...and at that moment I knew the game/franchise was dead.

[balladbird]

Minor side rant, but what is up with Japanese media (Americans sometimes too) with the whole badly done Humans Are Bastards or the "Real Monsters". Most of the time it's ham-fisted, barely makes sense, and the writer(s) either come off as misanthropic or delusional acting like they're making high quality art. If anything speaks more about them than any of the problems with humanity society. It's like they have something to say, but in reality the writers don't and come off as know-nothing-know-it-all, petty, try-hard teenagers shouting everyone sucks and here is why.

There are a few reasons for it, I would guess. From conservation being much more mainstream in japan, japan typically being more community-oriented than individualistic, or simply because, for whatever reason, the average piece of Japanese media tends to be significantly more blunt about its messages and themes than the average piece of western media.

That said, there are a few anime I've encountered that manage to have green messages and still manage to raise interesting points or complex discussions on the topic. If you ever find yourself lacking something to watch, give "Parasyte: The maxim" a watch. When the series gets to the point where characters ponder the origins of the titular parasitic creatures, it starts to look like the series is winding up for a great big "HUMANS ARE THE REAL MONSTERS" message, but then at the last minute it reveals a message that's actually quite a bit more nuanced and mature, that protecting the world is important, yes, but it's not evil to prioritize protecting the things you care about, and that all aspects of human nature are born from the same drives that inhabit all earth's creatures. Thus one cannot claim to love the earth if in the same breath they espouse hatred of humans, for humans are as much a child of the earth as any other.

I was pleasantly surprised. criminally underrated show

 

[BrawlMan]

There are a few reasons for it, I would guess. From conservation being much more mainstream in japan, japan typically being more community-oriented than individualistic, or simply because, for whatever reason, the average piece of Japanese media tends to be significantly more blunt about its messages and themes than the average piece of western media.

That said, there are a few anime I've encountered that manage to have green messages and still manage to raise interesting points or complex discussions on the topic. If you ever find yourself lacking something to watch, give "Parasyte: The maxim" a watch. When the series gets to the point where characters ponder the origins of the titular parasitic creatures, it starts to look like the series is winding up for a great big "HUMANS ARE THE REAL MONSTERS" message, but then at the last minute it reveals a message that's actually quite a bit more nuanced and mature, that protecting the world is important, yes, but it's not evil to prioritize protecting the things you care about, and that all aspects of human nature are born from the same drives that inhabit all earth's creatures. Thus one cannot claim to love the earth if in the same breath they espouse hatred of humans, for humans are as much a child of the earth as any other.

I was pleasantly surprised. criminally underrated show

I saw Parasyte on adult swim; it's an awesome show. It, and Monster did their themes better than most anime or Japanese games that try to tackle the message. My personal favorite green aseop stories are Princess Mononoke & Sonic CD. The former, because the film makes a point that it's not just the fault of man either, but the god/animal spirits contributing to the problem as well. Princess Mononoke had grey areas. It's what Avatar (2009) wishes it could be. The latter due to the subtly without insulting or talking down the audience. Sonic CD showcases it's message with looks and sounds no matter which version you prefer. The good futures will sound bright, cheerful, or harmonic, while the bad futures will sad, depressing, scary, or "extreme". The best part is that Sonic CD shows that machines and nature can work in harmony with each other in the good futures. This something most media on this type of subject choose to ignore or thinks it is impossible to accomplish. In 1993, Sonic proved them wrong.

 

[kilenem]

So I don't have to make another Thread can we also do, Games that Jumped the Shark.
For Pokemon Its, Heart Gold and Soul Silver, when you go back and time with the G.S ball to fight Giovanni. I don't know what is with the remakes but Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire, doubles down on Jumping the Shark with their post game content. You fly on a freaking Rayquazza to fight, Deoxys in outer space.

 

[Xprimentyl]

Final Fantasy 13. I felt like the game was masturbating and I was just there to watch

Wow, I always knew that game felt a little "off" to me and could never quite pin down what it was, but I read this statement and you nailed it; this is the perfect way to describe the experience of that game.

 

[rosac]

Games workshop killing off warhammer and then replacing it with age of sigmar. The franchise is literally dead for little to no reason.