Analysts Say Call of Duty Won't Go Guitar Hero

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Jezzascmezza

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I honestly think that COD sales will go down this year.
There's so many games coming out in November, like Uncharted 3, Skyrim, and many others, that I think will over-shadow whatever the next COD game is.
 

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Eri said:
Uh, too bad it already has? At the rate they've come out, they've already guitar hero'd the franchise. Good or not.
What are you talking about?

This was the highest sold CoD game in the franchise, not to mention the highest sold video game of all time.
 

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Ah, so much hate. I knew if I read this forum it would be covered in it. I actually enjoy the Call of Duty games, although some are better than others. Analysts for video games always make me smile because of their ability to "predict" common sense.
 

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Patrick_and_the_ricks said:
If they over saturate the market of course they will fail. Cod has reached it's peak in sales, so it can only go down from here. I'm pretty sure Microsoft once said the same about Halo.
And halo is still going strong
 

Eri

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Tdc2182 said:
Eri said:
Uh, too bad it already has? At the rate they've come out, they've already guitar hero'd the franchise. Good or not.
What are you talking about?

This was the highest sold CoD game in the franchise, not to mention the highest sold video game of all time.
They flooded the market with CoD games. There's already an absurd number of them. That's all I mean.
 

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Flac00 said:
Patrick_and_the_ricks said:
If they over saturate the market of course they will fail. Cod has reached it's peak in sales, so it can only go down from here. I'm pretty sure Microsoft once said the same about Halo.
And halo is still going strong
Hardly, the games are alright but it's far from the best selling shooters Halo 1 and 2 were. Cod has blown Halo out of the water in terms of sales. Only a matter of time before Cod's sales tip.
 

Tdc2182

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Eri said:
Tdc2182 said:
Eri said:
Uh, too bad it already has? At the rate they've come out, they've already guitar hero'd the franchise. Good or not.
What are you talking about?

This was the highest sold CoD game in the franchise, not to mention the highest sold video game of all time.
They flooded the market with CoD games. There's already an absurd number of them. That's all I mean.
Clearly you are not involved with the CoD series. We still want them and they tend to come out at the perfect times when people start to get bored with them
 

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Patrick_and_the_ricks said:
Flac00 said:
Patrick_and_the_ricks said:
If they over saturate the market of course they will fail. Cod has reached it's peak in sales, so it can only go down from here. I'm pretty sure Microsoft once said the same about Halo.
And halo is still going strong
Hardly, the games are alright but it's far from the best selling shooters Halo 1 and 2 were. Cod has blown Halo out of the water in terms of sales. Only a matter of time before Cod's sales tip.
Blops sold more than MW2. So saying COD peaked is kinda silly.

Edit: oops looks like someone already pointed that out.
 

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Analysts? more like party-poopers.

Not likely, according to several industry analysts who spoke to IndustryGamers on the matter. While any regularly iterated game series risks "franchise fatigue," Jesse Divnich of EEDAR said Guitar Hero and Call of Duty are "two different franchises with two different demographics. I don't believe any lessons learned from the music category applies to the Call of Duty franchise."
yes, but unfortunately only one of those demographics can realize when they're being taken advantage of.

The most important difference between the two is that Guitar Hero, and the music game genre as a whole, was a fad that was bound to die out sooner or later. "With GH it seemed that it was very likely to be a fad that would be milked until it dried out. It was somewhat the same issue as extreme sports and hunting games," said David Cole of DFC Intelligence. "FPS games are a long proven genre and thus don't seem to have fallen into that fad issue."
If I ever get a chance to meet with this David Cole he will have wish he never said that.....

Some analysts, in fact, praised Activision's handling of the property. "Guitar Hero and other former franchises may appear to be publisher failures, but the truth is that strip-mining franchises is a successful, risk-averse strategy. [Activision] made good money on GH," said Billy Pidgeon of M2 Research. "The 'hit it and quit it' model -- carpet-bombing the market with sequels and then slashing the assets -- pays off big in the short term, so [Activision's] shareholders are happy."
Anybody else feel like taking a hatchet to the Activision board of directors.
This paragraph just said that their marketing strategy was to shamelessly rip-off their devoted customers.
That's basically fraud.

There's no suggestion that the Call of Duty franchise is immune to a similar downfall, but the general consensus is that as long as Activision maintains a high level of quality and keeps its online audience engaged, all will be well. "This is a franchise that has increased in sales every year for the past six or seven years and has consolidated market share in the process," said Colin Sebastian of Lazard Capital Markets. "Could Activision mess it up? Sure, but if they focus on maintaining high game quality, fresh story-lines, and online multiplayer, then I don't see an obvious reason for the franchise to decline."
Wow. That is the worst lie I've read since the last time Fox News was on.
Activision needs to go out of business right now.
 

Eri

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Tdc2182 said:
Eri said:
Tdc2182 said:
Eri said:
Uh, too bad it already has? At the rate they've come out, they've already guitar hero'd the franchise. Good or not.
What are you talking about?

This was the highest sold CoD game in the franchise, not to mention the highest sold video game of all time.
They flooded the market with CoD games. There's already an absurd number of them. That's all I mean.
Clearly you are not involved with the CoD series. We still want them and they tend to come out at the perfect times when people start to get bored with them
People start to get bored because it is basically the same game over again. It will only get boring faster the longer they keep coming out.
 

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DaHero said:
We need a documentary showing the migration of the CoD fanboy base moving annually from one mediocre yearly release of the franchise to another. Oh and it will be voiced by Morgan Freeman. Along the way they'll clash with the Bieber fangirls just to make it interesting...just saying.
Call of Duty and Justin Beiber are the devil!
 

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What I don't get is how some people (read: most people) can pick the game up just for multiplayer. Is the multiplayer in blops really so different from MW 1 & 2 that it's worth getting the game just for that? I'm not a huge fan of multiplayer, so I don't play it much, but even from an outside perspective, it looks exactly the same in all the games, plus or minus a few different maps and weapons, and I just don't understand why people would buy a game just for that.
 

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I don't see how this analyst can say that strip-mining franchises is a good thing, not with the way Activision reviles fresh IPs. Activision refuses to invest in anything that isn't a bankable franchise, they then suck every last dollar from reliable cash-cows. The problem is, once the franchise dies (which it definitely will) they invest all their money into the next biggest, pre-existing IP. This, coupled with their refusal it innovate or take risks, will eventually leave them with a bunch of dead franchises, and nothing to invest in. They really need to get rid of Bobby Kotick, he is driving the company into the ground, when this does happen, Kotick will leap off the crippled company with his golden parachute.
 

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Oho, yes it will! It WILL FALL.
Not today, and probably not for several years, but people will eventually get tired of it.
 

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They basically released Guitar hero games so fast that it got old... First two were ok, but then... Meh by the third one it got old real quick.

The sales analysts are both correct, and incorrect. The FPS shooter genre is still going good because they get an equal flow of new gamers to leaving gamers in shooters.

What they forget to mention is you can't take how a GENRE functions and apply it to a FRANCHISE. Call of Duty takes its time in releasing games, but they've seriously gone downhill, and we all know how senseless violence turns out for games... Great short term sales but drives off the big spenders. I remember the 2nd call of duty, it was a great game where you actually felt a small sense of nationalistic pride while playing, but now that they are improvising instead of basing them off of events, the games are getting more and more ridiculous.

Call of Duty will fall, and it will not be a gracious decent because this is activision we're talking about here. They milk it for all its worth then throw it out... I suspect black ops was its biggest hit, and it will likely get about 3-4 more games out if even that before the consumers get bored

Course the thing about FPS shooters is that when one game series dies, you can litterally take everything about it and re-make it into a new game with a different storyline and different systems to make it feel original. Heck, if you look at the history of FPS games they are extremely similar aside from the occasional "stealth" mode or "weapons system." (and because I know someone will misquote me, let me verify that there are occasionally acceptions to this rule of thumb, so don't go into a bashing spree.)
 

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SupahGamuh said:
DaHero said:
We need a documentary showing the migration of the CoD fanboy base moving annually from one mediocre yearly release of the franchise to another. Oh and it will be voiced by Morgan Freeman. Along the way they'll clash with the Bieber fangirls just to make it interesting...just saying.
Call of Duty and Justin Beiber are the devil!
Not really, Bieber is a victim of Hollywood's glamor and glitz while CoD is a victim of fanbase communities that insist floating in the air while jumping in their game is realistic but Mario isn't. Honestly I think of the CoD series forced more logical movement/actions they would fall apart because they wouldn't be a fancy Counter Strike anymore. Wouldn't take a lot...just force the character to actually jump...instead of float. Maybe hold down the jump key to coil the leg muscles? Same with walking, moving slowly at first but not actually moving until that foot is in front of you...like actual walking. Scopes? Two words: Random Zoom. The scope would randomly zoom in within reason, making snipers have to line up the shots instead of the illogical and quite frankly ridiculous no-scoping. I'm not saying anywhere, just randomly within the reticule of what is a regular un-zoomed sniper scope.