Am i the only one who cares that New Vegas looks EXACTLY like Fallout 3?

[salinv]

Even if the graphics are bad, that is why you get it on PC, let the modding community have some time with it (and if the game is at all good, they'll go at it), and they'll have hi-res texture packs before too long.

Anyways, all sequels are going to look like their originator. IMHO - FO3 was a great game, and if New Vegas is at all like it, I don't care if it looks the same. It'll be a different wasteland to explore, the majority of the same mechanics are going to be the same, and the additions in terms of weapons and addons and such will be a nice, new thing to try out. Anyways, I want to try out hard core mode.

 

[Apollomasque]

Hey man, I know what you mean.
Like, New Vegas is exactly like Fallout 3 except with some changes.
You know like how God of War 3 is like God of War 2 except for some changes.
Or you know, how Super Mario Galaxy 2 is like Super Mario Galaxy with some changes.
Or how Halo 3 is like Halo 2 with some changes
Wait a minute... did anyone notice how sequels are a lot like the originals, but just WITH SOME CHANGES?
Holy crap guys, this is big.

 

[pedobearlongcatlazor]

It's not being made by Bethesda, and I agree with what you said. It does look the exact same, which means it's shit, so no buy for me.

im still gonna buy it but its a shame that its not being made by bethesda which makes it worse than fallout 3 which is kind of a heartbreak

 

[BiscuitTrouser]

http://www.gametrailers.com/game/fallout-new-vegas/11183

Scroll down a little, there's a developer walkthrough from E3 2010. From the gameplay I've seen, it doesn't look all that different. I didn't like the combat from Fallout 3, VATS just seemed like a poor way to cover up the awful shooting mechanics, and I didn't appreciate the game playing itself for me. I wanted to shoot shit, I didn't want to click "tactical" parts of their body and watch a shitty little cutscene for every enemy encounter. It was an immersion breaker, from what I've seen they've done little to address this in New Vegas other than adding iron sights, the non VATS gameplay looks exactly the same; broken. What I enjoyed most about Fallout 3 was roaming the Wasteland and exploring various places, but with combat being such a big part of the game, I was constantly forced to go through the monotony of F3's combat. An FPS where enemy encounters are dreaded and I find myself not wanting to shoot the gun because it handles like a floppy dick? Yeah.. I got bored of F3 pretty quick. As for characters and story, I skipped the dialogue for every NPC because it was boring. I wouldn't be buying New Vegas for the characters, and I assume by "stuff" you mean story, background, quests etc, for which the same rule applies.

What's this about COD? You assume that because I dislike Fallout 3 and I'm not buying New Vegas I'm some kind of COD fanboy? I don't even like COD so please shut the fuck up.. if I didn't like F3, I'm not gonna buy a glorified expansion of it that fails to address the problems I had with the first, am I?

I didnt say anywhere you were a cod fanboy, i have no idea where you got this. Cod was a game that while looking very similar managed to improve some other parts of gameplay (the same parts as fallout) and come out to be a better game for it. That was my example of a similar situation. Your first comment gave me the impression you like the first fallout but didnt want this one also because of the fact it looked the same. You failed to mention you hated the core gameplay mechanics as well leading me to believe you disliked the game souly on the way it looks. This annoyed me because it came across as a bit presumptuous. Im sorry for the misunderstanding, after writing that i did chide myself for writing rather patronisingly.

 

[jowo96]

I guess it depends what you're looking for in a sequel. I don't see the issue when its more of something awesome. But yes it should have improvements and I'm pretty sure it does.

 

[rembrandtqeinstein]

Despite all the 90s greats associated with it Obsidian has, shall we say, a track record of producing promising yet severely flawed products.

I'll wait for the reviews and user consensus before I get this one.

 

[Therumancer]

The game is using the same engine as Fallout 3 and Oblivion so of course it looks pretty much the same. We pretty much knew this from the very beginning. It is however using some differant art work (the super mutants are apparently going to look differant), more character models, and apparently tweaks the way the game plays.

Basically the game is a sequel in the truest sense, more of the same so to speak, rather than them radically re-inventing the wheel like some games like "Mass Effect 2" did. Fallout 3 worked perfectly for what it was trying to do, and this is simply an extension of that.

It's too large in scope to be considered DLC, and also follows a differant playstyle, more akin to the older Fallout games. That is to say that it is going to put greater empathis on your SPECIAL stats as opposed to simply your skill levels (according to some things I've read) and make it more difficult to "polymath" the game. As DLC or an expansion pack for "Fallout 3" this change in concept would probably have upset a lot of people who built their characters specifically for the way FO3 worked, only to find that the "rules" have changed. As an example in Fallout 3 you could pretty much drop your charisma down to '1' and build up massive speech skills and succeed at pretty much all of the social challenges in the game. In New Vegas apparently to do a lot of things socially and even have certain options your liable to need both a high base charisma, and a high speech skill.

Then on top of this they did seem to mention having radically re-done the melee system to make it more practical. Even adding special finishers and such to the VATS attacks for various weapons. I believe they mentioned one called "FORE!" for golf clubs.

I'm really looking forward to "New Vegas", and it's cool if people disagree with me, I'm just saying that I don't think what we've seen so far is bad. I mean while on a similar level to "Fallout 3" it's not like someone is producing ugly 10 year old graphics for full price, sure they are a couple of years old but are still pretty good, and functional for what they are intended to do. I think anyone who is going to be screaming "OMG this is so retro and ugly looking that it makes my eyes trained to modern pretty graphics literally bleed!" over this unless they have a serious problem.

I don't think this game will win any praise as a technical marvel, going head to head with the latest bleeding edge graphics, but I don't think serious critics are going to be insulting it either by saying that it looks like something cranked out for the fledgeling PS-2 and acting all insulted over it being sold for full price. ;P

 

[Theron Julius]

What happened to expansion packs? Now they have to release full price games with half the content to expand on one game.

 

[Assassin Xaero]

I don't care, I just wanted Fallout 3 to be longer, and there it is... Plus, I haven't seen Halo Reach or ODST, but I bet they look exactly like Halo 3, which looks exactly like Halo 2, which looks exactly like Halo CE... There is more to a game then just looks, but looks are a plus...

Really? I thought Halo 2 looked better than CE, and ODST looks similar to Halo 3, but there's some improvements. According to Bungie, they hit every aspect of Halo's engine to make sure that Reach looks better than its predecessors.

I don't have a 360 so haven't seen ODST at all (played Halo 3 at a friend's house), but I heard the multiplayer was just copied from Halo 3 even. I did have CE on PC and 2 on Xbox, dunno if that made any difference graphics wise...

Anyway, Fallout New Vegas is pissing me off... I still have to wait a few months for my collectors edition to come...

 

[Chrinik]

To answer the threadtitle:
Yes, you probably are.
Graphics don´t mean SHIT to me...I could be thrilled by a 16 bit FLASHGAME if it is exeptionally thrilling.
Damn just look at "Limbo" for example<.<
What´s the problem with using the same grafics engine for a sequel, it saves both TIME and MONEY that can then be used to tinetune the game and build in gadgets and NOT make it look like random action RPG #4165.
I mean, it´s got upgradeable weapons...as in, adding scopes and shit.
I always love those...

 

[Rattler5150]

both games are using the same engine, so they will look the same.
Just small interface changes

 

[Zeromaeus]

The reason it looks similar is that they used the same engine to create it. Thats pretty much where the similarities end. Yes the map will be large and open with some scattered cities kind of like fallout 3 or more accuratly like the area surrounding vegas actually is.

As for the dlc comment its very rare to have dlc the size of new vegas. All of oblivions, fallout 3s, & dragon ages dlc combined would still be smaller then this game is. People see the same graphics and say oh this is just like some dlc but more expensive. Except its not its a completely new fucking game. It doenst just give you new weapons and locations. It gives you a new game with new weapons, locations, enemies, side quests, main story, etc. Kind of like you know what any sequal gives you minus the graphics update.

If they had used the same engine for gta4 as san andreas would you have comlained that it should have been an expansion and not a new game? Did people complain halo 2 should just have been a halo 1 expansion? No they didnt because its a completely new fucking game just like this is.

This guy says it pretty well.
Its an entirely new game that'll play similarly to Fallout 3. Why? Its the sequel to Fallout 3, that's why.

 

[MiracleOfSound]

Firstly, no. They are the peoepl who made fallout 2 not fallout 1. Secondly, they have said they are changing these things in one interview but i would like to actually have proof of these changes. When Obsidian say they are doing something i need physical evidence of that nowadays. Their reputation for unfinished products is overwhelming.

Wow, you really don't trust Obsidian. I guess we'll both just have to wait and see whether they deliver on their promises.

I have a good feeling about New Vegas and I'm hoping it gives us the best parts of both worldss, the story and humour from the oldies and the gameplay from F3.

 

[Funkiest Monkey]

Seriously, i haven't heard any previewer say that he or she thinks it looks exactly like Fallout 3. All it gives you is some new weapons and locations. You could do that in a dlc and get the exact same result! [See The Pit and Point Lookout].

There are also the following changes:

New play mechanics (improved shooting, aim down sights, third person view changed, follower system updated, special VATS attacks)

Different currencies and karma systems for each faction - an approve/disapprove system

A completely different vibe (Vegas was not hit by nukes and is still in good shape)

An entire new map the size of the capital wasteland

Gambling on the strip

Hardcore mode

More quests than Fallout 3

What else is it you want? It's a Fallout game, of course it's going to be similar.

You forgot to say "/thread".

OT: I cannot wait for this game, I don't care if it looks similar. It's a sequel... It should be similar.

 

[MiracleOfSound]

Yeah, that's what I am getting sucked out of the immersion constantly. Prince of Persia, the cell-shaded graphics one, I totally loved it. You know why? The graphics and the animation. I am a SUCKER for these animations.

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Pity the gameplay was fucking horrible. Perfect example of style over substance, that game. Too much focus on graphics and not enough on good gameplay.

 

[generalskaar]

Fallout 3 was already a very good game. So I think just some minor changes would be alright. I don't see why you have to revolutionize a game for the sequel. Like Halo for example. It hardly changed at all and people still seemed to like it. And if you don't like halo I'm sure there's another example in some other series you like.

 

[MiracleOfSound]

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noone makes that complaint because those 2 games were absolutely phenomenal in gameplay. To the point where you can't mention those 2 games and the new 3rd one in the same breath or same sentence. they are in completely different tiers of gameplay quality.

Well, that's your opinion.

I prefer the gamplay in Fallout 3 by far, but I like the dialogue better in the first two.