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They were just a distraction. They didn't get to doing much besides losing until after Stalingrad. Despite being so close to Japan, they didn't do much of anything about them even after Germany was defeated.Drauden said:I suppose everyone, including the US, owes Russia then? Or the Soviet Union. People always seem to forget about our commie-friends.
At least, we in the US are not informed of them doing much because we are too busy congratulating ourselves for saving everyone after we came in several years late to the party after everyone else was tired of fighting.
Yeah guess why Germany has so many suicides..? It's because its one of the few countries on Earth in which euthanasia is allowed and practiced.. lots of people go there to end their lives easily.. besides suicide doesn't make one place worse than the next.Dr. Whiggs said:
And Dunblane was an isolated incident back in 1996, we have extremely strict gun rules now, whereas USA, well you've still got problems with the right to bear arms fiascoes..
I'm sorry but on a world map russia may look close to Japan but in reality, the only things of military might in Eastern Russia are a few radar stations and angry farmers, the Russian army couldn't have fought against Japan.. Anyway, it's only you amercians that have any beef with the Japs..demoman_chaos said:They were just a distraction. They didn't get to doing much besides losing until after Stalingrad. Despite being so close to Japan, they didn't do much of anything about them even after Germany was defeated.Drauden said:I suppose everyone, including the US, owes Russia then? Or the Soviet Union. People always seem to forget about our commie-friends.
At least, we in the US are not informed of them doing much because we are too busy congratulating ourselves for saving everyone after we came in several years late to the party after everyone else was tired of fighting.
Considering they bombed pearl harbor out of the blue i don't blame the americans...
I'm not talking about the early United States. I'm talking pre-United States. I know the debates that took place during the writing of the Articles of Confederation and later the Constitution, but before even the rumblings of revolution started, people came to the New World to escape their governments back in Europe. I know my US history.Razgovory said:
The French view the English like the English view them. We're "Roast Beef" and they're "Frogs". It's all light hearted and 99.9% of the people you interact with don't care, but you do get the feeling that some people don't like you very much because of you being English. The French have a running joke that the English are invading France, more and more English people are emigrating here. There's at least 2 English kids in every class and (where I live at least) there are a lot of English families around.Nickolai77 said:Sounds like itfishman279 said:
But out of interest, how do the French view the English? Is the tongue in cheek rivalry mutually shared?
Also, judging by the complete lack of French people on the Escapist...do the French not like speaking English?
Oh the French HATE speaking English. They're trying to pass laws that remove things like "Weekend", "Sandwich" and "Parking" from their language. You get a good few people that CAN speak English quite well, but they won't even try unless you ask. I actually agree with it. The Metropolitan police in London are taught basic arabic, that's not on really.
You have a good bit of banter most days, and you get a laugh out of it. Can't wait till England play France next month though, apart from if we lose. If England lose, my life will be hell
Interesting. I have a friend who's studying languages, (French and Italian) and as part of her course she's going to live in France and Italy for 6 months respectively. Any advise you could pass on?fishman279 said:The French view the English like the English view them. We're "Roast Beef" and they're "Frogs". It's all light hearted and 99.9% of the people you interact with don't care, but you do get the feeling that some people don't like you very much because of you being English. The French have a running joke that the English are invading France, more and more English people are emigrating here. There's at least 2 English kids in every class and (where I live at least) there are a lot of English families around.Nickolai77 said:Sounds like itfishman279 said:
But out of interest, how do the French view the English? Is the tongue in cheek rivalry mutually shared?
Also, judging by the complete lack of French people on the Escapist...do the French not like speaking English?
Oh the French HATE speaking English. They're trying to pass laws that remove things like "Weekend", "Sandwich" and "Parking" from their language. You get a good few people that CAN speak English quite well, but they won't even try unless you ask. I actually agree with it. The Metropolitan police in London are taught basic arabic, that's not on really.
You have a good bit of banter most days, and you get a laugh out of it. Can't wait till England play France next month though, apart from if we lose. If England lose, my life will be hell
Also, are the French so protectionist about their language because they view it as a really major part of their national identity, or are they just ambiguous against the English because our language is more successful?
Ah, good for her, you can never learn too many languages. As for advice... There's not much really apart from to really immerse yourself in the language. In 6 months you can pick up almost all of the language judging by how much time I and a few other English people I know here have taken to learn it. I was put in a school with no English speaking staff or pupils. At the beginning it was mostly basics like "Comment tu t'appelles?" "Je m'appelle Tom" or hand signs but by the end of the year I was practically fluent. My parents said "Being thrown into the deep end with no help really forces you to learn a lot quicker." at the time and looking back I agree 100%.Nickolai77 said:
I think it's a bit of both to be honest. It's a huge part of their national identity as you said and they're fiercely protective of that (Banning the Burkha for example) but I think they envy the popularity/success of the English language a bit. It's also fast disappearing as a language, outside of the French colonies and old African colonies it's hardly spoken at all. They'd never admit it though
No! Well, yes... But uh... Most of these were occupied by nazzies, not supporters of nazzies... Well except for Spain and Bulgaria. But that's not the point! The point is there are alot greater and more important things in Europe than the stupid nazzies and we're all ashamed of them, by the way(I mean the nazzies). I don't know why you stupid yankees keep rubbing them in our noses >.>Razgovory said:
P.S. Sorry for the insult, but I am really getting pissed-off.
Yeah, that was pretty much my point, only I can't spell, so it wrote an "a" instead of an "e", In the end of Europe.Willem said:
But point's the same.
If you ask me, it's just a bad, way to sweet, copy of whisky/whiskey (yes, there is a difference). Though there are some good ones in between, so yeah, it was wrong of me to write "in general".-Zen- said:
Yeah, that was pretty much my point, only I can't spell, so it wrote an "a" instead of an "e", In the end of Europe.Willem said:
But point's the same.
If you ask me, it's just a bad, way to sweet, copy of whisky/whiskey (yes, there is a difference). Though there are some good ones in between, so yeah, it was wrong of me to write "in general".-Zen- said:
Well you see, we lost a lot people and money helping solve this Nazi problem for you guys. It kinda sticks in our minds. If you visit other countries like China, India, Egypt,and the Congo they have completely different reasons for not liking you guys that has nothing to do with Nazis. So next time some evil American reminds you of your Nazi past you be sure to tell him that Europeans have committed all types of crimes against humanity and that people shouldn't focus only on the Nazis.n00beffect said:
It's funny how you Americans try so hard not to be European ;d Or how you try to forget your European descent, it's hilarious! XD You all know very well that a big part of your, so called "country" are actually European refugies(especially the really white ones ;d) and that your grannies and grandpapies are all actually Italians, or French, or hell, maybe even Germans ;d So as much as you pretend America is a country based on it's own citizenship and own history and everything, you know deep inside your heart that your great, great grandma' was actually a Frauline(or however the fuck that's spelled) back in her old country ;d So, I feel your pain, I really do. And yeah, we have commited a lot of f**ked-up shit in our time, but we've done a lot of great things, too. Let me just recall, oh I don't know, the whole RENAISSANCE thing, yeah, I'm pretty sure it was European. And how about that one thing that you Americans like so much and on which half(or maybe more than half?) of your economy depends and strives on, um... how was it... Oh yeah, CINEMA. Ever heard of the Lumiere brothers? Yeah they basically gave a headstart to that whole cinema thing. Basically, Hollywood, wouldn't exist right now if it wasn't for them. Oh and how about that Einstein guy? He was pretty great wasn't he? Even though he was GERMAN(well, jewish, but whatever). And let's not even mention all the great painters, poets, writers and everything. Especially painters like Picasso, Modigliani, Renoir, Da Vinci... Oh yeah, I forgot you Americans aren't very big on art, that's a bit complicated for your minds, sorry for making it hard on your booboo(brain). Anyways, I think I made my point - America is just a fraction of Europe's greatness and ideas. So shut the hell up, sir, if you don't mindRazgovory said:
It might be helpful to remember that American was founded by people who were trying to escape from Europe. For our ancestors Europe wasn't exactly a nice place. Some were forced out, other starved out, other fled oppression or intolerance. Mr. Einstein who you pointed out is an excellent example. Born in Germany he was forced to flee and died an American citizen in the US. We don't "try" not to be Europeans. We were told in no uncertain terms that we were not wanted. Well not all of course. Some were slaves in Africa or native tribes in North America. Though their ancestors experience with Europe wasn't really better.n00beffect said:It's funny how you Americans try so hard not to be European ;d Or how you try to forget your European descent, it's hilarious! XD You all know very well that a big part of your, so called "country" are actually European refugies(especially the really white ones ;d) and that your grannies and grandpapies are all actually Italians, or French, or hell, maybe even Germans ;d So as much as you pretend America is a country based on it's own citizenship and own history and everything, you know deep inside your heart that your great, great grandma' was actually a Frauline(or however the fuck that's spelled) back in her old country ;d So, I feel your pain, I really do. And yeah, we have commited a lot of f**ked-up shit in our time, but we've done a lot of great things, too. Let me just recall, oh I don't know, the whole RENAISSANCE thing, yeah, I'm pretty sure it was European. And how about that one thing that you Americans like so much and on which half(or maybe more than half?) of your economy depends and strives on, um... how was it... Oh yeah, CINEMA. Ever heard of the Lumiere brothers? Yeah they basically gave a headstart to that whole cinema thing. Basically, Hollywood, wouldn't exist right now if it wasn't for them. Oh and how about that Einstein guy? He was pretty great wasn't he? Even though he was GERMAN(well, jewish, but whatever). And let's not even mention all the great painters, poets, writers and everything. Especially painters like Picasso, Modigliani, Renoir, Da Vinci... Oh yeah, I forgot you Americans aren't very big on art, that's a bit complicated for your minds, sorry for making it hard on your booboo(brain). Anyways, I think I made my point - America is just a fraction of Europe's greatness and ideas. So shut the hell up, sir, if you don't mindRazgovory said:
Very little of economy relies on Cinema. Most of economy is based on service jobs. Our film industry does very well and doesn't even need government support (unlike in many European countries). In no large part because our friends of Europe wait in line to buy our culture. In contrast we don't buy German sitcoms or French music very often. I suppose this is the reason why Europeans have this inferiority complex toward their Americans cousins. Europeans often reject their culture and adopt elements of American culture. While in Europe I saw American films and television and music everywhere.
Yeah, it is true that most of the shitty stuff we watch on TV are actually American. You know, all the mass productions and everything, based solemnly on the idea of consumerism. I am glad you admited that most of you are slaves to society and mind you not just regular slaves to society, but your entire country is built upon the foundation of Supply&Demand. I don't know why you're so proud of that, actually. It boggles me to no extent. But yeah, in terms of lame entertainment you guys trash us in every possible way. Unfortunately for you though, our entertainment is not based entirely on your sitcoms, or whatever. We have an entire history, we have classics and things like that and though Europe is becoming more like America recently, with all the consumarism everywhere, we still have people who appreciate real things such as art for example. We have a great history and museums that strive upon Europe's greatness and struggle to sustain itself. So basically, what you Americans are proud of is that you've brought upon the world the word CONSUMER and that your entire economy depends on you being consumers, is that it? While Europe manages to do so(or has managed to do so until recently) without the need to enslave it's own people to being, how should I put it... "9 to 5"ers?