America vs EU?

[Dr. Whiggs]

USA has also the highest annual murder rate in the world with about 11,000 deaths. In comparison, the 2nd highest annual murder rate is Germany, with 60 to 80. This alone is reason enough to never set foot in that hell hole.

Two out of three of those countries has a higher suicide rate than the U.S. The third is a mere 2 spots behind. I wonder what that says about those countries? Hum...

Can you please link your source?

Wakka wakka!

Thank you for linking your source, but how do you know that Angryman used that source? and that list isn't really fair imo since the data from USA was done during 2005 but sweden&denmark was 2006 and Finlands data was from 2007.

I'd worry more about changing the Scandinavian culture of suffocating all unpleasant emotions than on currency of data.

 

[Shycte]

USA has also the highest annual murder rate in the world with about 11,000 deaths. In comparison, the 2nd highest annual murder rate is Germany, with 60 to 80. This alone is reason enough to never set foot in that hell hole.

Two out of three of those countries has a higher suicide rate than the U.S. The third is a mere 2 spots behind. I wonder what that says about those countries? Hum...

Can you please link your source?

Wakka wakka!

Thank you for linking your source, but how do you know that Angryman used that source? and that list isn't really fair imo since the data from USA was done during 2005 but sweden&denmark was 2006 and Finlands data was from 2007.

Not to mention that it is from Wikipedia. I could change that article if I wanted.

 

[MrTub]

USA has also the highest annual murder rate in the world with about 11,000 deaths. In comparison, the 2nd highest annual murder rate is Germany, with 60 to 80. This alone is reason enough to never set foot in that hell hole.

Two out of three of those countries has a higher suicide rate than the U.S. The third is a mere 2 spots behind. I wonder what that says about those countries? Hum...

Can you please link your source?

Google it, guy.

How am I suppose to know which source you are using by just using google? and I got to say I find it a bit offensive how you are using "Guy" feel a bit like your trying to use "guy" as son or something.

 

[Angryman101]

Two out of three of those countries has a higher suicide rate than the U.S. The third is a mere 2 spots behind. I wonder what that says about those countries? Hum...

Well for one, these countries are very honest about population statistics. The #1 right in these countries is freedom of speech, and taboos don't really exist there compared to the US. Suicides in particular is a very difficult topic, and America is very deeply rooted in religion and I presume there is a lot of black numbers on that particular subject.

Anyway, I thought we weren't going to be speaking of statistics? If that has changed, what about the following?: http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/lif_wil_fig_for_cou-lifestyle-will-fight-for-country

Too lazy to click?

Will fight for country:
#1. Norway (90%)
#1. Sweden (90%)
#2. Denmark (89%)
...
#5. United States (78%)
#10. Canada (68%)

You are hilariously, hypocritically ignorant. Baseless assumptions does not an argument make.
And fuck fighting for my country, unless it's under attack and my loved ones are directly in danger. Are you saying our lack of nationalism-the baseless manic bullshit that caused both World Wars-is a bad thing? Herp derp. Dissatisfaction with one's government and country is a good thing, it leads to change.

 

[Shycte]

USA has also the highest annual murder rate in the world with about 11,000 deaths. In comparison, the 2nd highest annual murder rate is Germany, with 60 to 80. This alone is reason enough to never set foot in that hell hole.

Two out of three of those countries has a higher suicide rate than the U.S. The third is a mere 2 spots behind. I wonder what that says about those countries? Hum...

Can you please link your source?

Wakka wakka!

Thank you for linking your source, but how do you know that Angryman used that source? and that list isn't really fair imo since the data from USA was done during 2005 but sweden&denmark was 2006 and Finlands data was from 2007.

I'd worry more about changing the Scandinavian culture of suffocating all unpleasant emotions than on currency of data.

More like suffocating in social security and universal healthcare.

 

[AWAR]

Great. This is turning into a VS. thread.

Can we get some mods to remove this thread, already?

Nope. The idiotic people here in Iceland don't want to join the EU. They're afraid that all our national business will go down the drain.

Maybe I didn't pay much attention when learning about this...

I know they submitted an application to join the EU and I know the EU acknowledged it.

Maybe they're not out of talks yet.

The government wants in. And joining the EU would greatly help us in our economic shit. But around 10-25% of the people here don't want Iceland to join the EU because of how uneducated about the situation they are.

I could write a long ass speech about this. But I have better things to do at the moment.

Err... How is joining the EU a great idea exactly? According to you it "will help you in your economic shit". Can you be a little be more precise?

It more or less about being a part of the community. There is new powers growing and one would be foolish to stay outside in the rain once the party starts if you know what I mean.

As I see it, there are some errors that needs to be fixed, but other than that it could work great.

No shit! That way we can all go bankrupt, together ^^ !
For real, you should get over this joining- the- most- powerful- mentality, things aren't always what they seem to be. I don't think Iceland is going to be any more of a ***** to the EU, rather than have any control whatsoever.

p.s. I'm surprised this thread is still going

 

[MrTub]

USA has also the highest annual murder rate in the world with about 11,000 deaths. In comparison, the 2nd highest annual murder rate is Germany, with 60 to 80. This alone is reason enough to never set foot in that hell hole.

Two out of three of those countries has a higher suicide rate than the U.S. The third is a mere 2 spots behind. I wonder what that says about those countries? Hum...

Can you please link your source?

Wakka wakka!

Thank you for linking your source, but how do you know that Angryman used that source? and that list isn't really fair imo since the data from USA was done during 2005 but sweden&denmark was 2006 and Finlands data was from 2007.

I'd worry more about changing the Scandinavian culture of suffocating all unpleasant emotions than on currency of data.

What do you mean by suffocating all our unpleasant emotions?

 

[rokkolpo]

People you are all forgetting the major thing.

us Dutch have legalised weed!
yeah...sorry for that.

Well yes but, haven't you legalised like everything?

Well almost.
sadly we lost bestiality February this year.
no more satisfaction for the RL furries.

And I sincerely hope necrophilia is against the law aswell.

 

[lightningmagurn]

Actually the U.S. Constitution is based off of writers from all over Europe, but mostly England


On to other things.
I believe that America is better because I live here. When it comes down to it I like America more because I have been able to fully live her freedoms and I have the best she can offer at my disposal.

 

[Angryman101]

USA has also the highest annual murder rate in the world with about 11,000 deaths. In comparison, the 2nd highest annual murder rate is Germany, with 60 to 80. This alone is reason enough to never set foot in that hell hole.

Two out of three of those countries has a higher suicide rate than the U.S. The third is a mere 2 spots behind. I wonder what that says about those countries? Hum...

Can you please link your source?

Google it, guy.

How am I suppose to know which source you are using by just using google? and I got to say I find it a bit offensive how you are using "Guy" feel a bit like your trying to use "guy" as son or something.

Uh, sorry, should I use 'bro' or 'bud' or 'homedoggy G'? That's just a word I use.
And if you google it, you'll see it. It's not as if there is not some kind of consensus on the suicide rates, it's the same story with all reports.

 

[Nikokvaj]

1 out of 27 to be precise, which isn't bad.

What? How is 1/27 not bad? Please explain this to me.

Because you would have just as much of a say as any other country.

Besides, it's not like the situation for the Icelandic economy is unique, I'm sure you could find plenty of countries in the EU with a very similar economy. Finland, Sweden, Belgium, Denmark and the Netherlands are also small but relatively export heavy countries with a welfare state similar to that of Iceland, surely they could agree on a lot of things, forming a voting base powerful enough to stop any procedures that would be against their interest.

Making up some fictional possible future scenario where all of the Scandinavian countries just decide to conveniently band together and form a common voting base on common matters is your idea of countering the issue of of small countries having no real say in decision making?

This isn't some fictional scenario, it's how it works. States with a common interest in stopping a law can do so, as long as there is four of them.

The commission, that proposes the laws, is one country - one vote, so power is equally shared in the regard. Once they are to be passed, they cannot be without the consent of the Council, so it is in every way impossible for the larger nations to ignore smaller ones.

 

[MrTub]

USA has also the highest annual murder rate in the world with about 11,000 deaths. In comparison, the 2nd highest annual murder rate is Germany, with 60 to 80. This alone is reason enough to never set foot in that hell hole.

Two out of three of those countries has a higher suicide rate than the U.S. The third is a mere 2 spots behind. I wonder what that says about those countries? Hum...

Can you please link your source?

Google it, guy.

How am I suppose to know which source you are using by just using google? and I got to say I find it a bit offensive how you are using "Guy" feel a bit like your trying to use "guy" as son or something.

Uh, sorry, should I use 'bro' or 'bud' or 'homedoggy G'? That's just a word I use.
And if you google it, you'll see it. It's not as if there is not some kind of consensus on the suicide rates, it's the same story with all reports.

I actually prefer if you didnt use any of those(Shocking I know!)

well I actually found 3 sites that published difference findings.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_suicide_rate
http://www.who.int/mental_health/prevention/suicide/suiciderates/en/
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/hea_sui_rat_mal-health-suicide-rate-males
so.. I guess you used them all since if I googled them I would see it?

 

[Angryman101]

Not to mention that it is from Wikipedia. I could change that article if I wanted.

For roughly 10 seconds before the busy-body, fascist mods come and change it back and ban your IP from making any more changes, lol.
A two year difference does not make that much of a difference, guy. Especially since 2007 was a better year, economically speaking, than 2005, which means that suicides most likely would have been lower.

 

[Dr. Whiggs]

USA has also the highest annual murder rate in the world with about 11,000 deaths. In comparison, the 2nd highest annual murder rate is Germany, with 60 to 80. This alone is reason enough to never set foot in that hell hole.

Two out of three of those countries has a higher suicide rate than the U.S. The third is a mere 2 spots behind. I wonder what that says about those countries? Hum...

Can you please link your source?

Wakka wakka!

Thank you for linking your source, but how do you know that Angryman used that source? and that list isn't really fair imo since the data from USA was done during 2005 but sweden&denmark was 2006 and Finlands data was from 2007.

I'd worry more about changing the Scandinavian culture of suffocating all unpleasant emotions than on currency of data.

More like suffocating in social security and universal healthcare.

I guess universal healthcare can't cure slitting your wrists in the tub!

 

[MrTub]

Not to mention that it is from Wikipedia. I could change that article if I wanted.

For roughly 10 seconds before the busy-body, fascist mods come and change it back and ban your IP from making any more changes, lol.
A two year difference does not make that much of a difference, guy. Especially since 2007 was a better year, economically speaking, than 2005, which means that suicides most likely would have been lower.

Can you link your source again, dude.

 

[Angryman101]

You are hilariously, hypocritically ignorant. Baseless assumptions does not an argument make.
And fuck fighting for my country, unless it's under attack and my loved ones are directly in danger. Are you saying our lack of nationalism-the baseless manic bullshit that caused both World Wars-is a bad thing? Herp derp. Dissatisfaction with one's government and country is a good thing, it leads to change.

You are assuming all populations require or desire change? In the case of the Scandinavian countries, that isn't true. Just saying.


Now I know Michael Moore is pretty much a hack, but this segment in particular is pretty much spot on.

Watch it and tell me one thing you would change about this system. One.

Stagnation is never healthy. Conflict drives evolution, drives life. Pressure will build up, no matter how perfect the system, and things will change. So it is now, so it has always been.

 

[Dr. Whiggs]

USA has also the highest annual murder rate in the world with about 11,000 deaths. In comparison, the 2nd highest annual murder rate is Germany, with 60 to 80. This alone is reason enough to never set foot in that hell hole.

Two out of three of those countries has a higher suicide rate than the U.S. The third is a mere 2 spots behind. I wonder what that says about those countries? Hum...

Can you please link your source?

Wakka wakka!

Thank you for linking your source, but how do you know that Angryman used that source? and that list isn't really fair imo since the data from USA was done during 2005 but sweden&denmark was 2006 and Finlands data was from 2007.

I'd worry more about changing the Scandinavian culture of suffocating all unpleasant emotions than on currency of data.

What do you mean by suffocating all our unpleasant emotions?

I mean bottling up all the negative emotions because they might hurt someone's feelings. The same stuff you guys exported to Minnesota way back when.