an epic tale of how social networking will get your stuff stolen.

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Julianking93

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ace_of_something said:
I didn't know you were a detective, but this is one of the reasons I don't use social networking sites.

Its funny you mention this because I was just discussing this with my dad last night and how easy it would be just to check the person's Facebook since everyone always says where they are at all times.

There's even this site we think is really funny that's called "pleaserobme.com" where it shows Facebook accounts of people saying they'll be gone for the next few days, so in a since, its basically saying "please rob me"
 

Jeronus

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This guy did what I thought impossible. He used Twitter to do something useful. It was illegal but it is the only instance of someone using Twitter to do something important, if not criminal.
 

Eagle Est1986

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Ahhh, I remember reading one of your other tales now. Maybe you should have a single thread to consolidate all of your happenings into one easy to read chunk. I say this because right now I want to go and read every thread you've made, yes it's a slow day at work.
 

Sjakie

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I allready knew about stuff like this. Nowadays i just think: smart burglar
If you disregard your own privacy by posting that stuff on the net you still should be protected by law...but dont be too suprised if someone will screw you over with it.
All it takes is 1 asshole and we have plenty of those in todays world. Just another one of those things to be aware of.

social network sites are overrated imo, i rather have friends i can actually hang out with or ring their doorbells when i run out of beer at home.
 

Fire Daemon

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Reminds me a little bit of that old (and probably false) wives tale in which a couple have their car stolen but a week later it is returned with a note reading "I apologize for stealing your car, my wife was giving birth and I had no other means to get her to the hospital. In repayment please accept these two tickets to the opera." The folks go to the opera and when they come back they find all of their stuff and the car stolen.

Congrats on catching the guy though. I tend to not tell people when going out or doing stuff and there is usually someone else at home but thanks for the epic tale and advice.

An off-topic question: How do you become a detective? I assume that you take a degree in criminology and then join the police, or something in that line. I've always had that hunch but no one has ever been able to completely answer my question.
 

Quaxar

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People posting where they life, where they go and how long it will take them to return probably deserve to be robbed. I don't say criminals using this should get lesser sentences, but as an insurance company I'd seriously consider raising the payments...
 

Erja_Perttu

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ace_of_something said:
AngloDoom said:
And now I want to be a detective. With a fedora, shades, raincoat, and smokes of course.
I do wear a trenchcoat and shades! Though no fedora I have spikey hair and a hat would mess that up. Vainity thy name is ace_of_something. I can't smoke despite how cool it looks due to some other health problems. So close. I guess I'll have to go back to narrating my life in my head again

*I reached in the drawer of my desk and opened the flask of burbon that I keep close to my heart and then I looked down at my .45 named 'precious' that I keep even closer still*
You are now my hero. I shall throw a parade in your honour. It shall have jugglers.

On topic: It's dreadful how many people don't have the basic common sense not to annouce when they're leaving on holiday or something. You'd think that saying to the internet 'I'm not in my house right now' would rank somewhere between writing it in the sky and grabbing a megaphone, sitting in a crowded street and shouting your address.

Besides, I like creating pseudo identities too much to ever give out my real details.
 

PedroSteckecilo

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But isn't the most popular time for robbery 11:00am anyway? When most people are at work? Seems to me if you really want to break into somebodies house, there isn't THAT much stopping you.
 

Amethyst Wind

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ace_of_something said:
Not sure what AS level means. But I do have a M(aster's Degree of)Science in Sociology/Criminology. Weeee go me!
AS stands for Advanced Subsidiary level. In the UK the education system works like so:

Go to High School from 11/12 to 16. Set exams in final year called GCSEs (General Certificates of Secondary Education).

From 16 to 18 attend college, or '6th Form', split into two years, the first year you take your AS levels, and the 2nd year you take your A2, or Advanced, levels.

18 onwards you go to University.

So since he's studying AS Law, and you have a Masters, you just about have the upper-hand.
 

BuyableDoor

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Andrew9001 said:
The morals of the story:
Don't give out too much information over the internet, don't announce your absence over the internet, and don't own valuable stuff.
Hah! Got that last one covered.
Unless said thief is a gamer of course, then I'd be far up shit creek.
 

ace_of_something

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Prof.Wood said:
Is 38 minuets a good time for him to 'hang in' as it were?
For burglaries it's usually an hour and half. (Murder guys will take like 4 or 6 hours)
I don't like to toot my own horn but I can usually clock in under an hour.
Though it's because I am very intimidating looking (I'm 6'6") but can come off as very 'fatherly' or even 'sympathetic' in my interview style. Being nice works a lot better usually.
 

ace_of_something

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PedroSteckecilo said:
But isn't the most popular time for robbery 11:00am anyway? When most people are at work? Seems to me if you really want to break into somebodies house, there isn't THAT much stopping you.
You are absolutly right - In middle class areas. However, In lower class areas, which this was. Where many have no jobs or work weird jobs it's pretty much all over the place. These took place in the early evening (about 8pm) which is actually the RAREST time. Another reason we figured they were linked.
 

FranzTyphid

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ace_of_something said:
It's no secret if you've read my posts/threads that I'm a detective.
I aint gonna mess with you now.

From reading this i will look after what information i put on my facebook page
 

ace_of_something

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Eagle Est1986 said:
I say this because right now I want to go and read every thread you've made, yes it's a slow day at work.
[a href=http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/18.145311-Its-this-part-of-the-job-that-I-hate]This one I link to two more threads[/a]

I think I've made 3 or 4 threads total with something like this in them. The ask a cop one is pretty long.

Fire Daemon said:
An off-topic question: How do you become a detective? I assume that you take a degree in criminology and then join the police, or something in that line. I've always had that hunch but no one has ever been able to completely answer my question.
My personal story is actually a long, winding, and pretty boring tale. So I'll give you a more broad answer:

GENERALLY most of the time to be a detective you start in a police department at an entry level position and work your way up. It's a promotion in some departments. Where your job is just 'detective' or like my department (and most of them) it's a lateral promotion. You get payed a bit more but you don't go up in rank. For example my full job title is
"Corporal Detective, Crimes Against Property Department Specialist"
Very few departments require much beyond a high school deploma to get hired. Many departments however want you to have SOME higher education especially to get promoted. I competed with 6 other officer for my position. They reviewed our paperwork, seniority, behaivor, and education. I'd be lying to myself if I didn't say the main reason I was picked over the others is I was the only one with a college education. In fact, I've only been on the department I'm on for 2 years, all the other guys had 5+. (though I was on a different department for 5 years previously)

In short, you don't need a degree but it sure helps get the gig. Mostly, it's all about intuition, observation, and communication skills.
 

mrhockey220

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Do some departments behave like they do in Super Troopers? I no they were state troopers and i doubt cops screw around with other people but i just thought id ask.
 

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NeuroShock said:
I think it's against the law for police officers/detectives to lure people into committing a crime so they can arrest them. I believe it was called Entrapment or something.
Yeah, and if you ask if they're a cop, they have to say yes.

mrhockey220 said:
Do some departments behave like they do in Super Troopers? I no they were state troopers and i doubt cops screw around with other people but i just thought id ask.
It would be entertaining to hear about those kind of shenanigans. Oh, shi-*pistolwhipped*
 

NeuroShock

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chowderface said:
NeuroShock said:
I think it's against the law for police officers/detectives to lure people into committing a crime so they can arrest them. I believe it was called Entrapment or something.
Yeah, and if you ask if they're a cop, they have to say yes.
I point you to this:

ace_of_something said:
NeuroShock said:
PayJ567 said:
Ever thought of laying traps this way? Could catch a lot of theives if you baited the hook yourselves.
I think it's against the law for police officers/detectives to lure people into committing a crime so they can arrest them. I believe it was called Entrapment or something.
No, entrapment is only when you cause/force someone to do something they wouldn't otherwise do. It can be a thin line. I worked as a vice officer for 3 years so I got real familiar with that line.

For example: Let's say I'm pretending to buy some drugs. (this is a stripped down example)
I find my inside guy (a user) and get him to set me up a meeting with the dealer. Vouching for how cool I am. I go in the place and ask the guy for some crack or something. He says "how much you want?" I slap down $28 in crumpled sweaty $1s and $5s. He then sells me the rock. I got outside. I come back in about 15 minutes with more people and guns. We arrest him.

See? I didn't MAKE him do anything. I didn't trick him. He did all this of his own will.

Now entrapment would be in the same scenario I tell him "If you don't sell me some crack I'm going to hire someone to kill you" and then he does. Beceause he could argue "I wouldn't've sold crack if I hadn't feared for my life"

Does this make sense? I don't know if it's the best example.