... Am I actually starting to ENJOY anime?

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CarpathianMuffin

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Anime tends to have more compelling stories than western cartoons, as well as just plain insanity. There's the good, there's the bad, but it has a good number of high quality series. A good number have proven very introspective in scope, and thus interest me greatly.
I started actually watching for the same reason as the OP, and it was a steep and slippery slope from there.
 

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BX3 said:
3b. I'm not entirely sure how to respond to this. I get what you mean, and admittedly, I too find it a bit confusing when honorifics are replaced (not when they're removed, though.). The big-brother thing is weird for me as well. At the same time, as a fandubber, I understand that stuff like that leaves a tough decision for the writer. Change 'em, and you incur the wrath of purists and make dialogue in Japan-set shows feel unnatural and forced. Keep 'em and the dialogue becomes slightly disjointed and still sounds unnatural or even a bit annoying (honorifics just don't fit well in our speech). Getting rid of them is just the easiest thing to do in that case.

4. Monkey D Luffy.
3b. Oddly enough I don't mind it when they leave 'em in especially in Japan set show, particularly because there's no real English Equivelant.
EG. There's a german word (that I'm not sure I'm spelling right) Backfeifangesicht, it means "A face badly in need of a fist" good luck translating THAT literally, this would be one case where a woolyism is needed.
I can only think of one woolyisms I personally like, it's in bleach oddly enough, Kenpachi's nickname Ken-Chan gets changed to kenny, while not quite as good as it loses some meaning it was a necessery cange after they removed the suffixes from their names.

The main problem with removing them is that a lot of the meaning and subtlety behind what they are saying is lost, at least when they're left in you can learn the meanings and glean some of what was intended.

But now I'm ranting.

4. 4kids Dub makes me cry, haven't seen the Funimation dub though, I got about fifty to eighty episodes in fansubbed then kinda lost interest.

As I said though if it's bad I'd probably have snapped long before I lost interest.

Well it's been fun discussing this with you, but I feel if we continue we'll just start repeating ourselves at this point.

In the end it comes down to personal preferance I guess, though I will say now that subs are now and will forever be better, I'm not gonna jump down somnebodies throat for prefering dubs.
Unless of course it's because they "don't like to read", god that annoys me.

It's just personal preference which one you want to watch, I just know that with a very few exceptions I'd personally rather watch subs that watch even a good dub.
Heh, I was actually talkin' about Japanese Luffy, but yeah, 4K Luffy goes without saying how skull-f--kingly mind numbing that voice is. Coleen Clinkenbeard (FUNI Luffy) I actually have no problem with, but I'll be straight with you: I just really love Coleen Clinkenbeard. Her voice to people who aren't me can get just as grating I assume.

But anyway, yeah it's been fun discussing this (part of the reason I signed up here; you don't get this kinda talk in some other forums). And yes, that's a sentiment I can get behind and what I hope we as anime fans can accept soon. We have our preferences, we have our reasons for said preferences. Discuss said preferences, but don't get in eachother's faces (so to speak) and insult the other half simply for having said preferences (unless they're asshats). It's the same damn show in the end.
 

moretimethansense

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BX3 said:
Heh, I was actually talkin' about Japanese Luffy, but yeah, 4K Luffy goes without saying how skull-f--kingly mind numbing that voice is. Coleen Clinkenbeard (FUNI Luffy) I actually have no problem with, but I'll be straight with you: I just really love Coleen Clinkenbeard. Her voice to people who aren't me can get just as grating I assume.

But anyway, yeah it's been fun discussing this (part of the reason I signed up here; you don't get this kinda talk in some other forums). And yes, that's a sentiment I can get behind and what I hope we as anime fans can accept soon. We have our preferences, we have our reasons for said preferences. Discuss said preferences, but don't get in eachother's faces (so to speak) and insult the other half simply for having said preferences (unless they're asshats). It's the same damn show in the end.
I agree, except for one minor gripe (sorry I know I said I was done) some dubs (usually but not always only the REALLY bad ones) completely change the mood of the show, thankfully that's on the decline but still...

though even completely changing the theme has worked at least once.

Xpwn3ntial said:
moretimethansense said:
Hahaha, you think that's bad? Yui sounds every bit as annoying in Japanese. Yes; she does. That is superlative compared to what I consider to be a bad dub. But hey, that's just like, my opinion, man.
D: oh god, you're joking right?

I have yet to watch this I've got it just sitting there for when I'm in the mood, I really hope your kiding.

And I'm fully aware tht there's far worse, I was just using that as a recent exxample.
 

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Nylarathotep said:
MASTACHIEFPWN said:
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Join us~

It seems like you are starting to enjoy it, now the training can begin.
I REFUSE TO BOW TO YOUR IMPERALIST FLAG! XD
You dare refuse us?!



ALL HAIL BRITANNIA!!!
Pretty much this.

Also, there's nothing wrong with anime as long as you do things other than watch/talk/read/eat/sleep/breath/I think you get the point by now, about anime. I've seen more than I can possibly even remember all of the titles to, and most of them are simply OK. There are a handful out there though that are like finding a diamond in a big heaping pile of mediocrity.
 

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Yeah, i sort of know what you mean, i got into anime like Pokemon and Naruto when i was younger but then i just kind of forgot about anime existing for a while, then one of my friends sent me an anime called "Shuffle!" at first when watching it i did as i do with EVERYTHING and started trying to guess what was going to happen in the end, it seemed like the normal old run of the mill anime setting, teenage guy surrounded by beautiful girls with tragic pasts and secrets, they all have a secret crush on him but then the main character just started not doing ANY of the stuff i expected him to, i honestly liked it a lot and started looking for more, if you liked Darker than Black you may like 11 Eyes, Higurashi, Bakemonogatari, Chaos;Head and Code Geass ,i thought they were pretty good.
 

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moretimethansense said:
D: oh god, you're joking right?

I have yet to watch this I've got it just sitting there for when I'm in the mood, I really hope your kiding.

And I'm fully aware tht there's far worse, I was just using that as a recent example.
I never joke. I grew up watching Speed Racer, Astro Boy, Gigantor, 4kids stuff, and the like. What most people consider "bad" I call "slightly above average" because I have seen the worst dubbing has to offer.

Here's a point of reference. I call Pokemon's 4kids dub average.

EDIT: I take that back, I call the original Media Blasters Ruroni Kenshin dub average.
 

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CM156 said:
I am not a fan. I think the anamation is nice, but I dislike more what anime fandom does to people, like this poor man:(Not safe for sanity)
CRISPIN FREEMAN DISAPPROVES!

OT: Anime is just a medium that happens to be primarily foreign. Don't worry about it.
 

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Xpwn3ntial said:
moretimethansense said:
D: oh god, you're joking right?

I have yet to watch this I've got it just sitting there for when I'm in the mood, I really hope your kiding.

And I'm fully aware tht there's far worse, I was just using that as a recent example.
I never joke. I grew up watching Speed Racer, Astro Boy, Gigantor, 4kids stuff, and the like. What most people consider "bad" I call "slightly above average" because I have seen the worst dubbing has to offer.

Here's a point of reference. I call Pokemon's 4kids dub average.
For a dub sure, but I liked Pokemons dub, granted I was nine the last time I watched it and didn't know any better :p.

From what I remember though I don't think I hated the voices quite as much as I hate... that.
 

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It appears you might be in the process of widening your horizon...
Quick, stop it before it gets wider. We need to preserve all the cultural ignorance that we can!
 

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Nylarathotep said:
MASTACHIEFPWN said:
CM156 said:
I am not a fan. I think the anamation is nice, but I dislike more what anime fandom does to people, like this poor man:(Not safe for sanity)
GEH! MAH EYES!

But I don't have any odd cosplay sensations such as that. The furthiest I would go currently is Hei from Darker than Black in his Black reaper gear... OH GOD I'M STARTING TO SOUND LIKE MY ANIME OBSESED FRIENDS!
Hahaha! "Sailor Bubba" does that the first time you see him.

And being a fan is fine. Being a weirdo that goes around wearing cat ears and screaming "desu, desu, desu!" is not fine.
KNOW THE DIFFERENCE!
Hey! Keep your hands off my cat ears. ;p

(But seriously, I'm nuts, technically, irrespective of liking anime or not, so whatever.)
 

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MASTACHIEFPWN said:
the Manga section in the school library
you have a manga section in school library?


the awesome facial expressions.
 

Xpwn3ntial

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moretimethansense said:
For a dub sure, but I liked Pokemons dub, granted I was nine the last time I watched it and didn't know any better :p.

From what I remember though I don't think I hated the voices quite as much as I hate... that.
I edited my earlier statement, I call Ruroni Kenshin's Media Blasters dub average. Pokemon is a hair above average.
 

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As for your sudden liking of anime, it's not too surprising. Anime is just another type of medium. You probably just had little exposure to it, and what you did see was probably the stupid stuff.

As for my opinion of anime/manga, it goes like this: 95% of the mediums are totally crap, but the other 5% for each is amazingly good. It's kind of a weird hate/love relationship.
 

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I like the animation and the culture, it is most intresting to someone like me, and also anime grew on me too, I watched Yu Gi oh and I liked it (when I was young) then Naruto but then I got lost on the Cartoon Network eps, A bit of bleach and then I got lost, and then I watched more naruto around two years ago and since then I loved it, then I got into romance.....like Clannad, awesome
 

Gigano

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Probably more you enjoying a story told in the form of an anime.

Like "Hollywood movies", the best and the worst can be found in this medium as well; along with the overwhelming mass of "bland generic stuff" found everywhere in any medium.
 

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Chamale said:
If you're open minded and watch shows from many different countries, you'll find that you enjoy many different formats. It doesn't mean you're a strict anime fanboy, it means you're more open to other cultures.

Watches Darker than Black: Am I actually starting to ENJOY anime?
Watches Monty Python: Am I actually starting to ENJOY British comedy?
Watches Chilly Beach: Am I actually starting to ENJOY Canadian comedy*?
Watches Ong Bak II: Am I actually starting to ENJOY Thai action movies?

Be open minded and watch things from lots of places, not just your own language. I believe I've seen movies and TV shows produced on every continent except Antarctica (March of the Penguins was only filmed there).

*As a Canadian, I confess I actually have no idea if Chilly Beach is funny to non-Canadians.
Speaking of the Ong-Bak trilogy, I just finished those a couple weeks ago and damn it, were they good. Though the first one was the best. Still though, damn. Awesome style of movies. Speaking of good foreign films, you guys should check out District B13. Awesome French parkour/martial arts movie.

On topic, exposure means you'll experience a lot of what the world has to offer, and depending on your tastes you could end up liking a little bit of each country's movies and culture. I got started on anime with Toonami waaaaaay back in 1997, when Johnny Quest, Robotech and Sailor Moon were on there, and Motaro from Space Ghost was the host (forget Tom). After that was DBZ, and then Pokemon, and then I gradually grew from there.

Decum said:
Yeah, i sort of know what you mean, i got into anime like Pokemon and Naruto when i was younger but then i just kind of forgot about anime existing for a while, then one of my friends sent me an anime called "Shuffle!" at first when watching it i did as i do with EVERYTHING and started trying to guess what was going to happen in the end, it seemed like the normal old run of the mill anime setting, teenage guy surrounded by beautiful girls with tragic pasts and secrets, they all have a secret crush on him but then the main character just started not doing ANY of the stuff i expected him to, i honestly liked it a lot and started looking for more, if you liked Darker than Black you may like 11 Eyes, Higurashi, Bakemonogatari, Chaos;Head and Code Geass ,i thought they were pretty good.
Shuffle! has one of the best romances in it I've seen for a harem anime (shoujo? I don't know the term for those kinds). I was rooting for him to get with the green-haired girl, and he did! I was happy. :3

(Still not done! Novella anyone? I'm reading backwards, which is why my post is all wonky and edited.) On the topic of dubbing I have to say that Ghost in the Shell is some of the best dubbing I've ever seen in the states. I absolutely love the voices of Batou and the Major.