Anarchists?

[The Stonker]

Why abolish order?
Since most of the time today it's order and law which protects the weak.
Would you like to revert back?
I didn't think so.

Anarchy is for people who don't quite understand politics.

can we please stop making assumptions like this? It would be real easy for me to say that supporting the government is for people afraid of living in the real world.
Anarchy is for me, and I do understand politics. Maybe your the one that doesn't. We do not pick our leaders, corporations do. We get to vote and when those votes do count, it's pointless because everyone you are allowed to vote for is always a liar. We have come to learn this by now, they are all liars.

Our system does not protect the weak. If you really believe that, get your head out of the TV and go out in the real world.
More goes on in the world than what you see on tv. People pulled over for no reason and being randomly searched for anything suspicious (such as books that seem slightly unpatriotic but not quite violent) and god help you if you so much as ask for a reason or tell them they need a warrant to search your vehicle.


Every day the walls are closing in around us, with every pointless law passed another freedom taken away and people like you want to mock anybody that thinks there's a problem.
I'm willing to respect your opinion, I was anyways but clearly people like you are unwilling to respect anyone elses so why should I even bother?

Oh! I can't stand democracy.
I know that I'm quite of a hippocrit for wanting freedom of speech and equal rights for all when I want to abolish your right to vote for people to rule the country.
I'm quite like Plato.
But the thing is that if you've noticed then people most of the time pick their leaders of values such as "I would drink a beer with this guy" and "he looks like a nice fella'".
But why not choose the people that have the knowledge to lead a country and are natural born leaders who have good hearts?
But on the other side you have freedom and all that, so how can we fix this?
How can we get the people that know what they're doing into control and aren't corrupted?

And of course you play that card.
Who said anything about free speech? What free speech are you talking about? A guy gets tazed on camera for asking a government official the "Wrong" question.
Democracy? It's a joke. We can't vote for anybody we want, only the ones certain people decided would be a good president. How is that democracy? It's just a dictatorship with many leaders.
We have elected leaders that have real knowledge, they screwed us. The only guy that wasn't screwing us and actually helping us was JFK, and look what happened to him.

We don't have freedom. Don't even tell me that joke, I've heard it before.

wow, I hope your being sarcastic because if you really believe that flag waving stuff you just posted...i pity you.
Yes we are so free, and we get to stay free as long as we do whatever our masters tell us.

Bwhahahaha.

I just said that we had no freedom and that in my case (Iceland)and that none of the political groups are smart enough to run a bloody country.
What I'm saying is that I would love to see a country just being lead by people that aren't of any of the usual political groups and are more of a "board" then a couple of groups with opposed opinions.
We would have a highly educated man in economics,social studies and so on.
But I despise people who look down on oters.
For it is I! DRACULA!

P.s.I respect everybody's political view and I would be glad to discuss about it.

 

[Crazycat690]

Well yes I think a bit of anarchy would be good for the world, no government, no countries, but still kind of societys, groups of people, if someone don't behave, throw him out or if it's something really bad kill him, I find it the better option than what we have today.

I live in Finland and here, laws give more rights to criminals than normal people, there was one local guy, 2 people was going to beat him up but he was stronger than them so he knocked them out, he was sent to prison because of it. If someone breaks into your house you can end up in prison if you defend yourself, you should have to just let him take everything you have and even murder your family, because if you kill him, you'll go to prison.

I'm not completly for anarchy, but I want the right to use the shotgun on someone who break into my house and threaten my family, I want to be able to put explosives on my mailbox in case someone decides to take a shit in it.

 

[The Stonker]

Why abolish order?
Since most of the time today it's order and law which protects the weak.
Would you like to revert back?
I didn't think so.

Anarchy is for people who don't quite understand politics.

can we please stop making assumptions like this? It would be real easy for me to say that supporting the government is for people afraid of living in the real world.
Anarchy is for me, and I do understand politics. Maybe your the one that doesn't. We do not pick our leaders, corporations do. We get to vote and when those votes do count, it's pointless because everyone you are allowed to vote for is always a liar. We have come to learn this by now, they are all liars.

Our system does not protect the weak. If you really believe that, get your head out of the TV and go out in the real world.
More goes on in the world than what you see on tv. People pulled over for no reason and being randomly searched for anything suspicious (such as books that seem slightly unpatriotic but not quite violent) and god help you if you so much as ask for a reason or tell them they need a warrant to search your vehicle.


Every day the walls are closing in around us, with every pointless law passed another freedom taken away and people like you want to mock anybody that thinks there's a problem.
I'm willing to respect your opinion, I was anyways but clearly people like you are unwilling to respect anyone elses so why should I even bother?

Oh! I can't stand democracy.
I know that I'm quite of a hippocrit for wanting freedom of speech and equal rights for all when I want to abolish your right to vote for people to rule the country.
I'm quite like Plato.
But the thing is that if you've noticed then people most of the time pick their leaders of values such as "I would drink a beer with this guy" and "he looks like a nice fella'".
But why not choose the people that have the knowledge to lead a country and are natural born leaders who have good hearts?
But on the other side you have freedom and all that, so how can we fix this?
How can we get the people that know what they're doing into control and aren't corrupted?

And of course you play that card.
Who said anything about free speech? What free speech are you talking about? A guy gets tazed on camera for asking a government official the "Wrong" question.
Democracy? It's a joke. We can't vote for anybody we want, only the ones certain people decided would be a good president. How is that democracy? It's just a dictatorship with many leaders.
We have elected leaders that have real knowledge, they screwed us. The only guy that wasn't screwing us and actually helping us was JFK, and look what happened to him.

We don't have freedom. Don't even tell me that joke, I've heard it before.

wow, I hope your being sarcastic because if you really believe that flag waving stuff you just posted...i pity you.
Yes we are so free, and we get to stay free as long as we do whatever our masters tell us.

Bwhahahaha.

I just said that we had no freedom and that in my case (Iceland)and that none of the political groups are smart enough to run a bloody country.
What I'm saying is that I would love to see a country just being lead by people that aren't of any of the usual political groups and are more of a "board" then a couple of groups with opposed opinions.
We would have a highly educated man in economics,social studies and so on.
But I despise people who look down on others.
For it is I! DRACULA!

Oh, my apologizes I think I misread your post or something.
In fact, I really don't think I really understood anything you said after that first post, but my point still stands.
You don't know every anarchist or anarchy supporter in the world so don't make ignorant assumptions like "they don't know politics" just because you don't understand that way of thinking.

I'm talking about a part of anarchists.
The people which were punks in the old days and are just there to cause a riot.
But we all know what Anarchism is.
It's when they want to abolish law and abolish the goverment, then it contradicts it self by saying that they want to run the country in some other way.
But I would love to hear how you would run a country like America in a state of anarchy.
Wouldn't you just revert back to a organized government?


Btw. JFK was a douchebag, he pushed the forced into Vietnam (when they didn't even need to go into Vietnam, they waren't even commnunists and that was the reason.)
Really don't see why so many people look so highly on him.

 

[TheHecatomb]

A tribe or community of about 100 people (if that) doesn't compare to a large government. Your looking at the labels and not the reality of it.
Yes it's still anarchy because the people get to choose how they want to live instead of following a strict set of arbitrary rules set by some "ruler" that has no right to be a god.

Don't be ridiculous. You're talking about dictatorship. A person claiming his position as ruler, most likely through force. I'm talking about collectively elected representatives, chosen by the people of the tribe, to give voice to their needs and beliefs. Which is a natural thing to happen as soon as the tribe reaches stable life conditions and a certain population
And that's the core definition of democracy. Consequently, any political system that does not follow this, I will not call democracy. You can whine about labels, but they were put there for a reason: to identify several completely different things. Something which seems to elude you, yet you feel you should rebel against it.

I can't believe you would miss the point this much. Read this, for the love of god read the sentence after THIS.
I am not saying anarchy will magically become democracy. That's just not how it works, if you believe it is, I cannot help you and I'm very sorry.

So now you're jumping from politics to religion? How does that have to do anything with this? I'm not here to discuss the love of God, as it will likely get me banned, nor do I need to be helped. So keep these useless dramatics out of it.

The difference between having countless tribes and having one government is that the one government decides what we can and cannot do. If you don't like the rules of a certain tribe, you can just start your own.
Seriously, are you just trying to twist my words or are you actually trying to learn something? Why am I even asking? It's obvious you just want to pick out any little thing you can attack. Doesn't mater that a tribe isn't close to being a fascist world superpower, to you it's the same thing because the definition is somehow similar to you.

One government that decides what the people can do? Really laddie, I'm starting to suspect you're not even legally allowed to vote yet. Nor that you know the difference between any type of political or governmential system. Once again you seem to think that ANY type of government automatically means dictatorship instead of (for instance) democracy, and if you really can't look beyond that then I don't think you should be wasting my time in this thread. Besides, people have the possibility of migrating to other countries with other political systems now, too. Why would you need this thing you subbornly confuse with "anarchy" to do that?
I'm not here to attack you, but I do think you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. And yet you do seem to idealize some brainfart that all government is evil, and that it involves people acting as if they're gods and subsequently think they can control your life. And I think you should get over that, because it's childish. Go pick some flowers or something, I'm done with you.

 

[The-Jake]

The profit motive is nothing but destructive, and your wealth is stolen from people elsewhere through various kinds of imperialism or colonialism.

Wealth is not zero-sum. Making yourself more wealthy does not necessarily entail making others less wealthy. Certainly it happens, which is evidence that the market is not always right, but leaping from there to "The profit motive is always destructive no exceptions" is just another perfect solution fallacy.

what unlimited power? We are talking about every man and woman being on equal ground. From that point on, one man cannot have ultimate power. It's just plain impossible without very good knowledge in....everything. Seriously, the guy would have to be the highlander.

1) I guess my wording was confusing. Let's go with "unchecked" power, then. 2) Everyone cannot be on equal ground with everyone else even under the most ideal conditions, because everyone is not equally smart, equally hardworking, equally moral, et cetera.

and if you really think anything that's not chaos is instantly government

I didn't argue that !chaos == government.

Rapists and killers are nothing? Really? I guess that was just my crazy belief, I guess I thought people that took joy out of torture and murder were the worst of the worst but I guess it's the guys that seek superpowers. Silly me, I always thought those were just make believe.

Straw man. Rapists and killers are nothing in comparison to those with the will to power. I honestly didn't predict you'd find this controversial, since power-willers frequently go hand-in-hand with murder and rape. Again, I'm sorry my choice of phrase confused you into thinking I was talking about superpowers.

I never said all tribes were peaceful hippy communes. I was simply pointing out that tribalism is not a bad thing.

And I never said that tribalism isn't a good thing; just that it's not the most desirable for me or for the majority.

You can talk down to your poeple all you want but those "Savages" as you called them

I never called real people "savages". I used the phrase, "Noble Savage", which has completely different connotations.

lived a more fuffilling and hardworking life in one week than anybody here (including me) in their entire lives.

Flatly false.

You asked where I'm from, The U.S. Don't even try to claim what I said wasn't true. In this country, you have to be careful with certain beliefs. You can be locked up in a "hospital" for so much as thinking the wrong way.

I literally have no idea what you're talking about. I'm not pretending ignorance for rhetorical effect.

I also love that part where you call me immature for wanting to die. Your right, I'm such an immature brat for not enjoying this pointless life more.

Arguing this way is kinda bratty.

Psychoanalyzing those that disagree with you is the mark of a narrow minded person.

I don't agree, but I don't see how this subject is relevant, since I don't remember trying to psychoanalyse you.

We do not pick our leaders, corporations do. We get to vote and when those votes do count, it's pointless because everyone you are allowed to vote for is always a liar. [snip] Our system does not protect the weak.

We can't vote for anybody we want, only the ones certain people decided would be a good president. How is that democracy? It's just a dictatorship with many leaders. [snip] We don't have freedom. Don't even tell me that joke, I've heard it before. [snip] Yes we are so free, and we get to stay free as long as we do whatever our masters tell us.

The conclusions of perfect solution fallacies, all. That our system is not flawless does not mean that we live in a dystopia.

We have come to learn this by now, they are all liars.

Nnno we haven't. Some are liars, but your position is a Knowledge-Through-Evidence-abandoning conspiracy theory.

A guy gets tazed on camera for asking a government official the "Wrong" question.

He wasn't tazed just for the question he asked.

The difference between having countless tribes and having one government is that the one government decides what we can and cannot do. If you don't like the rules of a certain tribe, you can just start your own. [snip] A government is something that you are forced to abide by the rules of if you are born into it, a tribe doesn't work this way.

There are these little things you may have heard of called "other countries" and "immigration and emigration".

derelix, I greatly enjoyed your earlier posts, when you were being lucid, rather than your later ones that are skirting uncomfortably close to conspiracy theory logic.

also jesus christ you guys you don't have to quote someone's entire post to reply to them
if we all did that the thread size would grow quadratically

 

[Anchupom]

I quite like anarchy as a concept.
Both the true meaning of anarchy and the punk interpretation, circa 1985.

It does fall flat on its face when only a few people commit to it though...

 

[The Stonker]

Why abolish order?
Since most of the time today it's order and law which protects the weak.
Would you like to revert back?
I didn't think so.

Anarchy is for people who don't quite understand politics.

can we please stop making assumptions like this? It would be real easy for me to say that supporting the government is for people afraid of living in the real world.
Anarchy is for me, and I do understand politics. Maybe your the one that doesn't. We do not pick our leaders, corporations do. We get to vote and when those votes do count, it's pointless because everyone you are allowed to vote for is always a liar. We have come to learn this by now, they are all liars.

Our system does not protect the weak. If you really believe that, get your head out of the TV and go out in the real world.
More goes on in the world than what you see on tv. People pulled over for no reason and being randomly searched for anything suspicious (such as books that seem slightly unpatriotic but not quite violent) and god help you if you so much as ask for a reason or tell them they need a warrant to search your vehicle.


Every day the walls are closing in around us, with every pointless law passed another freedom taken away and people like you want to mock anybody that thinks there's a problem.
I'm willing to respect your opinion, I was anyways but clearly people like you are unwilling to respect anyone elses so why should I even bother?

Oh! I can't stand democracy.
I know that I'm quite of a hippocrit for wanting freedom of speech and equal rights for all when I want to abolish your right to vote for people to rule the country.
I'm quite like Plato.
But the thing is that if you've noticed then people most of the time pick their leaders of values such as "I would drink a beer with this guy" and "he looks like a nice fella'".
But why not choose the people that have the knowledge to lead a country and are natural born leaders who have good hearts?
But on the other side you have freedom and all that, so how can we fix this?
How can we get the people that know what they're doing into control and aren't corrupted?

And of course you play that card.
Who said anything about free speech? What free speech are you talking about? A guy gets tazed on camera for asking a government official the "Wrong" question.
Democracy? It's a joke. We can't vote for anybody we want, only the ones certain people decided would be a good president. How is that democracy? It's just a dictatorship with many leaders.
We have elected leaders that have real knowledge, they screwed us. The only guy that wasn't screwing us and actually helping us was JFK, and look what happened to him.

We don't have freedom. Don't even tell me that joke, I've heard it before.

wow, I hope your being sarcastic because if you really believe that flag waving stuff you just posted...i pity you.
Yes we are so free, and we get to stay free as long as we do whatever our masters tell us.

Bwhahahaha.

I just said that we had no freedom and that in my case (Iceland)and that none of the political groups are smart enough to run a bloody country.
What I'm saying is that I would love to see a country just being lead by people that aren't of any of the usual political groups and are more of a "board" then a couple of groups with opposed opinions.
We would have a highly educated man in economics,social studies and so on.
But I despise people who look down on others.
For it is I! DRACULA!

Oh, my apologizes I think I misread your post or something.
In fact, I really don't think I really understood anything you said after that first post, but my point still stands.
You don't know every anarchist or anarchy supporter in the world so don't make ignorant assumptions like "they don't know politics" just because you don't understand that way of thinking.

I'm talking about a part of anarchists.
The people which were punks in the old days and are just there to cause a riot.
But we all know what Anarchism is.
It's when they want to abolish law and abolish the goverment, then it contradicts it self by saying that they want to run the country in some other way.
But I would love to hear how you would run a country like America in a state of anarchy.

More assumptions, how original.
I don't want to run america. This may suprise you, but your not as all knowing as you seem to think. You don't understand people as well as you think.
The punks your talking about don't even know what anarchy is, they just want to break shit. I know who your talking about, the black flag waving, cop car burning, small business destroying spoiled brats.
Sure, assume I'm just like them. I suppose using your logic I can assume you support the government (because it's so easy to figure people out that you never bothered to have a conversation with) and from that, I can say that anybody that supports the government just hates Jews. Oh but not all of them, I was just referring to that small group called the Nazis that wanted to kill the Jews for their country.

So why do you hate the jews?
I'm sure you didn't get it so I'll help, I'm using the same logic you used and applying it to you and your beliefs. Isn't that fun? I see why you would do it. Way easier than asking questions or getting to know a person, just assume you know them based on things you see online.

Godwin's law.
Something tells me that you're a troll.

But for a last statement.
I like the concept behind Anarchy but I wouldn't want it. Because I quite like having police and a functioning government.
You've proposed no arguement towards your point, only illogical attacks on the other people who are talking about anarchy and I think most of the escapist quite disagree with your opinions and anarchy in general.

Good day.

 

[TheHecatomb]

we

There's your fundamental flaw right there.

 

[sheah1]

Anyone else hear about the girl in america who was charged with trying to make an "anarchist group" in an american school? I laughed my bloody arse off.

 

[The Stonker]

Why abolish order?
Since most of the time today it's order and law which protects the weak.
Would you like to revert back?
I didn't think so.

Anarchy is for people who don't quite understand politics.

can we please stop making assumptions like this? It would be real easy for me to say that supporting the government is for people afraid of living in the real world.
Anarchy is for me, and I do understand politics. Maybe your the one that doesn't. We do not pick our leaders, corporations do. We get to vote and when those votes do count, it's pointless because everyone you are allowed to vote for is always a liar. We have come to learn this by now, they are all liars.

Our system does not protect the weak. If you really believe that, get your head out of the TV and go out in the real world.
More goes on in the world than what you see on tv. People pulled over for no reason and being randomly searched for anything suspicious (such as books that seem slightly unpatriotic but not quite violent) and god help you if you so much as ask for a reason or tell them they need a warrant to search your vehicle.


Every day the walls are closing in around us, with every pointless law passed another freedom taken away and people like you want to mock anybody that thinks there's a problem.
I'm willing to respect your opinion, I was anyways but clearly people like you are unwilling to respect anyone elses so why should I even bother?

Oh! I can't stand democracy.
I know that I'm quite of a hippocrit for wanting freedom of speech and equal rights for all when I want to abolish your right to vote for people to rule the country.
I'm quite like Plato.
But the thing is that if you've noticed then people most of the time pick their leaders of values such as "I would drink a beer with this guy" and "he looks like a nice fella'".
But why not choose the people that have the knowledge to lead a country and are natural born leaders who have good hearts?
But on the other side you have freedom and all that, so how can we fix this?
How can we get the people that know what they're doing into control and aren't corrupted?

And of course you play that card.
Who said anything about free speech? What free speech are you talking about? A guy gets tazed on camera for asking a government official the "Wrong" question.
Democracy? It's a joke. We can't vote for anybody we want, only the ones certain people decided would be a good president. How is that democracy? It's just a dictatorship with many leaders.
We have elected leaders that have real knowledge, they screwed us. The only guy that wasn't screwing us and actually helping us was JFK, and look what happened to him.

We don't have freedom. Don't even tell me that joke, I've heard it before.

wow, I hope your being sarcastic because if you really believe that flag waving stuff you just posted...i pity you.
Yes we are so free, and we get to stay free as long as we do whatever our masters tell us.

Bwhahahaha.

I just said that we had no freedom and that in my case (Iceland)and that none of the political groups are smart enough to run a bloody country.
What I'm saying is that I would love to see a country just being lead by people that aren't of any of the usual political groups and are more of a "board" then a couple of groups with opposed opinions.
We would have a highly educated man in economics,social studies and so on.
But I despise people who look down on others.
For it is I! DRACULA!

Oh, my apologizes I think I misread your post or something.
In fact, I really don't think I really understood anything you said after that first post, but my point still stands.
You don't know every anarchist or anarchy supporter in the world so don't make ignorant assumptions like "they don't know politics" just because you don't understand that way of thinking.

I'm talking about a part of anarchists.
The people which were punks in the old days and are just there to cause a riot.
But we all know what Anarchism is.
It's when they want to abolish law and abolish the goverment, then it contradicts it self by saying that they want to run the country in some other way.
But I would love to hear how you would run a country like America in a state of anarchy.

More assumptions, how original.
I don't want to run america. This may suprise you, but your not as all knowing as you seem to think. You don't understand people as well as you think.
The punks your talking about don't even know what anarchy is, they just want to break shit. I know who your talking about, the black flag waving, cop car burning, small business destroying spoiled brats.
Sure, assume I'm just like them. I suppose using your logic I can assume you support the government (because it's so easy to figure people out that you never bothered to have a conversation with) and from that, I can say that anybody that supports the government just hates Jews. Oh but not all of them, I was just referring to that small group called the Nazis that wanted to kill the Jews for their country.

So why do you hate the jews?
I'm sure you didn't get it so I'll help, I'm using the same logic you used and applying it to you and your beliefs. Isn't that fun? I see why you would do it. Way easier than asking questions or getting to know a person, just assume you know them based on things you see online.

Godwin's law.
Something tells me that you're a troll.

But for a last statement.
I like the concept behind Anarchy but I wouldn't want it. Because I quite like having police and a functioning government.
You've proposed no arguement towards your point, only illogical attacks on the other people who are talking about anarchy and I think most of the escapist quite disagree with your opinions and anarchy in general.

Good day.

What is wrong with you? I'm the troll? I just explained to you that the comment was to prove a point.
You made an ignorant assumption about me so I did the same thing. I'm a troll for doing that? Than I suppose you are too, right?
I didn't come here to attack but your post was an obvious attack.
Go read what you posted if you don't believe me.

You said anybody that want anarchy don't understand politics. If you can ignorantly insult anybody that disagrees with you like that, how am I worse for defending my beliefs?

People like you remind me of why I want it. People like you are flooding this planet. Your not even human, your byproduct. All you do is ***** and complain and talk out of your ass.

The only thing that keeps me happy is the thought that one day every single parasite on this planet will die.

I'm sick of trying to discuss this shit with people that only want to attack. None of us will ever do anything remotely important or even helpful for this world. All I was trying to explain is that a world without borders, nations, and laws wouldn't be complete chaos. It could actually be a good thing for some people. but it's pointless because it will never happen. Revolution is dead. I'm glad your happy on this pathetic planet, at least some of you slaves are domesticated little guys. I'd rather die than live in this sick fucking world for another year.

Sick of being treated like a kid even after I got a fucking job and worked my ass off to give handouts to every asshole that asked because I'm such a fucking pushover.

I promise you guys something though, all of you. Every living person in this pathetic generation we are all a part of. Soon, when I finally end it, and I will regardless of what you smart ass pricks may be thinking, if you know it all nihilists are wrong and there really is life after death, a way to exist as energy in the universe, I swear I will give this world everything I have. I'll whisper sick things in your ears for the rest of your lives, fill your head with horrible thoughts that will never leave your mind, and cause as much suffering for this world that I can after death.

Now that's something to look forward too, fuck this childish political BS.


Sorry I even got involved, it was a pointless topic to begin with and only reminded me of why I quit dealing with other humans in the first place.

You can call me crazy and stupid if you want people, just remember that all things are connected and one day every person this fucked up species turned insane will be back in some form. Everything that is sent is also returned.

Maybe your kids (if you even have any) will end up as crazy as me, if so you know who to thank


-Demowargis-

So I'm not human?
So I'm not a homo sapiens?
You're not even making any sense.
Suddenly you've started mixing the afterlife into this discussion.
But really, ending your life is never a great decision because you don't even know what will happen to you in the future.
You might even meet the woman or if you roll on that side man that you will love.
You probably haven't lived life, because no one should end their lives, (because you sound like you want to take your life).
So even if we don't agree with each other then don't be so upset, we can always discuss this in a normal manner.

Btw.Facism in theory is good as well, might even work out if any country would try it out.

 

[The Stonker]

Why abolish order?
Since most of the time today it's order and law which protects the weak.
Would you like to revert back?
I didn't think so.

Anarchy is for people who don't quite understand politics.

can we please stop making assumptions like this? It would be real easy for me to say that supporting the government is for people afraid of living in the real world.
Anarchy is for me, and I do understand politics. Maybe your the one that doesn't. We do not pick our leaders, corporations do. We get to vote and when those votes do count, it's pointless because everyone you are allowed to vote for is always a liar. We have come to learn this by now, they are all liars.

Our system does not protect the weak. If you really believe that, get your head out of the TV and go out in the real world.
More goes on in the world than what you see on tv. People pulled over for no reason and being randomly searched for anything suspicious (such as books that seem slightly unpatriotic but not quite violent) and god help you if you so much as ask for a reason or tell them they need a warrant to search your vehicle.


Every day the walls are closing in around us, with every pointless law passed another freedom taken away and people like you want to mock anybody that thinks there's a problem.
I'm willing to respect your opinion, I was anyways but clearly people like you are unwilling to respect anyone elses so why should I even bother?

Oh! I can't stand democracy.
I know that I'm quite of a hippocrit for wanting freedom of speech and equal rights for all when I want to abolish your right to vote for people to rule the country.
I'm quite like Plato.
But the thing is that if you've noticed then people most of the time pick their leaders of values such as "I would drink a beer with this guy" and "he looks like a nice fella'".
But why not choose the people that have the knowledge to lead a country and are natural born leaders who have good hearts?
But on the other side you have freedom and all that, so how can we fix this?
How can we get the people that know what they're doing into control and aren't corrupted?

And of course you play that card.
Who said anything about free speech? What free speech are you talking about? A guy gets tazed on camera for asking a government official the "Wrong" question.
Democracy? It's a joke. We can't vote for anybody we want, only the ones certain people decided would be a good president. How is that democracy? It's just a dictatorship with many leaders.
We have elected leaders that have real knowledge, they screwed us. The only guy that wasn't screwing us and actually helping us was JFK, and look what happened to him.

We don't have freedom. Don't even tell me that joke, I've heard it before.

wow, I hope your being sarcastic because if you really believe that flag waving stuff you just posted...i pity you.
Yes we are so free, and we get to stay free as long as we do whatever our masters tell us.

Bwhahahaha.

I just said that we had no freedom and that in my case (Iceland)and that none of the political groups are smart enough to run a bloody country.
What I'm saying is that I would love to see a country just being lead by people that aren't of any of the usual political groups and are more of a "board" then a couple of groups with opposed opinions.
We would have a highly educated man in economics,social studies and so on.
But I despise people who look down on others.
For it is I! DRACULA!

Oh, my apologizes I think I misread your post or something.
In fact, I really don't think I really understood anything you said after that first post, but my point still stands.
You don't know every anarchist or anarchy supporter in the world so don't make ignorant assumptions like "they don't know politics" just because you don't understand that way of thinking.

I'm talking about a part of anarchists.
The people which were punks in the old days and are just there to cause a riot.
But we all know what Anarchism is.
It's when they want to abolish law and abolish the goverment, then it contradicts it self by saying that they want to run the country in some other way.
But I would love to hear how you would run a country like America in a state of anarchy.

More assumptions, how original.
I don't want to run america. This may suprise you, but your not as all knowing as you seem to think. You don't understand people as well as you think.
The punks your talking about don't even know what anarchy is, they just want to break shit. I know who your talking about, the black flag waving, cop car burning, small business destroying spoiled brats.
Sure, assume I'm just like them. I suppose using your logic I can assume you support the government (because it's so easy to figure people out that you never bothered to have a conversation with) and from that, I can say that anybody that supports the government just hates Jews. Oh but not all of them, I was just referring to that small group called the Nazis that wanted to kill the Jews for their country.

So why do you hate the jews?
I'm sure you didn't get it so I'll help, I'm using the same logic you used and applying it to you and your beliefs. Isn't that fun? I see why you would do it. Way easier than asking questions or getting to know a person, just assume you know them based on things you see online.

Godwin's law.
Something tells me that you're a troll.

But for a last statement.
I like the concept behind Anarchy but I wouldn't want it. Because I quite like having police and a functioning government.
You've proposed no arguement towards your point, only illogical attacks on the other people who are talking about anarchy and I think most of the escapist quite disagree with your opinions and anarchy in general.

Good day.

What is wrong with you? I'm the troll? I just explained to you that the comment was to prove a point.
You made an ignorant assumption about me so I did the same thing. I'm a troll for doing that? Than I suppose you are too, right?
I didn't come here to attack but your post was an obvious attack.
Go read what you posted if you don't believe me.

You said anybody that want anarchy don't understand politics. If you can ignorantly insult anybody that disagrees with you like that, how am I worse for defending my beliefs?

People like you remind me of why I want it. People like you are flooding this planet. Your not even human, your byproduct. All you do is ***** and complain and talk out of your ass.

The only thing that keeps me happy is the thought that one day every single parasite on this planet will die.

I'm sick of trying to discuss this shit with people that only want to attack. None of us will ever do anything remotely important or even helpful for this world. All I was trying to explain is that a world without borders, nations, and laws wouldn't be complete chaos. It could actually be a good thing for some people. but it's pointless because it will never happen. Revolution is dead. I'm glad your happy on this pathetic planet, at least some of you slaves are domesticated little guys. I'd rather die than live in this sick fucking world for another year.

Sick of being treated like a kid even after I got a fucking job and worked my ass off to give handouts to every asshole that asked because I'm such a fucking pushover.

I promise you guys something though, all of you. Every living person in this pathetic generation we are all a part of. Soon, when I finally end it, and I will regardless of what you smart ass pricks may be thinking, if you know it all nihilists are wrong and there really is life after death, a way to exist as energy in the universe, I swear I will give this world everything I have. I'll whisper sick things in your ears for the rest of your lives, fill your head with horrible thoughts that will never leave your mind, and cause as much suffering for this world that I can after death.

Now that's something to look forward too, fuck this childish political BS.


Sorry I even got involved, it was a pointless topic to begin with and only reminded me of why I quit dealing with other humans in the first place.

You can call me crazy and stupid if you want people, just remember that all things are connected and one day every person this fucked up species turned insane will be back in some form. Everything that is sent is also returned.

Maybe your kids (if you even have any) will end up as crazy as me, if so you know who to thank


-Demowargis-

So I'm not human?
So I'm not a homo sapiens?
You're not even making any sense.
Suddenly you've started mixing the afterlife into this discussion.
But really, ending your life is never a great decision because you don't even know what will happen to you in the future.
You might even meet the woman or if you roll on that side man that you will love.
You probably haven't lived life, because no one should end their lives, (because you sound like you want to take your life).
So even if we don't agree with each other then don't be so upset, we can always discuss this in a normal manner.

Btw.Facism in theory is good as well, might even work out if any country would try it out.

I've moved beyond this discussion. This whole thing was just another wake up call.
Don't give me that shit, I heard it all before.
" oh don't kill yourself, give it a few years and you'll find somebody that you connect with"
There is no human being on this planet that I can connect with.
I'm like an alien, I have no connection with any of you people and whenever I try to socialize all I can do is attack people.
You think I'm a troll? You think I enjoy this? I fucking hate this. I actually wanted to be a normal poster but when I see a thing or hear a thing or see a thing I can't help myself from doing certain things and it drives me fucking insane.

Well, have you checked with a psychiatrist? Because well if everything makes you angry then you should check up with a psychologist, just check they could help.
But really, just calm down and let down your defenses.
Just smile and have a nice day.