamous, particularly males. Covering your ears and screaming really loudly is not going to change the validity of my statements. A simple google search will confirm everything I've stated.

Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's not true!
 

Starik20X6

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I'm insulted that I've been branded a cheater by some skank I've never met. What the hell.

I've never cheated and never plan to or be party to cheating. The only time I've been 'cheated' on was when my last girlfriend drunkenly (so she said) got her bi on and made out with another girl. I didn't care though, because hey, hot.
 

Rblade

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bullshit, Everyone has urges sometimes but we are not monkey´s so we can choose to ignore them.

Some people choose not to, But everyone can.

And I´m pretty sure men and women are not different in this regard
 

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JeffBergGold said:
Basically everyone in the thread parroted the social meme that "cheating is bad".

All men before being socially harangued into feeling that their inclinations towards promiscuity are "bad" cheat.

Your friend is right, just because a guy cheats doesn't mean he doesn't have feelings for whoever his main is at the moment, it's just a part of being a guy.

Saying otherwise is just bs.

Is anyone naturally monogamous? NO. Therefore everyone is predisposed to cheating. Social conditioning can change the feelings towards cheating but not the propensity for it.

Excusing terrible behavior because it's "natural" is essentially saying "I lack the willpower to control even the basest of urges."

There's a lot of things that we are hard wired to do that we pretty much decided to stop doing because doing so benefits our society as a whole and our social rules are what define us as a society and allows our civilization to thrive.

For example, we reach sexual maturity at an average age of 12. Biologically most girls are capable of conception and birth at that age meaning they should be "fair game" by the standards of our natural instinct toward procreation. But we still got together and decided that fucking kids is universally god awful and that anyone who does it should be rightfully punished.
 

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Diddy_Mao said:
JeffBergGold said:
Basically everyone in the thread parroted the social meme that "cheating is bad".

All men before being socially harangued into feeling that their inclinations towards promiscuity are "bad" cheat.

Your friend is right, just because a guy cheats doesn't mean he doesn't have feelings for whoever his main is at the moment, it's just a part of being a guy.

Saying otherwise is just bs.

Is anyone naturally monogamous? NO. Therefore everyone is predisposed to cheating. Social conditioning can change the feelings towards cheating but not the propensity for it.

Excusing terrible behavior because it's "natural" is essentially saying "I lack the willpower to control even the basest of urges."

There's a lot of things that we are hard wired to do that we pretty much decided to stop doing because doing so benefits our society as a whole and our social rules are what define us as a society and allows our civilization to thrive.

For example, we reach sexual maturity at an average age of 12. Biologically most girls are capable of conception and birth at that age meaning they should be "fair game" by the standards of our natural instinct toward procreation. But we still got together and decided that fucking kids is universally god awful and that anyone who does it should be rightfully punished.
I don't see how the age of sexual maturity has anything to do with cheating.

Just because a woman reaches reproductive age does not mean a male will be attracted to her. The supposition you're making is a bit ridiculous.

It seems to me that you're trying to conflate cheating with pedophilia.
 

Diddy_Mao

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JeffBergGold said:
Diddy_Mao said:
JeffBergGold said:
Basically everyone in the thread parroted the social meme that "cheating is bad".

All men before being socially harangued into feeling that their inclinations towards promiscuity are "bad" cheat.

Your friend is right, just because a guy cheats doesn't mean he doesn't have feelings for whoever his main is at the moment, it's just a part of being a guy.

Saying otherwise is just bs.

Is anyone naturally monogamous? NO. Therefore everyone is predisposed to cheating. Social conditioning can change the feelings towards cheating but not the propensity for it.

Excusing terrible behavior because it's "natural" is essentially saying "I lack the willpower to control even the basest of urges."

There's a lot of things that we are hard wired to do that we pretty much decided to stop doing because doing so benefits our society as a whole and our social rules are what define us as a society and allows our civilization to thrive.

For example, we reach sexual maturity at an average age of 12. Biologically most girls are capable of conception and birth at that age meaning they should be "fair game" by the standards of our natural instinct toward procreation. But we still got together and decided that fucking kids is universally god awful and that anyone who does it should be rightfully punished.
I don't see how the age of sexual maturity has anything to do with cheating.

Just because a woman reaches reproductive age does not mean a male will be attracted to her. The supposition you're making is a bit ridiculous.

It seems to me that you're trying to conflate cheating with pedophilia.
Is cheating the same as pedophilia? No, of course not and I'm not trying to say that it is. I'm simply using it as an example, albeit an extreme one, of the necessity for social laws or rules of etiquette and conduct to take priority over the behaviors that one could argue are natural drives.
 

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hazabaza1 said:
I'm gonna have to mimic these Nathan Fillion gifs, at least spiritually.
Saying "All men cheat" is as valid as saying "All women cheat." It's obviously false and stupid and anyone who says it is a fucking idiot.
B-but don't you see? Women only cheat because of THE PATRIARCHYtm! Men cheat because they're bastards who deserve genocide.
 

Alterego-X

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I've always been a big fan of monogamy.
Generally I'm not even prudish at all, I'm morally OK with homosexuality, poligamy, or even incest (among consenting adults using protection), but only in committed long term relationships that are intended to be permanent.

All that casual sex, and cheating, and fuck buddies, and prostitution, and all that really, really irks me.
 

Myndnix

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I'm going to have to disagree here too.
My ex and I were together for four years and I never cheated once.
She, on the other hand, did. That's why she's my ex.
 

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JeffBergGold said:
Mortai Gravesend said:
and[/b] women. If society didn't like cheaters there wouldn't be so many of them around.
Aha ha ha ha ha ha ha... Dr. Oz.

Wow, that article said Vasopressin was a gene. A gene.

Before you take something Dr. Oz says seriously... ever... maybe you could look up the REAL rates. From real studies. Not fans of a guy on television.

The largest number I could find from a reputable source was between 30% and 60% of people have cheated at least once in a relationship.

That's a huge range, which basically says "no accurate measurement available," though you could construe from the 20%ish of young men who admit to cheating and the 15%ish of young women who admit to cheating that it's probably less than 50% of people who cheat.


Don't ever quote Dr. Oz's fans ever again as evidence for anything. Might double for Dr. Oz most of the time, as his advice has gone pretty wacko over the last few years.