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TizzytheTormentor said:
Veldt Falsetto said:
Just wondering, since Carley isn't there to tell Lee that he should tell the others about your past, how does the rest of the group take it if you don't (or rather can't) tell them when Lilly tries using it against you?

I chose Carley because she could handle a weapon (which comes in handy later) and she did help in the end (too bad Lilly did what she did.
You get chances throughout the game to be more honest with the guys you meet. If you take a more honest route and tell them as much about you as possible Kenny and his family are understandably upset but understand why you didn't tell them and Ben is just shocked. As far as I'm aware if you lied to Kenny or covered up your past he gets pretty angry at you but it's not the end of the world.

I've no doubt Carley is useful, I've read she actually helps you in combat, Doug doesn't but at the end of the day it doesn't affect gameplay as much as you'd think.
 

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Corven said:
Ben from the walking dead season 1, especially during his "I make dumbass mistakes that caused several peoples deaths but my family is dead so feel sorry for me" comment.

I was glad to let him drop.
Pretty much this. He was an annoying little shite of a person so when I got the opportunity to drop him, I said "Gladly!" to myself.

Aeris' death in FFVII (yes, it's cliché) was tough for me because I played it for the first time when I was 13, before I knew what happened to her. And she was the strongest in my party. Took me another 7 hours of grinding to be able to properly play the game.
 

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mitchell271 said:
Corven said:
Ben from the walking dead season 1, especially during his "I make dumbass mistakes that caused several peoples deaths but my family is dead so feel sorry for me" comment.

I was glad to let him drop.
Pretty much this. He was an annoying little shite of a person so when I got the opportunity to drop him, I said "Gladly!" to myself.

Aeris' death in FFVII (yes, it's cliché) was tough for me because I played it for the first time when I was 13, before I knew what happened to her. And she was the strongest in my party. Took me another 7 hours of grinding to be able to properly play the game.
Just realised I haven't answered the topic yet, you answered it for me. Aeris! I could not care less about her, not even slightly. I never felt like she had a personality in the slightest, didn't understand why Cloud was fawning over this girl he didn't know instead of Tifa. Man VII's cast had me totally ambivalent towards every single one of them, I just couldn't care about anyone but Tifa and maybe Red
 

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otakon17 said:
Iwata said:
So which characters were you most happy to see die/disappear in a game, despite the game trying its best to be all emotional and tragic about it?
Kai-Leng from Mass Effect 3 but for different reasons, because the game was trying to make him out to be this stone-cold killer badass that just doesn't give a fuck. Instead he came off to me as some whiny ***** that I shanked with glee the first chance I got(against a "No Renegade Actions" playthrough I might add).

Not only that, but that insufferable little prick introduced SPACE NINJAS to Mass Effect and was the template for that piece of shit overpowered petulant little prick, the Phantom. GOD I HATE THOSE FUCKERS! Shields and health WAY higher then what they should be for a 100lbs. woman? Check. An instant kill attack that breaks all lore in the game and it took a Geth Juggernaut to finally not be fearful of anymore? Check. An overpowered palm blaster that has unerring accuracy and virtually unparalleled damage when it was just supposed to be a harrying weapon? Check.

I hate those bitches and I hate Kai-Leng for being their progenitors and I was DAMN glad when I got to shove 8 inches of diamond hard, molten hot omni-gel blade into his guts.
Oh man. I hated him too. The initial fight he had with Thane seemed intriguing, but then he went full space ninja and I just couldn't accept that in a sci-fi game. Though, to be fair, by then I had pretty much accepted that the new writers had turned their sci-fi stuff into magic like every other bad writing team ever, so w/e.
 

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M from Skyfall. She was the worst Intelligence Service boss there ever was, fictional or otherwise.
Really? She was a pretty good boss in the rest of the movies. Even in Skyfall she was pretty much just unapologetic, which is understandable given her position. Though I guess pretty much everyone made some silly mistakes in that movie.

As for me...
Huh, this is surprisingly difficult. I guess I'm just a sap who gets attached to people far too easily. I even had difficulty with the kaidan-ashley choice in ME 1 the first time through. Maybe it was because I accidentally picked the dialogue choices to make ashley less xenophobic because I don't remember that being as huge a part of her personality as people say.
 

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TizzytheTormentor said:
Veldt Falsetto said:
TizzytheTormentor said:
Veldt Falsetto said:
Just wondering, since Carley isn't there to tell Lee that he should tell the others about your past, how does the rest of the group take it if you don't (or rather can't) tell them when Lilly tries using it against you?

I chose Carley because she could handle a weapon (which comes in handy later) and she did help in the end (too bad Lilly did what she did.
You get chances throughout the game to be more honest with the guys you meet. If you take a more honest route and tell them as much about you as possible Kenny and his family are understandably upset but understand why you didn't tell them and Ben is just shocked. As far as I'm aware if you lied to Kenny or covered up your past he gets pretty angry at you but it's not the end of the world.

I've no doubt Carley is useful, I've read she actually helps you in combat, Doug doesn't but at the end of the day it doesn't affect gameplay as much as you'd think.
Interestingly, Carley becomes more attached to Lee (to the point of romance even) but it ends abruptly and you can tell Katjaa you had feelings for her (if you so choose) as for Kenny, guy is cool, but he was such a ***** when I never agreed completely with him, he is also a hypocrite, lets kill the guy who MIGHT become a walker, but my son who is showing clear signs? Ignore it (I understand why, he was in denial and he cares for his family, but it certainly showed a lack of respect for other people)

As for Ben, I liked him well enough, a liability sure, but he was funny and he didn't mean any harm, when the time came, I accidentally let him go (was gonna save him, but panicked) Also, I heard he dies anyway (from playing Ep5, its when you are jumping off the little balcony, it was loosened when Kenny jumped, I assume Ben dies there from falling)

Lilly also got to me, why the hell do I have to be nice to her dad, the guy who tried to actually kill me over the people who aren't fucking assholes to me. Although I did want there to be a way to save the dad (maybe he would become nicer) I agreed with Kenny to kill him, since he might be a danger to others and especially Clem (he turns anyway right?)
Kenny constantly bitches if you don't 100% take his side all of the time at every chance he could possibly have a disagreement with someone, pisses me off loads.

Yeah I saved Ben, I tried to save everyone, that's just me I guess. Fat ass Kenny breaks the little balcony and Ben falls and gets himself impaled, Lee and Kenny go down to try and save him but when it's revealed he's dead anyway Kenny locks you out of the alley way and tells you to go save Clementine. With Kenny's last bullet he kills Ben to prevent him from becoming a walker, which was pretty emotional, though you don't see it you just hear a gunshot and assume they're both dead and Kenny softened up to Ben to save him.

God I sided with Lilly there, I tried to resuscitate Larry and the second he starts to move Kenny kills him with a salt lick on his own. I didn't blame Kenny for that though there was no option afterwards that would resonate with what I would say so I just said nothing and Kenny was a bit upset.

I always worked for the good of the group and the idea that I can save everyone so if any one member of the group was in trouble I would always side with them. At the end of the game I think everyone trusted me enough to do the right thing, Kenny was upset with me because we didn't see eye to eye 100% of the time but he came with because I always stood up for his family when they were in danger
 

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phoenixlink said:
an aversion to this was Lamar from GtaV i wanted to dump him as soon as i could i went out of my way to ignore him.
i wish i had the choice to let him die. His stay gansta attitude made me dislike him
Eh, Lamar was a piece of shit, but that's why he has to stick around. Franklin is not only a piece of shit, he's a piece of shit who thinks he's SO GREAT. Lamar serves to remind him (and the player) that these are the people you must deal with if you decide to be a thieving murderous dickhat. And I LIKE Franklin.
Squilookle said:
M from Skyfall. She was the worst Intelligence Service boss there ever was, fictional or otherwise.
How so?



I was glad to see Manny in GTAIV eat a bullet, though.
 

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So, uh, Arkham Spoilers and all

I was glad when something finally killed off the Joker. Why?because, well, he's the Joker. He can't be redeemed, and can't be kept locked up for one reason or another, and really, He gets stale after a while. Here's hoping he stays out of the rest of the series as well. Not that I'd be terribly surprised if they brought him back though. Batman: Arkham Zombies actually has a nice ring to it.
 

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otakon17 said:
Iwata said:
So which characters were you most happy to see die/disappear in a game, despite the game trying its best to be all emotional and tragic about it?
Kai-Leng from Mass Effect 3 but for different reasons, because the game was trying to make him out to be this stone-cold killer badass that just doesn't give a fuck. Instead he came off to me as some whiny ***** that I shanked with glee the first chance I got(against a "No Renegade Actions" playthrough I might add).

Not only that, but that insufferable little prick introduced SPACE NINJAS to Mass Effect and was the template for that piece of shit overpowered petulant little prick, the Phantom. GOD I HATE THOSE FUCKERS! Shields and health WAY higher then what they should be for a 100lbs. woman? Check. An instant kill attack that breaks all lore in the game and it took a Geth Juggernaut to finally not be fearful of anymore? Check. An overpowered palm blaster that has unerring accuracy and virtually unparalleled damage when it was just supposed to be a harrying weapon? Check.

I hate those bitches and I hate Kai-Leng for being their progenitors and I was DAMN glad when I got to shove 8 inches of diamond hard, molten hot omni-gel blade into his guts.
Can't agree more with that one. What annoyed me the most was that I usually didn't have the feeling that he got away because he was so badass or something else, he just got away because the game didn't let me get rid of him.
 

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TizzytheTormentor said:
Veldt Falsetto said:
TizzytheTormentor said:
Veldt Falsetto said:
TizzytheTormentor said:
Veldt Falsetto said:
Just wondering, since Carley isn't there to tell Lee that he should tell the others about your past, how does the rest of the group take it if you don't (or rather can't) tell them when Lilly tries using it against you?

I chose Carley because she could handle a weapon (which comes in handy later) and she did help in the end (too bad Lilly did what she did.
You get chances throughout the game to be more honest with the guys you meet. If you take a more honest route and tell them as much about you as possible Kenny and his family are understandably upset but understand why you didn't tell them and Ben is just shocked. As far as I'm aware if you lied to Kenny or covered up your past he gets pretty angry at you but it's not the end of the world.

I've no doubt Carley is useful, I've read she actually helps you in combat, Doug doesn't but at the end of the day it doesn't affect gameplay as much as you'd think.
Interestingly, Carley becomes more attached to Lee (to the point of romance even) but it ends abruptly and you can tell Katjaa you had feelings for her (if you so choose) as for Kenny, guy is cool, but he was such a ***** when I never agreed completely with him, he is also a hypocrite, lets kill the guy who MIGHT become a walker, but my son who is showing clear signs? Ignore it (I understand why, he was in denial and he cares for his family, but it certainly showed a lack of respect for other people)

As for Ben, I liked him well enough, a liability sure, but he was funny and he didn't mean any harm, when the time came, I accidentally let him go (was gonna save him, but panicked) Also, I heard he dies anyway (from playing Ep5, its when you are jumping off the little balcony, it was loosened when Kenny jumped, I assume Ben dies there from falling)

Lilly also got to me, why the hell do I have to be nice to her dad, the guy who tried to actually kill me over the people who aren't fucking assholes to me. Although I did want there to be a way to save the dad (maybe he would become nicer) I agreed with Kenny to kill him, since he might be a danger to others and especially Clem (he turns anyway right?)
Kenny constantly bitches if you don't 100% take his side all of the time at every chance he could possibly have a disagreement with someone, pisses me off loads.

Yeah I saved Ben, I tried to save everyone, that's just me I guess. Fat ass Kenny breaks the little balcony and Ben falls and gets himself impaled, Lee and Kenny go down to try and save him but when it's revealed he's dead anyway Kenny locks you out of the alley way and tells you to go save Clementine. With Kenny's last bullet he kills Ben to prevent him from becoming a walker, which was pretty emotional, though you don't see it you just hear a gunshot and assume they're both dead and Kenny softened up to Ben to save him.

God I sided with Lilly there, I tried to resuscitate Larry and the second he starts to move Kenny kills him with a salt lick on his own. I didn't blame Kenny for that though there was no option afterwards that would resonate with what I would say so I just said nothing and Kenny was a bit upset.

I always worked for the good of the group and the idea that I can save everyone so if any one member of the group was in trouble I would always side with them. At the end of the game I think everyone trusted me enough to do the right thing, Kenny was upset with me because we didn't see eye to eye 100% of the time but he came with because I always stood up for his family when they were in danger
Kenny was a supah-bro if you sided with him, but he really did want you to side with him ALL the time, don't get me wrong, I stood up to Larry at the store because Larry was being a jackass trying to throw a kid out for assuming he was bitten. I sided with him at the barn where he killed Larry (honestly, I didn't want Larry to die, but it really felt like a "him or us" situation and Larry did very little to earn any points in his favour.

Kenny came with me because I was with all the time, good and bad (to be fair, I found him in the right most times except for a few of his arguments with Lilly, who was bad because she bitched at me for not liking her ass-hole dad despite him trying to kill me at the pharmacy) although after killing Ben, he says you did it intentionally in front of fucking Clementine! When I called him out on it, he flat out says he doesn't care, I wish I could have at least socked him one!

Christa and Omid were probably the best characters for me, through my journey, I was good to them and even if we didn't agree on things, they cared for Lee and Clementine (as well as Kenny when he wasn't being a jerk)

Again, I like Kenny, but he really did grate if you weren't his yes man, made him more interesting and believable though.

Also, the Stranger, he can apparently live, how?
I straight up refused to kill Ben, even when he asked me to. It wasn't the right thing to do. Kenny was a jerk to Ben all the time, even if Ben was useless.

I liked Christa and Omid too, though was slightly suspicious of them at first.

I just checked the wiki and I don't think the Stranger can survive, either Lee or Clem kill him.
 

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Veldt Falsetto said:
mitchell271 said:
Corven said:
Ben from the walking dead season 1, especially during his "I make dumbass mistakes that caused several peoples deaths but my family is dead so feel sorry for me" comment.

I was glad to let him drop.
Pretty much this. He was an annoying little shite of a person so when I got the opportunity to drop him, I said "Gladly!" to myself.

Aeris' death in FFVII (yes, it's cliché) was tough for me because I played it for the first time when I was 13, before I knew what happened to her. And she was the strongest in my party. Took me another 7 hours of grinding to be able to properly play the game.
Just realised I haven't answered the topic yet, you answered it for me. Aeris! I could not care less about her, not even slightly. I never felt like she had a personality in the slightest, didn't understand why Cloud was fawning over this girl he didn't know instead of Tifa. Man VII's cast had me totally ambivalent towards every single one of them, I just couldn't care about anyone but Tifa and maybe Red
My first play through of VII I didn't really bother using Aeris much beyond times where I kind of had to, so when she bit it I just kinda went, "So.....that's bad?" and moved on. My save got corrupted near the end of the game, so when I played again I completely ignored her in all aspects, since I already knew she'd die.

Playing through Prototype hasn't yielded a particular person's death that I felt indifferent towards, but the fact that even the main character is a complete douche and monster means that I really don't feel any sympathy for him or his cause.
 

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otakon17 said:
Kai-Leng from Mass Effect 3 but for different reasons, because the game was trying to make him out to be this stone-cold killer badass that just doesn't give a fuck. Instead he came off to me as some whiny ***** that I shanked with glee the first chance I got(against a "No Renegade Actions" playthrough I might add).

Not only that, but that insufferable little prick introduced SPACE NINJAS to Mass Effect and was the template for that piece of shit overpowered petulant little prick, the Phantom. GOD I HATE THOSE FUCKERS! Shields and health WAY higher then what they should be for a 100lbs. woman? Check. An instant kill attack that breaks all lore in the game and it took a Geth Juggernaut to finally not be fearful of anymore? Check. An overpowered palm blaster that has unerring accuracy and virtually unparalleled damage when it was just supposed to be a harrying weapon? Check.

I hate those bitches and I hate Kai-Leng for being their progenitors and I was DAMN glad when I got to shove 8 inches of diamond hard, molten hot omni-gel blade into his guts.
By that point Kai Leng had unfortunately already killed Mass Effect for me though. So his death was nothing but a lingering stench left by his presence in the game.

And that fucking space ninja bullshit... Ugh. You know, Kai Leng could've just shot the Salarian counselor if he simply had a goddamn gun like everybody else in this universe. But no, his badass space ninja code demands he wields a sword. The fucking idiot.
 

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Casual Shinji said:
otakon17 said:
Kai-Leng from Mass Effect 3 but for different reasons, because the game was trying to make him out to be this stone-cold killer badass that just doesn't give a fuck. Instead he came off to me as some whiny ***** that I shanked with glee the first chance I got(against a "No Renegade Actions" playthrough I might add).

Not only that, but that insufferable little prick introduced SPACE NINJAS to Mass Effect and was the template for that piece of shit overpowered petulant little prick, the Phantom. GOD I HATE THOSE FUCKERS! Shields and health WAY higher then what they should be for a 100lbs. woman? Check. An instant kill attack that breaks all lore in the game and it took a Geth Juggernaut to finally not be fearful of anymore? Check. An overpowered palm blaster that has unerring accuracy and virtually unparalleled damage when it was just supposed to be a harrying weapon? Check.

I hate those bitches and I hate Kai-Leng for being their progenitors and I was DAMN glad when I got to shove 8 inches of diamond hard, molten hot omni-gel blade into his guts.
By that point Kai Leng had unfortunately already killed Mass Effect for me though. So his death was nothing but a lingering stench left by his presence in the game.

And that fucking space ninja bullshit... Ugh. You know, Kai Leng could've just shot the Salarian counselor if he simply had a goddamn gun like everybody else in this universe. But no, his badass space ninja code demands he wields a sword. The fucking idiot.
Wasn't sure who to quote for this bit, but Kai Leng is actually a part of the expanded universe. He was made a Spectre after killing a Krogan (You know the guys with armor-like hide, super strength, and can regenerate from damage) with a combat knife. He was legitimately a badass in the EU.
 

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Kopikatsu said:
Wasn't sure who to quote for this bit, but Kai Leng is actually a part of the expanded universe. He was made a Spectre after killing a Krogan (You know the guys with armor-like hide, super strength, and can regenerate from damage) with a combat knife. He was legitimately a badass in the EU.
Maybe so, but they should've have put him in the main series then, since most people aren't even aware of the expanded universe. I know I wasn't. Now he just comes across as some pathetic wannabe badass villain thrown in at the last minute, because the game lacks a traditional villain for you to square off against.

And then they try to inject him with some credit by having Anderson talk about how badass he is. Yeah, nice try, Bioware.
 

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Kopikatsu said:
Casual Shinji said:
otakon17 said:
Kai-Leng from Mass Effect 3 but for different reasons, because the game was trying to make him out to be this stone-cold killer badass that just doesn't give a fuck. Instead he came off to me as some whiny ***** that I shanked with glee the first chance I got(against a "No Renegade Actions" playthrough I might add).

Not only that, but that insufferable little prick introduced SPACE NINJAS to Mass Effect and was the template for that piece of shit overpowered petulant little prick, the Phantom. GOD I HATE THOSE FUCKERS! Shields and health WAY higher then what they should be for a 100lbs. woman? Check. An instant kill attack that breaks all lore in the game and it took a Geth Juggernaut to finally not be fearful of anymore? Check. An overpowered palm blaster that has unerring accuracy and virtually unparalleled damage when it was just supposed to be a harrying weapon? Check.

I hate those bitches and I hate Kai-Leng for being their progenitors and I was DAMN glad when I got to shove 8 inches of diamond hard, molten hot omni-gel blade into his guts.
By that point Kai Leng had unfortunately already killed Mass Effect for me though. So his death was nothing but a lingering stench left by his presence in the game.

And that fucking space ninja bullshit... Ugh. You know, Kai Leng could've just shot the Salarian counselor if he simply had a goddamn gun like everybody else in this universe. But no, his badass space ninja code demands he wields a sword. The fucking idiot.
Wasn't sure who to quote for this bit, but Kai Leng is actually a part of the expanded universe. He was made a Spectre after killing a Krogan (You know the guys with armor-like hide, super strength, and can regenerate from damage) with a combat knife. He was legitimately a badass in the EU.
Whatever he was in the EU (which, I will point out, is often the source of the worst ideas in many franchises), his inclusion in ME3 was just plain ridiculous. He would have served his purpose if he was just a souped-up cyborg coming after Shepard, but they had to make him a bloody ninja. Honestly, running up and stabbing someone with a sword is never as effective as just shooting them in the face with a shotgun. Also, his character design was stupid. He looked like he walked out of the set of some third rate anime and decided to wander about the Mass Effect universe. He's angsty, whiny, and despite how much the game hypes up his strength, he goes down so easily.

He killed a Krogan with a knife? Big deal. Shepard can kill them with his/her omnitool, heck, Thane has a bloody guide to killing them with your bare hands! Neither of them needed space magic, ninja powers, or an emo haircut to do that. Kai Leng (and what he represents) is one of the major reasons why that game sucked so much.