Am I the only one that thinks Halo:Reach sucks.

[ForensicYOYO]

What Ive learned is I dont like the early Halos but I enjoy this one and several of my Halo hating friends agree. To say this game sucks would mean you haven't played a really crapy game before. I hate MW2 but does the game suck? No. Its a well made game. There is nothing more pointless the to have all these threads were people want to state there reason, for a game that so many like, that the game sucks. If it weren't for are CoD, Halos, and Gears then we would be stuck with half ass games with no big budget. So quit ur bitching.

 

[DTWolfwood]

its halo. Thats all there is to it. As Erin [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/comics/critical-miss/8138-Critical-Miss-37] points out its more or less the same slop you've been playing since Halo3 but prettier on the eyes.

I certainly have no misconception that its the end all be all in videogames but man does it have a loyal fan following. The money its raking in isnt something to laugh at either. Is it a 9.3 [http://www.gametrailers.com/game/halo-reach/11394] hell no. In terms of what it really is. I'd give it a solid 8.

What Ive learned is I dont like the early Halos but I enjoy this one and several of my Halo hating friends agree. To say this game sucks would mean you haven't played a really crapy game before. I hate MW2 but does the game suck? No. Its a well made game. There is nothing more pointless the to have all these threads were people want to state there reason, for a game that so many like, that the game sucks. If it weren't for are CoD, Halos, and Gears then we would be stuck with half ass games with no big budget. So quit ur bitching.

sorry to interject, but Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare was a well made lengthier game. MW2 is just a shitty more ridiculous copy. But everything else ^-^ b

 

[AngryPuppy]

NO YOU ARE NOT THE ONLY ONE!

/Rant

If you don't like it fine. Just don't come to forums complaining about it cause those who do enjoy it don't want to hear it.

Then don't read or comment on the posts. It's pretty simple really.

OT: No your not, but then again I've disliked most all the Halo games.

 

[WOPR]

in my opinion whole halo series sucks, so no

Agreed, it's horribly over-exaggerated what it IS is "standard" not good not bad just average... but hey to todays gamers the only videogames on the face of the earth are Halo, Call of Duty, Left 4 Dead, Guitar Hero, and Rock Band... for the most part.

It's pretty sad really, they're only hurting themselves to by being close minded about other games.

 

[Veldt Falsetto]

Maybe you are.

It doesnt suck
It just isn't that good.
It has plenty of faults that other games of the same genre don't
It even has as many faults as Halo 3 does, just in different areas.
The main reason people like it is that as far as being a fun game is concerned, they've succeeded.

It doesn't have the best single player experience.
It isn't a work of art.
It isn't even technically a great game.

BUT it is fun, it's fun with friends, if any of your friends have the game, play online with them sometime, you'll have a blast. If not then maybe online FPS isn't for you, some people dislike the genre, that's all.

 

[ForensicYOYO]

To whom it may concern, the above was snipped

I'm not disagreeing with you, by no means do I think that halo is a great or flawless or even very good game. I just think it's fun in multiplayer (similarly blobby volley is fun in multiplayer). Also, coop campaign is as stated by the OP really confusing and quite frankly not fun in reach (it was in halo 3 IMO).

I understand what you mean, but you're just settling. We should demand that the games we buy be good all around, instead of tailored to one individual aspect.

If designers are going to make a game so heavily oriented toward multiplayer, I am of the opinion that they should just make a multiplayer only game, (I believe Shattered Horizon is an example of this).

But people love to have options. Thats what makes the replay value. If you only have campaign or just multiplayer then its lasting appeal will ware.

 

[subtlefuge]

To whom it may concern, the above was snipped

I'm not disagreeing with you, by no means do I think that halo is a great or flawless or even very good game. I just think it's fun in multiplayer (similarly blobby volley is fun in multiplayer). Also, coop campaign is as stated by the OP really confusing and quite frankly not fun in reach (it was in halo 3 IMO).

I understand what you mean, but you're just settling. We should demand that the games we buy be good all around, instead of tailored to one individual aspect.

If designers are going to make a game so heavily oriented toward multiplayer, I am of the opinion that they should just make a multiplayer only game, (I believe Shattered Horizon is an example of this).

But people love to have options. Thats what makes the replay value. If you only have campaign or just multiplayer then its lasting appeal will ware.

Correction, good gameplay makes for replay value (see Team Fortress 2). I have no real interest in disputing Halo's quality on a low quality thread, but you definitely don't have to tack on a campaign to make a game replayable. I know many who have yet to play the campaign on Reach and probably never will.

 

[ForensicYOYO]

in my opinion whole halo series sucks, so no

Agreed, it's horribly over-exaggerated what it IS is "standard" not good not bad just average... but hey to todays gamers the only videogames on the face of the earth are Halo, Call of Duty, Left 4 Dead, Guitar Hero, and Rock Band... for the most part.

It's pretty sad really, they're only hurting themselves to by being close minded about other games.

If they are happy with these games then they're are not hurting themselves. I think what you ment to get at is that If they don't open themselves up to other maybe not well know but great games then we the people who do look for those games will see less and less do to the fact that the money makers are the big name games.

 

[Kelorin]

You're not the only one.

I thought it was pretty good.

To everyone that stated that its just another Halo clone with no new features.
AHEM:
- Jetpacks
- Holographic Decoys, Sprint, Armor Lock, and Active Camo armor abilities
- STARFIGHTERS
- Civilians (new for a Halo game at least)

And that's just the campaign.

 

[Poopie McGhee]

#1 rule of the internet : You are never alone on the internet. Someone would agree with you if you stated that Hitler didn't have a moustache.

But he didn't... Haha...

 

[ForensicYOYO]

But people love to have options. Thats what makes the replay value. If you only have campaign or just mul.

I ran out of room and I dont know how to fix it.
Anyway its true there are people who do just play multiplayer but not everyone just want that. It make it friendlier to those who want other options.

 

[GuerrillaClock]

Ah, the old '(x) is generic' argument. A cop-out, blanket criticism that requires no thought to construct and can be applied to anything if you want to seem edgy.

<quote=Gerald McTwatbag>Shadow of the Colossus is generic. The monsters aren't as memorable as people make out. It's boring.

See how easy that was? Now, I certainly don't believe that, but I bet I could make a thread about it and start a flamewar if I wanted.

Anyway, Reach is not generic, and certainly does not suck, for any one of the billion features crammed onto the disc would justify a standalone release, and so to have them all polished to the nth degree and put in one package is a deal of Orange Box proportions. Seriously, I'm not going to go into detail making an argument as to why the OP is wrong until he comes up with a better argument than "it's generic", because that is utterly meaningless, and several of your other arguments regarding a lack of memorable battles and other such things are flat out wrong. Sorry, I know, opinions and whatnot, but you're wrong. Have you played Lone Wolf? This goes down as a troll thread until proven otherwise.

 

[Caligulove]

You're on the Internet.

You're NEVER the only one, on any subject

SHUT THE FUCK UP!!
we have all established that "am I the only one?" is a bad choice of words but its just a quick way of saying it and saying "who else thinks" is just inviting fanboys
to be honest the only bad things about "am I the only one?" threads are the tons of fuckskulls who think they need to mention it after about 40 comments of it already

its just a figure of speech, shut up

Whoa. Easy, man.

I'm sorry if you've gotten a ton of those responses already, but there's no need to get hostile over it- meant no scorn or even patronage.
You're here to, basically, talk about the flaws of Halo: Reach that didn't live up to your expectations from the series, and that's great- good to discuss the tropes and the things we'd like to see less of, good to get those things out there and known so we can try to see things change, for the better when we think they're starting to stagnate.

My own opinion, is that Halo hasn't really changed their Campaign since the first game, definitely sticking to what they know works.

At the same time, though, you have to admit that rhetorical questions like 'am I the only one ____' also get rhetorical answers. Sometimes the majority of said answers will be like that- and so, in the same way that you want to talk about the things that are stagnate and repetitious (or cloned, as you put it) in something like the Halo series- so too would I like to talk about the repetitious nature of the way that criticism is presented to others. Quality discussion and criticism tries to get a hint of originality and something to bring the person in and think about, and then reply- instead of the same answer to question's they've heard before, presented in a way that's not new at all. Which I am guilty of.

Don't tell those that respond (no matter what they say) to 'shut the fuck up' though. It will only further make someone not want to take whatever you have to say seriously. A lot of people have the same view as you, and like to discuss those things, even if there isn't much controversy or disagreement. If it really bothers you that much to hear something over and over, though, pay it no mind and move on to those that you think you can discuss with- don't escalate things to an air of hostility, though- which again, I'm sorry if you thought I was being scornful or anything.

 

[Broken Orange]

-snippy-

I think you just proved that people who havent played the game DO have an opinion

uh...thank you?

 

[TheEndlessSleep]

-snippy-

I think you just proved that people who havent played the game DO have an opinion

uh...thank you?

I've confused you read the first part of the thread poster's first comment and you'll get it.

 

[subtlefuge]

But people love to have options. Thats what makes the replay value. If you only have campaign or just mul.

I ran out of room and I dont know how to fix it.
Anyway its true there are people who do just play multiplayer but not everyone just want that. It make it friendlier to those who want other options.

I have no idea what just happened, because i never said what that quote said that i said (little confused right now).

 

[Hades74]

in my opinion whole halo series sucks, so no

Agreed, it's horribly over-exaggerated what it IS is "standard" not good not bad just average... but hey to todays gamers the only videogames on the face of the earth are Halo, Call of Duty, Left 4 Dead, Guitar Hero, and Rock Band... for the most part.

It's pretty sad really, they're only hurting themselves to by being close minded about other games.

Is it me or does this guy sound like non-crazy Yahtzee?

 

[WOPR]

in my opinion whole halo series sucks, so no

Agreed, it's horribly over-exaggerated what it IS is "standard" not good not bad just average... but hey to todays gamers the only videogames on the face of the earth are Halo, Call of Duty, Left 4 Dead, Guitar Hero, and Rock Band... for the most part.

It's pretty sad really, they're only hurting themselves to by being close minded about other games.

Is it me or does this guy sound like non-crazy Yahtzee?

I've been called that on so many occasions, honestly, I thought like this for a long time and would go on and on and on about games and then people started yelling at me that I was quoting yahtzee, so out of curiocity I looked online was watching his reviews and thought "OH MY GOD!!! So this is what I would sound like if I swore!"

So long story short, I've been called a Swear-free non-crazy Yahtzee sence before I even knew who he was...

still drives me mad when people won't listen to my opinion on something then when yahtzee says the same thing in a review they'll listen to him...

 

[Hades74]

in my opinion whole halo series sucks, so no

Agreed, it's horribly over-exaggerated what it IS is "standard" not good not bad just average... but hey to todays gamers the only videogames on the face of the earth are Halo, Call of Duty, Left 4 Dead, Guitar Hero, and Rock Band... for the most part.

It's pretty sad really, they're only hurting themselves to by being close minded about other games.

Is it me or does this guy sound like non-crazy Yahtzee?

I've been called that on so many occasions, honestly, I thought like this for a long time and would go on and on and on about games and then people started yelling at me that I was quoting yahtzee, so out of curiocity I looked online was watching his reviews and thought "OH MY GOD!!! So this is what I would sound like if I swore!"

So long story short, I've been called a Swear-free non-crazy Yahtzee sence before I even knew who he was...

still drives me mad when people won't listen to my opinion on something then when yahtzee says the same thing in a review they'll listen to him...

well i think that they mistake you for someone who just re-states what he said thus making the argument seem less meaningful