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All I can find on those links are suicide rates and that wasn't what I wasn't what I asked you to link.I was asking you to post links to that shows that 2007 was a better year economically speaking, than 2005. homedoggy G
Yeah, I got it the first time, homie G funkmonkey, I was being farcical. It's from memory; there was an economic downturn in the mid 2000's. I don't feel like looking up sources, chief.
 

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Nickolai77 said:
Further more, there would be Icelanders in the EU commission and the EU parliament, all of which can work on influencing the EU. Individually, Iceland doesn't have that much power, but no EU country, bar perhaps the Big 3, has much individual power anyway. But by working together with other states of similar concerns and interests, Icelandic citizens can influence the EU.
WHICH COUNTRIES EXACTLY!!!!!

People just talk about how Iceland could theoretically work together on "common issues" with other similar countries but nobody has bothered to tell me who the fuck we are suppose to work with on "our common interests and issues" with within the EU in case we join.
This depends entirely on the issue.

Say a law is being passed, decreasing fishing quotas thus threatening to damage the Icelandic fishing industry.

In this case, you could team up with other major fishing countries, say, Spain, Portugal, Cyprus, Malta, Greece and Italy in order to bring down the proposal.

As such, you have a say in every issue, but who you choose to vote with will be entirely different from case to case, as you vote relevant to the needs of your country.

Even if a law decreeing the enslavement of all Icelandic people where to be proposed, it wouldn't pass simply because a: issues regarding sovereignty need unanimous consent, and b: secession is always possible. So don't worry, you have nothing to fear
 

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Le_Lisra said:
USA has also the highest annual murder rate in the world with about 11,000 deaths. In comparison, the 2nd highest annual murder rate is Germany, with 60 to 80. This alone is reason enough to never set foot in that hell hole.
Two out of three of those countries has a higher suicide rate than the U.S. The third is a mere 2 spots behind. I wonder what that says about those countries? Hum...
Can you please link your source?
Wakka wakka!
Thank you for linking your source, but how do you know that Angryman used that source? and that list isn't really fair imo since the data from USA was done during 2005 but sweden&denmark was 2006 and Finlands data was from 2007.
I'd worry more about changing the Scandinavian culture of suffocating all unpleasant emotions than on currency of data.
More like suffocating in social security and universal healthcare.
I guess universal healthcare can't cure slitting your wrists in the tub!
Maybe not, but our mothers don't have to watch their babies die because they couldn't afford to take them to the hospital, because they didn't have an insurence of some shit.

Healthcare is for everyone, always.
Neither do ours, emergency rooms cannot deny treatment by law.

Also, nobody's healthcare is perfect.
And yet the US has worse infant motality rate than Cuba. Sweden is in place three, USA in place fourtyfour.

Or so says CIA [https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2091rank.html]
 

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Angryman101 said:
Tubez said:
All I can find on those links are suicide rates and that wasn't what I wasn't what I asked you to link.I was asking you to post links to that shows that 2007 was a better year economically speaking, than 2005. homedoggy G
Yeah, I got it the first time, homie G funkmonkey, I was being farcical. It's from memory; there was an economic downturn in the mid 2000's. I don't feel like looking up sources, chief.
Well good to know that your memory from stuff that happens in the future is a credible source.
 

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Le_Lisra said:
USA has also the highest annual murder rate in the world with about 11,000 deaths. In comparison, the 2nd highest annual murder rate is Germany, with 60 to 80. This alone is reason enough to never set foot in that hell hole.
Two out of three of those countries has a higher suicide rate than the U.S. The third is a mere 2 spots behind. I wonder what that says about those countries? Hum...
Can you please link your source?
Wakka wakka!
Thank you for linking your source, but how do you know that Angryman used that source? and that list isn't really fair imo since the data from USA was done during 2005 but sweden&denmark was 2006 and Finlands data was from 2007.
I'd worry more about changing the Scandinavian culture of suffocating all unpleasant emotions than on currency of data.
More like suffocating in social security and universal healthcare.
I guess universal healthcare can't cure slitting your wrists in the tub!
Maybe not, but our mothers don't have to watch their babies die because they couldn't afford to take them to the hospital, because they didn't have an insurence of some shit.

Healthcare is for everyone, always.
Neither do ours, emergency rooms cannot deny treatment by law.

Also, nobody's healthcare is perfect.
And yet the US has worse infant motality rate than Cuba. Sweden is in place three, USA in place fourtyfour.

Or so says CIA [https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2091rank.html]
Which doesn't change the fact that nobody's healthcare is perfect.
 

Angryman101

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Tubez said:
All I can find on those links are suicide rates and that wasn't what I wasn't what I asked you to link.I was asking you to post links to that shows that 2007 was a better year economically speaking, than 2005. homedoggy G
Yeah, I got it the first time, homie G funkmonkey, I was being farcical. It's from memory; there was an economic downturn in the mid 2000's. I don't feel like looking up sources, chief.
Well good to know that your memory from stuff that happens in the future is a credible source.
Ohhh, you're right, I should be treating this internet discussion like some sort of college thesis. I'll be sure to include an annotated biography next time professor, please don't fail me!
 

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Hardcore_gamer said:
Nickolai77 said:
Further more, there would be Icelanders in the EU commission and the EU parliament, all of which can work on influencing the EU. Individually, Iceland doesn't have that much power, but no EU country, bar perhaps the Big 3, has much individual power anyway. But by working together with other states of similar concerns and interests, Icelandic citizens can influence the EU.
WHICH COUNTRIES EXACTLY!!!!!

People just talk about how Iceland could theoretically work together on "common issues" with other similar countries but nobody has bothered to tell me who the fuck we are suppose to work with on "our common interests and issues" with within the EU in case we join.
What do you mean, which countries? I mean the EU states. Iceland can play a part in making the various pieces of legalisation which get passed in the EU. Be it on agriculture, industry, external trade deals, education, regional funding, infrastructural development et cetera.

Let's say the Commission decides to introduce further regulation on fishing with the intention of preserving fish-stocks. Iceland may oppose this, and could ally with other countries whom have interests in fishing like, say, the UK, Ireland, Portugal and maybe the Baltic States, and could block this ruling. Or perhaps, say the Commission decides to integrate the European green energy networks. Iceland would directly benefit from this because of it's resources in geo-thermal energy. Iceland could even ask for funding so it can maximise energy production from both geo-thermal, wind and tidal powers and Icelandic based companies could make a tidy profit selling it within the European market. The EU could sign a favourble trade deal with China allowing for increased EU purchases of rare earth's. Alone, Iceland could not get these favourable trade agreements with big international players, but the EU can, and Iceland enjoy's the benefits of being apart of the worlds largest and most powerful trading bloc.
 

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Angryman101 said:
Tubez said:
Angryman101 said:
Tubez said:
All I can find on those links are suicide rates and that wasn't what I wasn't what I asked you to link.I was asking you to post links to that shows that 2007 was a better year economically speaking, than 2005. homedoggy G
Yeah, I got it the first time, homie G funkmonkey, I was being farcical. It's from memory; there was an economic downturn in the mid 2000's. I don't feel like looking up sources, chief.
Well good to know that your memory from stuff that happens in the future is a credible source.
Ohhh, you're right, I should be treating this internet discussion like some sort of college thesis. I'll be sure to include an annotated biography next time professor, please don't fail me!
Hmm I will give you one more chance after that I will have to fail you =/ So don't waste this chance!
 

Angryman101

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Tubez said:
Angryman101 said:
Tubez said:
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Tubez said:
All I can find on those links are suicide rates and that wasn't what I wasn't what I asked you to link.I was asking you to post links to that shows that 2007 was a better year economically speaking, than 2005. homedoggy G
Yeah, I got it the first time, homie G funkmonkey, I was being farcical. It's from memory; there was an economic downturn in the mid 2000's. I don't feel like looking up sources, chief.
Well good to know that your memory from stuff that happens in the future is a credible source.
Ohhh, you're right, I should be treating this internet discussion like some sort of college thesis. I'll be sure to include an annotated biography next time professor, please don't fail me!
Hmm I will give you one more chance after that I will have to fail you =/ So don't waste this chance!
RADICAL! /skateboards out of class to 80's theme music
 

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Dr. Whiggs said:
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Le_Lisra said:
USA has also the highest annual murder rate in the world with about 11,000 deaths. In comparison, the 2nd highest annual murder rate is Germany, with 60 to 80. This alone is reason enough to never set foot in that hell hole.
Two out of three of those countries has a higher suicide rate than the U.S. The third is a mere 2 spots behind. I wonder what that says about those countries? Hum...
Can you please link your source?
Wakka wakka!
Thank you for linking your source, but how do you know that Angryman used that source? and that list isn't really fair imo since the data from USA was done during 2005 but sweden&denmark was 2006 and Finlands data was from 2007.
I'd worry more about changing the Scandinavian culture of suffocating all unpleasant emotions than on currency of data.
More like suffocating in social security and universal healthcare.
I guess universal healthcare can't cure slitting your wrists in the tub!
Maybe not, but our mothers don't have to watch their babies die because they couldn't afford to take them to the hospital, because they didn't have an insurence of some shit.

Healthcare is for everyone, always.
Neither do ours, emergency rooms cannot deny treatment by law.

Also, nobody's healthcare is perfect.
And yet the US has worse infant motality rate than Cuba. Sweden is in place three, USA in place fourtyfour.

Or so says CIA [https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2091rank.html]
Which doesn't change the fact that nobody's healthcare is perfect.
Maybe not, but those babies who died does trend to point at which one who is the better, don't you agree?
 

Dr. Whiggs

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Shycte said:
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Tubez said:
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Tubez said:
Angryman101 said:
Le_Lisra said:
USA has also the highest annual murder rate in the world with about 11,000 deaths. In comparison, the 2nd highest annual murder rate is Germany, with 60 to 80. This alone is reason enough to never set foot in that hell hole.
Two out of three of those countries has a higher suicide rate than the U.S. The third is a mere 2 spots behind. I wonder what that says about those countries? Hum...
Can you please link your source?
Wakka wakka!
Thank you for linking your source, but how do you know that Angryman used that source? and that list isn't really fair imo since the data from USA was done during 2005 but sweden&denmark was 2006 and Finlands data was from 2007.
I'd worry more about changing the Scandinavian culture of suffocating all unpleasant emotions than on currency of data.
More like suffocating in social security and universal healthcare.
I guess universal healthcare can't cure slitting your wrists in the tub!
Maybe not, but our mothers don't have to watch their babies die because they couldn't afford to take them to the hospital, because they didn't have an insurence of some shit.

Healthcare is for everyone, always.
Neither do ours, emergency rooms cannot deny treatment by law.

Also, nobody's healthcare is perfect.
And yet the US has worse infant motality rate than Cuba. Sweden is in place three, USA in place fourtyfour.

Or so says CIA [https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2091rank.html]
Which doesn't change the fact that nobody's healthcare is perfect.
Maybe not, but those babies who died does trend to point at which one who is the better, don't you agree?
Since it's damn near impossible to place the blame solely on healthcare (as opposed to parental behavior, accident, miscarriage, etc.), no, I don't.
 

Shycte

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Dr. Whiggs said:
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Angryman101 said:
Le_Lisra said:
USA has also the highest annual murder rate in the world with about 11,000 deaths. In comparison, the 2nd highest annual murder rate is Germany, with 60 to 80. This alone is reason enough to never set foot in that hell hole.
Two out of three of those countries has a higher suicide rate than the U.S. The third is a mere 2 spots behind. I wonder what that says about those countries? Hum...
Can you please link your source?
Wakka wakka!
Thank you for linking your source, but how do you know that Angryman used that source? and that list isn't really fair imo since the data from USA was done during 2005 but sweden&denmark was 2006 and Finlands data was from 2007.
I'd worry more about changing the Scandinavian culture of suffocating all unpleasant emotions than on currency of data.
More like suffocating in social security and universal healthcare.
I guess universal healthcare can't cure slitting your wrists in the tub!
Maybe not, but our mothers don't have to watch their babies die because they couldn't afford to take them to the hospital, because they didn't have an insurence of some shit.

Healthcare is for everyone, always.
Neither do ours, emergency rooms cannot deny treatment by law.

Also, nobody's healthcare is perfect.
And yet the US has worse infant motality rate than Cuba. Sweden is in place three, USA in place fourtyfour.

Or so says CIA [https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2091rank.html]
Which doesn't change the fact that nobody's healthcare is perfect.
Maybe not, but those babies who died does trend to point at which one who is the better, don't you agree?
Since it's damn near impossible to place the blame solely on healthcare (as opposed to parental behavior, accident, miscarriage, etc.), no, I don't.
So either american parents can't afford to visit the hospital, or americans are simply worse parents? Miscarriage I doubt would differ from America to Europe. So we don't have much left except bad healthcare system or bad pareting.

Anyway, I'm gonna sleep now so don't expect and answer right away.
 

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LONGEST QUOTE STRING IN HISTORY!
So either american parents can't afford to visit the hospital, or americans are simply worse parents? Miscarriage I doubt would differ from America to Europe. So we don't have much left except bad healthcare system or bad pareting.

Anyway, I'm gonna sleep now so don't expect and answer right away.
We have a larger pool of juggalos to draw mortality statistics from.

For example!

 

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Angryman101 said:
Two out of three of those countries has a higher suicide rate than the U.S. The third is a mere 2 spots behind. I wonder what that says about those countries? Hum...
Aw, c'mon, nobody is perfect. ;)
 

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What a good response! I still don't understand how Americans can find the English, (sophisticated, obviously) accent in any way amusing. Does it show a lack of confidence in yourself, to find a well-pronounced speaker amusing?
It's not so much amusing as it is interesting. We are surrounded by American accents in every day life, TV, etc. so hearing something different sounds cool and somewhat amusing. We're just not use to your accents.

OT:Why is the single country of the US being compared to the continent of Europe? Really. And it's not like we don't know how this will end. Europeans will tell us how we're all fat, rude, arrogant, gun obsessed losers who can't spell, have a horrible accent, and live in a war zone, and Americans wil attempt to defend themselves while probably offending several countries and proving to a certain degree that they are very patriotic. Comments about how stupid this all is will be made.

One thing I always wonder about is how no one ever seems to comment on how we all have different cultures. Things and actions that are acceptible in one country are repulsive in anouther. We all also have completly different governments. Shouldn't that make fairly judging countries against one anouther harder and basically useless? Not that it matters, since it's more interesting to just bash each other.
I can understand that. Stephen Fry is certainly something interesting, after listening to American accents pretty much exclusively for your life. Also, just so you know, North America is a continent, is it not? The US itself is a Republic.
Interesting poll: Apparently, less than 8% of Americans have even left the state they grew up in. I'm not sure were I read that from, but I'm definitely sure as to the accuracy of it. You people mostly live rather closeted lives, although all the Americans I know have obviously been to the UK at least once.
I thought the topic was America, as in USA, vs Europe. If it was refering to the continent of America, then they would have to specify if it was North or South. And just to be picky, we're a Democratic Republic. We aren't a Democracy since pure democracy deosn't work and we aren't a Republic because we are somewhat kind of democratic but mostly because we said so. I just get sick of peers talking about how we're a Democracy as if we just adopted the exact system the Greeks had (republicans) and others saying we're absolutely nothing like a Democracy (annoying arrogant kids like me).

The poll is definately true. The common excuses are that many states are the size of countries which makes travel for the reclusive and unmotivated a hassel, and the easiest countries for us to visit are Canada, which most Americans are convinced isn't much different, and Mexico. I know someone who has never even left the city she lives in. She's so proud of it that I almost feel sorry for her.
 

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Cat Cloud said:
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What a good response! I still don't understand how Americans can find the English, (sophisticated, obviously) accent in any way amusing. Does it show a lack of confidence in yourself, to find a well-pronounced speaker amusing?
It's not so much amusing as it is interesting. We are surrounded by American accents in every day life, TV, etc. so hearing something different sounds cool and somewhat amusing. We're just not use to your accents.

OT:Why is the single country of the US being compared to the continent of Europe? Really. And it's not like we don't know how this will end. Europeans will tell us how we're all fat, rude, arrogant, gun obsessed losers who can't spell, have a horrible accent, and live in a war zone, and Americans wil attempt to defend themselves while probably offending several countries and proving to a certain degree that they are very patriotic. Comments about how stupid this all is will be made.

One thing I always wonder about is how no one ever seems to comment on how we all have different cultures. Things and actions that are acceptible in one country are repulsive in anouther. We all also have completly different governments. Shouldn't that make fairly judging countries against one anouther harder and basically useless? Not that it matters, since it's more interesting to just bash each other.
I can understand that. Stephen Fry is certainly something interesting, after listening to American accents pretty much exclusively for your life. Also, just so you know, North America is a continent, is it not? The US itself is a Republic.
Interesting poll: Apparently, less than 8% of Americans have even left the state they grew up in. I'm not sure were I read that from, but I'm definitely sure as to the accuracy of it. You people mostly live rather closeted lives, although all the Americans I know have obviously been to the UK at least once.
I thought the topic was America, as in USA, vs Europe. If it was refering to the continent of America, then they would have to specify if it was North or South. And just to be picky, we're a Democratic Republic. We aren't a Democracy since pure democracy deosn't work and we aren't a Republic because we are somewhat kind of democratic but mostly because we said so. I just get sick of peers talking about how we're a Democracy as if we just adopted the exact system the Greeks had (republicans) and others saying we're absolutely nothing like a Democracy (annoying arrogant kids like me).

The poll is definately true. The common excuses are that many states are the size of countries which makes travel for the reclusive and unmotivated a hassel, and the easiest countries for us to visit are Canada, which most Americans are convinced isn't much different, and Mexico. I know someone who has never even left the city she lives in. She's so proud of it that I almost feel sorry for her.
A Democratic Republic? I suppose it could work; it obviously has long enough! I suppose that excuse for lack of travel does make sense, but where is the sense of adventure? I do feel sorry for that woman you mentioned; she sounds like a good-hearted ignorant individual. Where are you from, then?
 

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Mcface said:
"Feeling superior to others because you were born somewhere just makes you a fucking idiot. You had nothing to do with anything great that ever happened in your country, so just shut the fuck up, I'm sick of your bullshit."
I'm not so sure about that. I fought in two wars, I ran a small buisness. I think I did more then my share.

What am I getting at? Each and every person in a country contributes to the whole. Their country wouldn't exist today without the collective efforts of everyone. It's bullshit to say nobody here ever helped make their country great.
 

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manaman said:
Mcface said:
"Feeling superior to others because you were born somewhere just makes you a fucking idiot. You had nothing to do with anything great that ever happened in your country, so just shut the fuck up, I'm sick of your bullshit."
I'm not so sure about that. I fought in two wars, I ran a small buisness. I think I did more then my share.

What am I getting at? Each and every person in a country contributes to the whole. Their country wouldn't exist today without the collective efforts of everyone. It's bullshit to say nobody here ever helped make their country great.
I think you missed the whole "feeling superior" to someone else bit.
 

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LOL holy shit, I think people are taking this way too seriously.

I put this up as a joke.. and sure enough it just proved the image true.. dayum.
 

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JaymesFogarty said:
A Democratic Republic? I suppose it could work; it obviously has long enough! I suppose that excuse for lack of travel does make sense, but where is the sense of adventure? I do feel sorry for that woman you mentioned; she sounds like a good-hearted ignorant individual. Where are you from, then?
Our government is actually made to not work, or at least as slow as possible. Many people want to travel overseas, but they lack the money or time amoung other things. Typical vacation time given by most workplaces is two or sometimes three weeks. It's also easier and usually cheaper to just go to Florida or California. I'm from Minnesota; land of 10,000 lakes and 1,000,000,000 misquitoes. And where are you from?