Am I the only one looking forward to New Vegas?

[Nbasa Whiteye]

Since I'm a bit older and played the first two parts in my late teens I can see the difference between f1, f2 and f3. Even though 1 and 2 were great (in my book not a lot of games are better) fallout 3 is a change in another direction which I think is a good direction. It's not better than 1 and 2 BUT for me the only reason why it wasn't better is because of the dialogs. I don't know, maybe I was more easily impressed when I was younger but as far as i can remember the dialog in fallout 1 and 2 was beautifully written and really pulled you in and defined the characters. Fallout 3 lacks a bit in that department but everything else is great imo. I will never get hung up on older titles and usually embrace every new thing that is introduced in the sequels.
oh yeah and to the original question yes I can't wait for New Vegas

 

[Slash Dementia]

I loved Fallout 3, but after about 3 months it started to wear off. It just got boring; the main storyline was bad (at least to me), the length was too short and it relied too much on side-quests which I found mostly boring after awhile.

Shooting was...not too great. I didn't like their shooting engine. Someone had told me that it was to be realistic, but I don't really care. I just didn't like it. V.A.T.S. was fun for awhile, but the novelty quickly wore off.

Since I started, I always felt the voice actors to be bad (like Oblivion), and their facial expressions were pretty emotionless. It was look going into a room with cardboard cutouts that have this voice box. That got worse once I got bored with it and actually began to notice it clearer.

I had no problem with the theme, I actually liked it, but theme alone isn't enough to make me buy Fallout New Vegas.

Sorry for the rant.

 

[ClaretPanda]

I'm really excited about new vegas, i didnt play the 1st two games so fallout 3 has been my only experiance in the fallout universe so that is what im use to

 

[Audio]

I wasnt impressed with Fallout 3. From what i saw in E3, it's the same stuff...almost looked like an addon pack to me. What is its main feature? gambling. yeah great :/

 

[captaincabbage]

Well I LOVE Fallout 3, why's everyone talking in the past tense? It's still here people!! XD

Anyway, I'm looking forward to New Vegas, mostly because of the setting, awesome new weapons and a lot of good gameplay tweaks (Fucking iron sights finally!) so I'll probably pick it up when I can, tho I'm really hoping for some damn updated graphics! Come on Bethesda! sure the game engine looked great when Oblivion came out, but damn it, that was four years ago!

As for FO3 haters out there, get the fuck over it! Seriously, so what if it's not the game you loved so much, if you do love it that much then go back to playing it and stop bitching to everyone else. Fallout 3 is still a great game in its own right, with some great visuals, gameplay and the deliciously cynical humour of the fallout series.

 

[Samus Aaron]

I don't understand why people don't like the idea of buying the same game in a different location. GTA3 did the exact same thing with liberty city, vice city, and san andreas, and all three ended up being amazing titles.

 

[Ken Sapp]

Yes I am definitely looking forward to FO3 New Vegas.

To address one of the points some people had against FO3. BoS had every right to be in DC based on the fact that they are a paramilitary organization descended from the US military which seeks out prewar tech. What better place to find tech than DC? You can dig military tech and designs out of the Pentagon, go to the Patent Office and dig out schematics and designs for everything ever patented in the US, and find an immeasurable wealth of information on any subject in the Library of Congress. And it is at least 150 years after the events of the original games, more than enough time to spread operations out from the West Coast to the East Coast.

Right, but what doesn't make any sense is the reason why they would send troops to across the country just so they MIGHT (no guarantees)find some decent tech, when they're struggling to even maintain the faction alone. Yeah, you're right that it makes sense for them to look for tech, but shooting yourself in the foot is not something they would seem to do, and realistically speaking, that what they would have done. So, in short, yes, they were just shoe-horned in.

And as I said in my post it is more than 150 years after the first games. The BoS had arrived in the DC Wasteland twenty years prior to your character exiting Vault 101 and that still leaves the better portion of a cantury for them to have expanded their numbers and spread across the continent. If you really want to find fault with the world design you should point your fingers at things like the lack of farming or any other sustainable infrastructure and a landscape which would be reasonable for a decade or two after the bombs fell but after two centuries realistically you would have green all over the place.

 

[Axolotl]

I heard they switched to a notoriously shoddy developer

Well they didn't. They switched to Obsidian.

 

[Mr.Kitetsu]

blah blah blah fallout 3 has been argued to death enough
i'm sick of it frankly it was similar to fallout 3
the people who are going to play it already preordered it(acknowledged it was more fallout 3)
and the people who said it was more of the same won't give a shit when its released
unless they actually enjoy being angry

I wasn't aware you had a beta version of the game and figured out it was the same.

if it is different then i will eat my own face
seriously though other than double the new weapons (e.g. grenade launcher machine gun,)
customizable weapons what did you see different? i mean totally different from fallout 3
unattainable from some custom made mods? that aren't already different. nothing new really
doesn't mean its going to be bad

Does the new Inventory system and leveling up screen count?

bah thats just micro management is it really going to be that radically different?
radically effect gameplay

Guess your right.

hope you don't mean that sarcastically

 

[Sexual Harassment Panda]

I heard they switched to a notoriously shoddy developer

Well they didn't. They switched to Obsidian.

Right...Google'd.

Some RPG's I've never played...and most recently...Alpha Protocol.

Fine if you like those games(although I was under the impression that both KOTOR and NWN went downhill after the original games, which according to wiki is when obsidian started developing those series).

I'm remaining apprehensive is all. I'd love to be proved wrong(I love Fallout 3)but I have a sneaking suspision that it's not going to be up to the same standard.

 

[Snowalker]

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And as I said in my post it is more than 150 years after the first games. The BoS had arrived in the DC Wasteland twenty years prior to your character exiting Vault 101 and that still leaves the better portion of a cantury for them to have expanded their numbers and spread across the continent. If you really want to find fault with the world design you should point your fingers at things like the lack of farming or any other sustainable infrastructure and a landscape which would be reasonable for a decade or two after the bombs fell but after two centuries realistically you would have green all over the place.

Well, first off, if they re established themselves, why aren't they being mention in New Vegas? Hell, if they gained that many numbers, they should almost damn well own the west coast. Also, why go to D.C. when it seems everyone is well aware of the commonwealths tech. Theres too many plot holes for it to make sense.

Also, the lack of farming is for one simple reason, have you noticed rain in the game?, no? It not just because the developers forgot, its because the climate has changed,

Quote from The Vault: "Around a week after the initial nuclear explosions, rain started to fall, however none of it was drinkable. The rain was black; tainted with soot, ash, radioactive elements produced by the nuclear explosions and various other contaminants produced by nuclear weapons. This rain marked the start of the terrible fallout that marked the true, permanent destruction caused by the Great War. The rain lasted four long days, killing thousands of species that had survived the initial destruction of the bombs, be they animal, plant or micro-organisms. Those few living things, human, animal or plant, that survived after the rain ended were left to live in the now barren Wastelands that had spread across the Earth, where nearly all pre-War plant life had died from the intense radiation produced by the fallout."

The way that sounds, if it were to rain in-game, it wouldn't be a good thing, it'd be "Oh fuck, get inside now, now... shit shit." kinda thing.

 

[fleischwolke]

I look forward to it, but the last garish preview clip left me strangely cold.

 

[CRAVE CASE 55]

New Vegas looks AMAZING! I already have the limited eddition paid off at gamestop so looks like im getting the Classic Pack

 

[Trikeen]

I'm completely pumped for Fallout New Vegas. So much so, that i plan on pre-ordering the collectors edition this weekend.

 

[Axolotl]

Some RPG's I've never played...and most recently...Alpha Protocol.

Fine if you like those games(although I was under the impression that both KOTOR and NWN went downhill after the original games, which according to wiki is when obsidian started developing those series).

Alot of fans of KoTOR consider the second superior in terms of story and writing, until the end becuse there is no ending because LuasArts forced them to release it to early. NWN2 was just bland there's no defending it but the expansion pack MotB was widely praised and is essentially the closest we've ever come to a successor to Planescape Torment. The other expansions have been underwhelming.

The key to understanding Obsidian is that they alternate between flawed masterpieces and bland rubbish. Given what I've heard about Alpha Protocol, Fallout New Vegas looks to have good odds.

Also they've gone from one of the worst writing teams in the industry to the best which is another plus.

 

[SultanP]

3rd Reason: Fallout 3 wasn't true to the original Fallouts(Fallout, Fallout 2, Fallout: Tactics), so how can New Vegas be true to it aswell? Well, personally, I feel that the main reason most people think Fallout 3 was true to the originals is because it was set in D.C., which should obviously feel different than California. Another reason is that is because it is in First Person, not overhead and that is real-time not turn-based. Well, I can understand enjoying turn-based gaming, but just because a game switch styles does not mean it becomes unfaithful. Just means its different from the old, which can sometimes be a good thing. As for why New Vegas can be faithful is simple, it is in Nevada, which means that it will have that West Coast feel. It'll have things that will have only been on the west coast, and reflect the old games more easily because they won't have to try to shoe-horn certain iconic factions into the game, because it would just make since for them to be there to begin with. (Also, BoS really shouldn't have been in Fallout 3, but thats a moot point.)

It's not just in the perspective and the combat system that it's unfaithful. Fallout 3 doesn't use the same sort of humour as Fallout 1 and 2... Heck, it hardly has any humour at all. It has much less in the way of freedom in the way you play the game, i.e. there isn't much to do if you aren't killing people. The SPECIAL system hardly had any significance on the game, it was almost all skill determined. They put children in it but you can't kill them, and not to mention Little Lamplight, where you could get stuck if you did it wrong. They butchered melee combat, and general complexity of combat. No knocking people unconscious, no blinding people, no disabling their gun arm so they couldn't use their weapon. You could blow the weapon out of their hands, but they could just pick it up again. No disabling people's legs completely, not groin shots, which was really useful in the first two games.

I think the problem is that they called it Fallout 3, it indicated that it was a follow-up to 1 and 2, and it made people expect something remotely similar. But that wasn't what they made. They could have called it something else, like Fallout New Vegas, and it wouldn't have been as much of a disappointment.

 

[SultanP]

Quote from The Vault: "Around a week after the initial nuclear explosions, rain started to fall, however none of it was drinkable. The rain was black; tainted with soot, ash, radioactive elements produced by the nuclear explosions and various other contaminants produced by nuclear weapons. This rain marked the start of the terrible fallout that marked the true, permanent destruction caused by the Great War. The rain lasted four long days, killing thousands of species that had survived the initial destruction of the bombs, be they animal, plant or micro-organisms. Those few living things, human, animal or plant, that survived after the rain ended were left to live in the now barren Wastelands that had spread across the Earth, where nearly all pre-War plant life had died from the intense radiation produced by the fallout."

The way that sounds, if it were to rain in-game, it wouldn't be a good thing, it'd be "Oh fuck, get inside now, now... shit shit." kinda thing.

That was just after the nuclear war. The games take place a long, long time after that. I'm fairly sure that since it's fairly safe to be outside, rain wouldn't be too horrible. At most it would be slightly radiated, like the water from the sea or lakes, but much less so, since there's less of it. Also, there were farms in Fallout 1 and 2, so why wouldn't there be in 3?