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Kinguendo

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Terminate421 said:
Less criticisms about it's "Not an RPG" or "Boring Dragon Fights" or "It's not an Elder Scrolls game!" or "It has a bad story/ending" or "It's not MY game wahhhhhh!"

All Skyrim needs is for those people to go away.

Also, enemies must lose their ability to perform insta-kill animations on the Player.

EDIT: I meant specifically THOSE criticisms, most of those ones come down to whining and moaning about how this game isn't perfect whilst perfectly valid criticisms are shoved aside.
I dont think its fair that you can get some tasty kills on enemies but they cant do the same to you if they get a lucky crit. hit, I was fighting a guy earlier who headbutted me to death but it happens when you are trying to raise your armour by taking a few hits. Easiest way to avoid those insta-kills? Dont get hit. :D
 

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All it needs is some truly unique handcrafted loot that would actually make going into those fancy dungeons worth my fucking time... >_> *goes off to play morrowind* --> thats actually a lie I'm going to play EVE :D
 

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Personally I found Oblivion to be barely average. But in hindsight it was golden compared to what we have at the moment.

But that's all redundant, because there is nothing we can really expect from Bethesda that will improve it. Their DLC so far is just bullshit. My copy of Skyrim doesn't work with Hearthfire installed. That's absolute fucking bullshit.

My OP was an attempt to put all the common complaints aside and present a viable solution to the biggest shortfall the game has.
But, with the results of the current DLC. It's not viable. Bethesda can't make a fucking game that works, let alone improve upon the abortion they have.
 

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Somonah said:
All the things you mentioned have already been done with mods.


Oh you got it on xbox? sucks to be you then.
Is it difficult to type with your head that far up your own arse?
 

Zeema

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More enemy types and cool boss battles i felt fighting dragons was hit the pinata
 

viranimus

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All Skyrim needs is...

To have simply been the unequaled 2011 RPG of the year.......Dark Souls?
To not have been unjustly popularized to the point it lets Bethesda adversely effect ALL RPGs.... AGAIN?
To have something other than "ITS TEH WURLD!!!" as its point of justification?
To not manage to excel at both tedium and mediocrity?
To be a 10 month old game and have the audacity to only JUST receive its first MSRP price break... down to 40$?!?!

Yeah, there is really no end to this. Actually I sort of find this thread refreshing because It was starting to seem like Bethesda had almost Valve like truthful criticism armor for the mental gymnastics people go through in order to defend them.
 

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Somonah said:
normaly it would be but i got some mods to make it easier.
I lol'd, good come back.

viranimus said:
All Skyrim needs is...

To have simply been the unequaled 2011 RPG of the year.......Dark Souls?
To not have been unjustly popularized to the point it lets Bethesda adversely effect ALL RPGs.... AGAIN?
To have something other than "ITS TEH WURLD!!!" as its point of justification?
To not manage to excel at both tedium and mediocrity?
To be a 10 month old game and have the audacity to only JUST receive its first MSRP price break... down to 40$?!?!

Yeah, there is really no end to this. Actually I sort of find this thread refreshing because It was starting to seem like Bethesda had almost Valve like truthful criticism armor for the mental gymnastics people go through in order to defend them.
I have to agree about the mental gymnastics people do. It rivals some creationist arguments at times, in terms of out right stupidity...
At least Valve make good games. If Bethesda was a car manufacture, they would be based in Russia...

Mygaffer said:
Skyrim is technically great but as an experience actually very mediocre, the worst of the Elder Scrolls games yet, of course I have only been playing since Morrowind. I really don't know what is wrong with it, but it just gets boring in a way that Morrowind never did.
Morrowind rewarded exploration. It encouraged exploration and the narrative was interesting.
The world is unique and interesting and the characters well written.

In short, the polar opposite to Skyrim.
 

Mariakko

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All Skyrim needs (IMO) is:
-To get rid of leveled loot and monsters and replace it with static loot and monsters
-To get rid of fast travel
-To get rid of marking places on the map
-To get rid of the stylized kills
-To bring back the skills they took out
-Remove voice acting and use the budget and time they use to do that do make a better story.
-Essentially be Morrowind
 

Soopy

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Mariakko said:
All Skyrim needs (IMO) is:
-To get rid of leveled loot and monsters and replace it with static loot and monsters
-To get rid of fast travel
-To get rid of marking places on the map
-To get rid of the stylized kills
-To bring back the skills they took out
-Remove voice acting and use the budget and time they use to do that do make a better story.
-Essentially be Morrowind
I have to agree with that also. All of it.

Leveled loot is the most moronic idea to have ever been consieved in the RPG world. It obliterates any reason to do anything.
 

Terminate421

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Kinguendo said:
Terminate421 said:
Less criticisms about it's "Not an RPG" or "Boring Dragon Fights" or "It's not an Elder Scrolls game!" or "It has a bad story/ending" or "It's not MY game wahhhhhh!"

All Skyrim needs is for those people to go away.

Also, enemies must lose their ability to perform insta-kill animations on the Player.

EDIT: I meant specifically THOSE criticisms, most of those ones come down to whining and moaning about how this game isn't perfect whilst perfectly valid criticisms are shoved aside.
I dont think its fair that you can get some tasty kills on enemies but they cant do the same to you if they get a lucky crit. hit, I was fighting a guy earlier who headbutted me to death but it happens when you are trying to raise your armour by taking a few hits. Easiest way to avoid those insta-kills? Dont get hit. :D
It's that the animations are unavoidable and often bullshit. I'll be 90 degrees to the left of an ancient dragon and hit with something, next I teleport in front and am forced to watch myself die, I know dragons are supposed to be dangerous in melee but there's a difference between powerful and bullshit.
 

Meight08

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.... To not be on consoles so that the game wont be hold back by crappy console hardware.
*runs into bunker and puts on fire resistant clothes*
I regret nothing!
 

Soopy

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rolfwesselius said:
.... To not be on consoles so that the game wont be hold back by crappy console hardware.
*runs into bunker and puts on fire resistant clothes*
I regret nothing!
Eh, its true. Although I don't think the technical limitations of the current console generation are Skyrims biggest detractors.
 

Mid Boss

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Soopy said:
Hey guys,

As I've made apparent in previous posts I'm not a huge fan of Skyrim. I picked it up again today just to smack some things over the head and watch them turn dead for a little while.

And of course its the same old story, march for ever. Find next to nothing of interest and gain very little.

But that got me to thinking. If you ignore that Skyrim is (IMO at least) a poor TES title. All it really needs is some new or more monster spawns and the possibility to find some powerful loot (more so then what is possible to craft).

Add in some champion MOB's and there we go, a reason to actually venture out into the wilderness. It's not perfect, but it wouldn't be a detriment.

What do you think?
More monsters?

Just like every Skyrim problem, there's a mod for that.

http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/9694

There you go. Over 100 more monsters and they update often with more.
 

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viranimus said:
All Skyrim needs is...

To have simply been the unequaled 2011 RPG of the year.......Dark Souls?
To not have been unjustly popularized to the point it lets Bethesda adversely effect ALL RPGs.... AGAIN?
To have something other than "ITS TEH WURLD!!!" as its point of justification?
To not manage to excel at both tedium and mediocrity?
To be a 10 month old game and have the audacity to only JUST receive its first MSRP price break... down to 40$?!?!
Wait, those aren't things that can be made additions to a video game? What the? Oh. Oh I see now.

Yeah, there is really no end to this. Actually I sort of find this thread refreshing because It was starting to seem like Bethesda had almost Valve like truthful criticism armor for the mental gymnastics people go through in order to defend them.
That may be but some people acknowledge the problems and still love the game. That's an Elder Scrolls staple, after all. When you don't at least demonstrate some kind of understanding of why that is even if you still think it's dumb, it kind of makes it look like it just went over your head. If you find this thread refreshing you should come here more often, we have three of these a week and each one is more refreshing than the last.

Dark Souls: ""IT'S HARD SO IT'S GOOD" wow look how dumb Dark Souls fanboys are". See how annoying that is?

I'm very curious to learn how Bethesda is adversely affecting ALL RPGs other than by making a game that you don't like.

I have to agree about the mental gymnastics people do. It rivals some creationist arguments at times, in terms of out right stupidity...
At least Valve make good games. If Bethesda was a car manufacture, they would be based in Russia...
Creationists are typically very defensive, quick to dismiss arguments, abusive, and they love to erect straw men to beat up. If Bethesda was a car manufacturer, they would make awesome cars.

Look guys, this isn't right. You can criticize a game very harshly but lashing out at the fans doesn't make you look cool and it smacks of insecurity in your opinions. And we really didn't need a thread so you could tell us you went out of your way to reinforce the opinion you already held.

Soopy said:
Mygaffer said:
Skyrim is technically great but as an experience actually very mediocre, the worst of the Elder Scrolls games yet, of course I have only been playing since Morrowind. I really don't know what is wrong with it, but it just gets boring in a way that Morrowind never did.
Morrowind rewarded exploration. It encouraged exploration and the narrative was interesting.
The world is unique and interesting and the characters well written.

In short, the polar opposite to Skyrim.
Oblivion you mean. Skyrim does all those things pretty well, but not as well as Morrowind. But way better than Oblivion.
Terminate421 said:
It's that the animations are unavoidable and often bullshit. I'll be 90 degrees to the left of an ancient dragon and hit with something, next I teleport in front and am forced to watch myself die, I know dragons are supposed to be dangerous in melee but there's a difference between powerful and bullshit.
The death animation is occurring because you suffered fatal damage. It's unavoidable because you are already dead. EDIT: I think I better clarify. It looks like you're being killed by some crazy special attack, but it's just an animation. If the animations had been disabled, you would have been killed by a normal looking attack and just fallen to the ground like normal.
 

Soopy

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Mid Boss said:
Soopy said:
Hey guys,

As I've made apparent in previous posts I'm not a huge fan of Skyrim. I picked it up again today just to smack some things over the head and watch them turn dead for a little while.

And of course its the same old story, march for ever. Find next to nothing of interest and gain very little.

But that got me to thinking. If you ignore that Skyrim is (IMO at least) a poor TES title. All it really needs is some new or more monster spawns and the possibility to find some powerful loot (more so then what is possible to craft).

Add in some champion MOB's and there we go, a reason to actually venture out into the wilderness. It's not perfect, but it wouldn't be a detriment.

What do you think?
More monsters?

Just like every Skyrim problem, there's a mod for that.

http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/9694

There you go. Over 100 more monsters and they update often with more.
I play on the 360. My laptop will run a heavily modded Oblivion, which has a 10x more content and 10x the graphical quality of the vanilla Skyrim, yet Skyrim won't run faster then slideshow spec.
It was okay on the 360 besides the lack of anything to do, until I downloaded Dawnguard and Hearthfire. Now it doesn't work for more then 5mins before it to chugs and freezes.