America vs EU?

[Shycte]

There is new powers growing and one would be foolish to stay outside in the rain once the party starts if you know what I mean.

What power? What party? What are you talking about?

Not a political party mind you, more of a you know... having fun kind a party? It was a metafor, don't worry bout' it.

As for power, the European Union is growing stronger and more efficent, just need some tuning and it'll run like a Mustang. There is a need for a union like EU, some thing countries can't solve by themself, and something countries won't solve by themself.

 

[DazBurger]

USA has also the highest annual murder rate in the world with about 11,000 deaths. In comparison, the 2nd highest annual murder rate is Germany, with 60 to 80. This alone is reason enough to never set foot in that hell hole.

Two out of three of those countries has a higher suicide rate than the U.S. The third is a mere 2 spots behind. I wonder what that says about those countries? Hum...

Can you please link your source?

Wakka wakka!

Thank you for linking your source, but how do you know that Angryman used that source? and that list isn't really fair imo since the data from USA was done during 2005 but sweden&denmark was 2006 and Finlands data was from 2007.

I'd worry more about changing the Scandinavian culture of suffocating all unpleasant emotions than on currency of data.

Why would you not want to get rid of something unpleasant?

 

[Angryman101]

Not to mention that it is from Wikipedia. I could change that article if I wanted.

For roughly 10 seconds before the busy-body, fascist mods come and change it back and ban your IP from making any more changes, lol.
A two year difference does not make that much of a difference, guy. Especially since 2007 was a better year, economically speaking, than 2005, which means that suicides most likely would have been lower.

Can you link your source again, dude.

/Sigh.
http://chartsbin.com/view/prm
That one actually ranks Denmark higher than the U.S., too.
http://www.who.int/mental_health/prevention/suicide_rates/en/
http://fathersforlife.org/health/who_suicide_rates.htm
There.

 

[MrTub]

USA has also the highest annual murder rate in the world with about 11,000 deaths. In comparison, the 2nd highest annual murder rate is Germany, with 60 to 80. This alone is reason enough to never set foot in that hell hole.

Two out of three of those countries has a higher suicide rate than the U.S. The third is a mere 2 spots behind. I wonder what that says about those countries? Hum...

Can you please link your source?

Wakka wakka!

Thank you for linking your source, but how do you know that Angryman used that source? and that list isn't really fair imo since the data from USA was done during 2005 but sweden&denmark was 2006 and Finlands data was from 2007.

I'd worry more about changing the Scandinavian culture of suffocating all unpleasant emotions than on currency of data.

What do you mean by suffocating all our unpleasant emotions?

I mean bottling up all the negative emotions because they might hurt someone's feelings. The same stuff you guys exported to Minnesota way back when.

So you're saying its better to not care if you hurt somebodys feeling?

 

[MrTub]

Not to mention that it is from Wikipedia. I could change that article if I wanted.

For roughly 10 seconds before the busy-body, fascist mods come and change it back and ban your IP from making any more changes, lol.
A two year difference does not make that much of a difference, guy. Especially since 2007 was a better year, economically speaking, than 2005, which means that suicides most likely would have been lower.

Can you link your source again, dude.

/Sigh.
http://chartsbin.com/view/prm
That one actually ranks Denmark higher than the U.S., too.
http://www.who.int/mental_health/prevention/suicide_rates/en/
http://fathersforlife.org/health/who_suicide_rates.htm
There.

May I ask what that has to do with "Especially since 2007 was a better year, economically speaking, than 2005,"?

 

[Dr. Whiggs]

USA has also the highest annual murder rate in the world with about 11,000 deaths. In comparison, the 2nd highest annual murder rate is Germany, with 60 to 80. This alone is reason enough to never set foot in that hell hole.

Two out of three of those countries has a higher suicide rate than the U.S. The third is a mere 2 spots behind. I wonder what that says about those countries? Hum...

Can you please link your source?

Wakka wakka!

Thank you for linking your source, but how do you know that Angryman used that source? and that list isn't really fair imo since the data from USA was done during 2005 but sweden&denmark was 2006 and Finlands data was from 2007.

I'd worry more about changing the Scandinavian culture of suffocating all unpleasant emotions than on currency of data.

What do you mean by suffocating all our unpleasant emotions?

I mean bottling up all the negative emotions because they might hurt someone's feelings. The same stuff you guys exported to Minnesota way back when.

So you're saying its better to not care if you hurt somebodys feeling?

It's not about not caring, it's about a paralyzing fear that society will implode if people have any mentality beyond bland pleasantness.

 

[MrTub]

USA has also the highest annual murder rate in the world with about 11,000 deaths. In comparison, the 2nd highest annual murder rate is Germany, with 60 to 80. This alone is reason enough to never set foot in that hell hole.

Two out of three of those countries has a higher suicide rate than the U.S. The third is a mere 2 spots behind. I wonder what that says about those countries? Hum...

Can you please link your source?

Wakka wakka!

Thank you for linking your source, but how do you know that Angryman used that source? and that list isn't really fair imo since the data from USA was done during 2005 but sweden&denmark was 2006 and Finlands data was from 2007.

I'd worry more about changing the Scandinavian culture of suffocating all unpleasant emotions than on currency of data.

What do you mean by suffocating all our unpleasant emotions?

I mean bottling up all the negative emotions because they might hurt someone's feelings. The same stuff you guys exported to Minnesota way back when.

So you're saying its better to not care if you hurt somebodys feeling?

It's not about not caring, it's about a paralyzing fear that society will implode if people have any mentality beyond bland pleasantness.

May I ask where have you read that? Cause that doesn't really sound anything like Stockholm, sweden atleast..

 

[Angryman101]

Not to mention that it is from Wikipedia. I could change that article if I wanted.

For roughly 10 seconds before the busy-body, fascist mods come and change it back and ban your IP from making any more changes, lol.
A two year difference does not make that much of a difference, guy. Especially since 2007 was a better year, economically speaking, than 2005, which means that suicides most likely would have been lower.

Can you link your source again, dude.

/Sigh.
http://chartsbin.com/view/prm
That one actually ranks Denmark higher than the U.S., too.
http://www.who.int/mental_health/prevention/suicide_rates/en/
http://fathersforlife.org/health/who_suicide_rates.htm
There.

May I ask what that has to do with "Especially since 2007 was a better year, economically speaking, than 2005,"?

What? Literally every carefully optated and implemented letter in that post is dripping with relevancy towards that particular topic, guy.

 

[Angryman101]

oops, double post.

 

[Dr. Whiggs]

USA has also the highest annual murder rate in the world with about 11,000 deaths. In comparison, the 2nd highest annual murder rate is Germany, with 60 to 80. This alone is reason enough to never set foot in that hell hole.

Two out of three of those countries has a higher suicide rate than the U.S. The third is a mere 2 spots behind. I wonder what that says about those countries? Hum...

Can you please link your source?

Wakka wakka!

Thank you for linking your source, but how do you know that Angryman used that source? and that list isn't really fair imo since the data from USA was done during 2005 but sweden&denmark was 2006 and Finlands data was from 2007.

I'd worry more about changing the Scandinavian culture of suffocating all unpleasant emotions than on currency of data.

What do you mean by suffocating all our unpleasant emotions?

I mean bottling up all the negative emotions because they might hurt someone's feelings. The same stuff you guys exported to Minnesota way back when.

So you're saying its better to not care if you hurt somebodys feeling?

It's not about not caring, it's about a paralyzing fear that society will implode if people have any mentality beyond bland pleasantness.

May I ask where have you read that? Cause that doesn't really sound anything like Stockholm, sweden atleast..

Personal experience, not submittable as an academic paper. Conversations with Scandinavians.

 

[Nickolai77]

joining the EU would give Iceland more political power because, with Iceland being represented on the EU council, and with Icelanders in the Commission and Parliament, Iceland will have a say on legislation which effects Iceland.

LOL!

Have you any idea how much power Iceland would have when it comes to decision making within the EU?

1% out of hundred.

No, that isn't even a fake statistic. Google it if you want to.

EDIT: Actually, it is possible that it might be slightly higher, something like 1-5% out of hundred, but it would still make our voice in the EU laughably irelevant.

That's the countries voting weight on the EU council. To put that into perspective, Ireland has a 0.9% voting weight, Estonia has a 0.3% voting weight and Finland has 1.1%. Whilst the bigger countries like France, Britain and Germany have 12%, 12.4% and 16.5% respectively. Iceland isn't far behind the typical voting weights of the Baltic States.

Further more, there would be Icelanders in the EU commission and the EU parliament, all of which can work on influencing the EU. Individually, Iceland doesn't have that much power, but no EU country, bar perhaps the Big 3, has much individual power anyway. But by working together with other states of similar concerns and interests, Icelandic citizens can influence the EU.

As i said to another poster, it's better having some power than none at all.

 

[Shycte]

USA has also the highest annual murder rate in the world with about 11,000 deaths. In comparison, the 2nd highest annual murder rate is Germany, with 60 to 80. This alone is reason enough to never set foot in that hell hole.

Two out of three of those countries has a higher suicide rate than the U.S. The third is a mere 2 spots behind. I wonder what that says about those countries? Hum...

Can you please link your source?

Wakka wakka!

Thank you for linking your source, but how do you know that Angryman used that source? and that list isn't really fair imo since the data from USA was done during 2005 but sweden&denmark was 2006 and Finlands data was from 2007.

I'd worry more about changing the Scandinavian culture of suffocating all unpleasant emotions than on currency of data.

More like suffocating in social security and universal healthcare.

I guess universal healthcare can't cure slitting your wrists in the tub!

Maybe not, but our mothers don't have to watch their babies die because they couldn't afford to take them to the hospital, because they didn't have an insurence of some shit.

Healthcare is for everyone, always.

 

[Nikokvaj]

What? How is 1/27 not bad? Please explain this to me.

Because you would have just as much of a say as any other country.

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This is sort of missing the point to put it very mildly. The reason for decision power of only 1/27 or less is laughably stupid isn't because its less then what the other countries have, but because its only a decision power of fucking 1/27 and thus an extremely small amount.

It is a relatively high amount in comparison to the population of Iceland.

Your entire logic seems to be based on the rather anti consensual notion that the needs of Iceland are somehow contrary to the needs of the entire Union, which I find absurd, hysterical, paranoid and ungrounded. Besides, Iceland is already a member of the EU Free Market, the Schengen borderless agreement and mostly goes in line with the EU foreign policy, in other words, your country is subject to whatever the EU's decides whether you are a member or not. Wouldn't it be smarter to join the Union and have a say at least?

This isn't some fictional scenario, it's how it works. States with a common interest in stopping a law can do so, as long as there is four of them.

And what 3 other countries, are going to help Iceland if we need their help? Please tell me and back up your argument for why any of the countries on the European mainland should stick their necks out for a tiny island nation in the middle of the Atlantic to which they have very little in common with and probably don't give a shit about?

You talk about the EU like it is some sort of a nice club full of friends where people with common issues unselfishly aid one another in times of hardship. The EU is a political entity, and nobody gives anything away for free in politics.

Name one issue in modern politics that the EU deals with where Iceland would have a thoroughly unique standpoint, I doubt you could find one.

 

[Dr. Whiggs]

USA has also the highest annual murder rate in the world with about 11,000 deaths. In comparison, the 2nd highest annual murder rate is Germany, with 60 to 80. This alone is reason enough to never set foot in that hell hole.

Two out of three of those countries has a higher suicide rate than the U.S. The third is a mere 2 spots behind. I wonder what that says about those countries? Hum...

Can you please link your source?

Wakka wakka!

Thank you for linking your source, but how do you know that Angryman used that source? and that list isn't really fair imo since the data from USA was done during 2005 but sweden&denmark was 2006 and Finlands data was from 2007.

I'd worry more about changing the Scandinavian culture of suffocating all unpleasant emotions than on currency of data.

More like suffocating in social security and universal healthcare.

I guess universal healthcare can't cure slitting your wrists in the tub!

Maybe not, but our mothers don't have to watch their babies die because they couldn't afford to take them to the hospital, because they didn't have an insurence of some shit.

Healthcare is for everyone, always.

Neither do ours, emergency rooms cannot deny treatment by law.

Also, nobody's healthcare is perfect.

 

[MrTub]

Not to mention that it is from Wikipedia. I could change that article if I wanted.

For roughly 10 seconds before the busy-body, fascist mods come and change it back and ban your IP from making any more changes, lol.
A two year difference does not make that much of a difference, guy. Especially since 2007 was a better year, economically speaking, than 2005, which means that suicides most likely would have been lower.

Can you link your source again, dude.

/Sigh.
http://chartsbin.com/view/prm
That one actually ranks Denmark higher than the U.S., too.
http://www.who.int/mental_health/prevention/suicide_rates/en/
http://fathersforlife.org/health/who_suicide_rates.htm
There.

May I ask what that has to do with "Especially since 2007 was a better year, economically speaking, than 2005,"?

What? Literally every carefully optated and implemented letter in that post is dripping with relevancy towards that particular topic, guy.

All I can find on those links are suicide rates and that wasn't what I wasn't what I asked you to link.I was asking you to post links to that shows that 2007 was a better year economically speaking, than 2005. homedoggy G

 

[Angryman101]

I don't know where you all are coming up with this shit, Scandinavia is pretty open on traditional taboo topics (at least Norway is) but then again Norway used to pillage Ireland and France for fun

I'm not saying the Scandinavian countries aren't awesome, but your implied not that they're superior to the U.S. due to your baseless prejudices are something I cannot take lying down. I love America, even if some parts of it are really shitty (god DAMNED tea party fuckers), that's how every country is.

 

[Snake Plissken]

Really, do you write this kind of thing at every small jibe that gets made?

Not everything, just the things I hold dear. Are you this snide to everyone who honestly can't tell whether you're trying to make a joke or just ignorant? Some context surrounding your original response would be nice. You obviously knew that people would confront you about a response that was as volatile as it was when there was nothing to back up the claim. But point taken; it was meant as a joke.