Kratos at the end of God of War 3. In the entire game, he was just acting as a spoiled brat and a sociopath. At least in the first one he had a clear objective and a reasonable reason to hate the antagonist; but by 3, he just killed everyone and everything in his path, regardless of his agenda. The entire narrative of the game was build to make me relate to him, and root for him, but for the last half, I just rooted for the Olympians.
By the time he kills himself all I could think was "about time" (not that it helped at all, since he has already turned the entire planet into a barren land). Too bad the ending didn't stick. I should have guess the designers would take the coward's way out.
What do you mean by the 'coward's way out'? It was well established in GoW1 that killing someone is basically meaningless since they just end up in Hades. Which Kratos has visited after being killed. More than once. His suicide was like...death number seven or something.
By the end of 3, Hades is pretty much merged with the earth, so going there would be extra meaningless.
At the end, Kratos figures out his entire quest for vengeance was instrumented by "greater powers" (whatever would be consider a greater power than the Olympians is beyond me) and Athena, as an agent of those powers, manipulated him to carry on his quest. Kratos, in one of the first displays of conscience in the entire game, decides he won't be a peon of those powers, and impales himself through the chest with the Sword of Olympus, finally killing himself, foiling Athena's schemes and putting an end to the story, until...
After the credits (what I mean by "the coward's way"), they show the place where Kratos killed himself, and where there was the body you can see a trail of blood leading into the ocean (heavily implying that he is not dead)
Kai-Leng from Mass Effect 3 but for different reasons, because the game was trying to make him out to be this stone-cold killer badass that just doesn't give a fuck. Instead he came off to me as some whiny ***** that I shanked with glee the first chance I got(against a "No Renegade Actions" playthrough I might add).
Not only that, but that insufferable little prick introduced SPACE NINJAS to Mass Effect and was the template for that piece of shit overpowered petulant little prick, the Phantom. GOD I HATE THOSE FUCKERS! Shields and health WAY higher then what they should be for a 100lbs. woman? Check. An instant kill attack that breaks all lore in the game and it took a Geth Juggernaut to finally not be fearful of anymore? Check. An overpowered palm blaster that has unerring accuracy and virtually unparalleled damage when it was just supposed to be a harrying weapon? Check.
I hate those bitches and I hate Kai-Leng for being their progenitors and I was DAMN glad when I got to shove 8 inches of diamond hard, molten hot omni-gel blade into his guts.
By that point Kai Leng had unfortunately already killed Mass Effect for me though. So his death was nothing but a lingering stench left by his presence in the game.
And that fucking space ninja bullshit... Ugh. You know, Kai Leng could've just shot the Salarian counselor if he simply had a goddamn gun like everybody else in this universe. But no, his badass space ninja code demands he wields a sword. The fucking idiot.
Wasn't sure who to quote for this bit, but Kai Leng is actually a part of the expanded universe. He was made a Spectre after killing a Krogan (You know the guys with armor-like hide, super strength, and can regenerate from damage) with a combat knife. He was legitimately a badass in the EU.
Actually, in the EU, he is such a broken badass it is not even funny... able to kill a team of Turian commandos barehanded and flawlessly, infiltrate Omega and a military compound and escape with both kneecaps shots, and fight and survive an ambush to a Reaper/Human (think Saren, but biotic and human).
So, not going to go with "I hated Kai Leng before it was cool", but yeah... His presence almost broke the EU to me.
Fiore DeRosa from Bravely Default. The chapter he's introduced has some of the darkest stuff in the whole game, and he's the mastermind of it all. I couldn't kill him enough.
OK, first off, I just want to say that Mass Effect came out in 2007. Do NOT ***** about spoilers.
So mine is in Mass Effect 1. I know people have said that if you talk to her enough, you find out that she's actually an OK person but....I've never seen that, so I still fucking hate Ashely. She is so goddamn racist. I mean, at least Tali (a)is only racist against a single race that (b) is unlike any species the galaxy is currently familiar with, and (c) she has the fucking genocide and mass-exodus of her people to draw her racism from. Ashely, on the other hand, has a problem with just about any race that isn't human, and her racism stems from good old-fashioned fear of things that don't look like her.
Also, she shot Wrex even though I'd calmed him down. You do NOT get to walk away from that. I nuked that ***** the first chance I got. I didn't even need to think about it.
Yeah, and they ALSO made her pretty much the hardest character to kill off in that scenario (apart from Shephard). Because apperantly, the developers really like Miranda. OH THOSE PARAGONS OF GOOD-DECISION MAKING!
Other than that - Udina. (He did die, right? It's been so long.) Mo-hubber had it coming, being an incredible, unreasonable bag of dicks in human form. How about *I, THE SAVIOR OF THE GALAXY* says eff you, you don't represent humans anymore! How about you give me the choice to pull my weight with the entire galaxy WHICH I GOSH DARN SAVED to get rid of that idiot? ARGHGHGHGHGHGH.
Kai-Leng from Mass Effect 3 but for different reasons, because the game was trying to make him out to be this stone-cold killer badass that just doesn't give a fuck. Instead he came off to me as some whiny ***** that I shanked with glee the first chance I got(against a "No Renegade Actions" playthrough I might add).
Not only that, but that insufferable little prick introduced SPACE NINJAS to Mass Effect and was the template for that piece of shit overpowered petulant little prick, the Phantom. GOD I HATE THOSE FUCKERS! Shields and health WAY higher then what they should be for a 100lbs. woman? Check. An instant kill attack that breaks all lore in the game and it took a Geth Juggernaut to finally not be fearful of anymore? Check. An overpowered palm blaster that has unerring accuracy and virtually unparalleled damage when it was just supposed to be a harrying weapon? Check.
I hate those bitches and I hate Kai-Leng for being their progenitors and I was DAMN glad when I got to shove 8 inches of diamond hard, molten hot omni-gel blade into his guts.
By that point Kai Leng had unfortunately already killed Mass Effect for me though. So his death was nothing but a lingering stench left by his presence in the game.
And that fucking space ninja bullshit... Ugh. You know, Kai Leng could've just shot the Salarian counselor if he simply had a goddamn gun like everybody else in this universe. But no, his badass space ninja code demands he wields a sword. The fucking idiot.
Wasn't sure who to quote for this bit, but Kai Leng is actually a part of the expanded universe. He was made a Spectre after killing a Krogan (You know the guys with armor-like hide, super strength, and can regenerate from damage) with a combat knife. He was legitimately a badass in the EU.
I just wanted to say that about halfway through ME3, I began to suspect he was part of the EU. I can't say why I thought that, I just got the same feeling I got from about 80% of Halo 4. It's a sense of having missed some information, but knowing that information was not in the preceding games. Anyway, it annoyed me even more. I don't like having required fucking reading for maximum appreciation of my videogame.
Every charactar of Fire emblem: awakening. I've never played any other fire emblem game and the gameplay seemed quite decent but seriously, fuck these people. They are all without exception irredeemably stupid, selfish, selfobsessed, whiny, incompetent pricks and whoever their subjects are deserve better than these morons as protectors and rulers. I fully expect whatever demon, charlatan or evil king they get next to do a better job than these ********. By mission eight I had them all suicide charge the enemy and I dropped the game. Congratulations Fire Emblem, you are the first game I have ever quit in spite of decent gameplay because I hated the charactars that much.
Call of Duty: Ghost spoilers ahead, but seriously how many of you play it for the single player?
The only time I can recall where I was actually happy, or at least "oh well, see you later," about a character death in a game was when you dad got killed in front of you in CoD: Ghosts. I just did not care, and I didn't really like him either. "A true patriot sacrifices his sons." Excuse me? And if your sons don't want to be that? The whole time, him and Hesh just seemed to be putting words in my mouth without asking for my opinion. I know this happens in every CoD game, but here it was just too much. Too military, too...I don't know how to describe it, but when he finally died, I was like, "Good. Can I escape now?"
OK, first off, I just want to say that Mass Effect came out in 2007. Do NOT ***** about spoilers.
So mine is in Mass Effect 1. I know people have said that if you talk to her enough, you find out that she's actually an OK person but....I've never seen that, so I still fucking hate Ashely. She is so goddamn racist. I mean, at least Tali (a)is only racist against a single race that (b) is unlike any species the galaxy is currently familiar with, and (c) she has the fucking genocide and mass-exodus of her people to draw her racism from. Ashely, on the other hand, has a problem with just about any race that isn't human, and her racism stems from good old-fashioned fear of things that don't look like her.
Also, she shot Wrex even though I'd calmed him down. You do NOT get to walk away from that. I nuked that ***** the first chance I got. I didn't even need to think about it.
I don't really get the hatred towards Ashley myself.
If you talk to her enough, you find out her grandfather was a general who surrendered to the Turians in the First Contact War. Making him the first human to surrender to an alien force. This placed a stigma on her family and she wasn't able to go up very far in the ranks because of it. So I can understand her being a little bitter against aliens.
Besides, she's not entirely racist. She criticizes the practices of Terra Firma and she works alongside aliens without complaining.
Sorry, but it kinda bugs me when people only take certain characters at face value and not understand the reasoning behind their views.
As for Wrex. Well... he survived on my first playthrough, so I didn't have a reason to leave her behind.
I can understand getting pissed at her for doing that though. Wrex is awesome.
I liked the ending since I was able to distance myself from the player character. He had gone completely coo-coo for cocoa puffs, he was not at all likeable and, I'm kind of disappointed there wasn't a way to have him just kill himself...unless that's what happens you chose to not shoot the mirror...
Isabela from Dragon Age 2...I couldn't figure out how to kill her but I know there has to be a way to murder that horrible, horrible character. We could have had Shale back...we could have had...ANYTHING that was non-human and wanted to murder everything...instead we got freaking Isabela.
Kaiden from Mass Effect. I selected the option to ditch him so fast, I imagine that the rest of the crew thought "Wow, you didn't even let them finish the Choice sentence." It's his voice, I can't stand the whininess factor permanently imprinted by Carth from Kotor.
I would've been the same but I found Ashley to be a bit of a pain in the ass too. So it wasn't a choice of "Who will you save and keep and cherish?" but rather "You can remove one thorn from your side but only one. Choose wisely".
agreed... i dunno if it was because they were the basic human characters, but god i was happy to at least kill one of them... Kaiden was just more whiney-annoying, and killing him off set up major angst for my F!Shep that i exploited like Archer after Barry Iced his Russian sweety...
lets see, aside from them? hrm, that's a toughy, there's a lot of death scenes i LIKED because i loved the characters and they were such bamf scenes (Digital Devil Saga 2 has the BEST death scenes i've ever seen... even that newbie guy i was supposed to hate but didn't really...) hrm... well there was when i was playing the Hernlock General in DA:O's darkspawn Chronicles... i had too much fun killing off people i liked...
that one chick from walking dead and benny... *wipes hand clean* good riddance... shoot my favorite character do ya, ya pricks -.-
suppose if there were any other death scenes of such people... i just didn't care enough about them to remember~
Ashley "I can't tell the people from the animals" Williams in Mass Effect 1.
There are no animals there you ignorant Earth First supporting bible basher.
Seriously, out of every character in the franchise she is the most perfectly suited to join Cerburus and yet she's (assuming you kept her around after Virmire for some reason) one of the few teammates who completly refuse to have any association with them.
Additionally there's no reason for her to be part of the crew in the first place. She was a garrison soldier on Eden Prime who's unit got wiped out. You save her and Anderson decides she could be really usefull for you and brings her aboard the ship, why!!! There is nothing unique about Ashley, and there is absolutly nothing that makes her useful as part of a Spectre's team that also includes a former elite Turian spec ops & top C-sec investigator, a Krogan Battlemaster, and a handpicked Alliance officer. I wasn't going to mention the Quarian on her gap year or the archeologist, but at least they bring specialised expertise.
Garrus in Mass Effect I was so glad I got to kill that thing god he was annoying. Then there is Kenny and his family in the walking dead I was pretty glad when they all died shooting Duck felt so satisfying I just wish I could have done it earlier the kids dead he got bitten lets just ditch his ass now. I was a bit annoyed I didnt get to shoot zombie Kenny.
CrimsonBlaze said:
Along with Snow, there is no point in having her in your party so long as you have Fang and Hope.
Not here to change your opinion of her but there is one very good reason why you should have her in your party and why she is not interchangeable and that is because she has access to the death spell which no one else gets and combined with the malboro wand (upgraded) and her own sabotage skill affinity it has a very good chance of activating which makes farming the giant turtle things much less of a chore and actually possible a lot earlier than it otherwise would be. Shes useless against the long gui though as they are immune to death best use Lightning and Fang then as they have the other two best ultimates imo.
Yeah, that's good and all, but I still go back to my original point: if you can't stand to be around a certain character, it's easy to push them aside and concentrate on other tactics, which still work well and make the game both enjoyable and challenging. Also, to simply have her around for that farming tactic still wouldn't be enough for me to let her on the team. The damage is already done.
This character, along with Snow Villiers (who is completely useless in every way possible) and Hope's personality for the first half of the game, were some of the absolute worst things about Final Fantasy XIII.
Seriously, they should have just let her go.
In terms of characterization, or lack there of, she is simply the stereotypical girl that wants to run away from her problems and not own up to her mistakes/responsibilities. Her only epiphany in the entire game is that she can't run away forever and still promptly refuses to own up to anything (until the end of the game when she and Fang sacrifice themselves). I was actually happy that she was gone at the end and sad that Fang, probably the best character in the game, had to go along with her.
Her appearance is nothing to really talk about either; stuck between school girl and fan service, it just makes her seem more immature than she should be. Also, her voice is so damn annoying. I wish I could stress this out more, but I cannot stand her voice.
For combat, she's easily interchangeable. She is defaulted as the Healer (or Medic paradigm), so naturally, she should be useful. Only everyone can become a Medic and having your characters switch to an all Medic group, or a Sentry-Medic strategy, will also do the trick. Okay, so maybe she could be a Ravager? Nope, Hope's the best Ravager in the game, plus Lightning and Sazh also serve as great Ravagers. Along with Snow, there is no point in having her in your party so long as you have Fang and Hope.
actually, if you take her limit break as an indicator, and the role that ONLY she can do for a good portion of the game, she's a saboteur. (also, for most of the game, only hope, vanille, and lightning can heal, and she is by far the best of the three, gaining access to curasa and curaja FAR earlier than hope (and lightning doesn't get them at all) (plus, even if you are telling me you grinded the few hundred thousand CP to make the other characters healers, she is still one of the best, since only her and hope are magic foused, everyone else focuses on STR except lightning who is balanced)
and an ungodly powerful one at that, she's the only character that can kill an adamantoise before the post-game thanks to that limit break, Death has a flat 1% chance to instakill an enemy that isn't immune to it, and increases by 1% per debuff on the target. Fang can debuff with slow, curse, deshell, deprotect, imperil, fog, pain, and daze, boosting that chance to 9% PER TURN. then you add vanille's saboteur bonus boosting the success rate of her spells, and the boost from the belladonna/malboro wand and she becomes INCREDIBLY overpowered.
oh, and adamantoises give you about 20x the CP of anything else at that level (and about 5-10x the endgame stuff) with a chance of dropping a platinum bar (sells for 150k gil, in a game where 10k before postgame is considered a fortune) or a trapezeohedron, an upgrade mat to create the ultimate weapons, which other than dropping from adamantoises, can only be bought for TWO MILLION GIL.
so yeah, she may be annoying, but christ, I can forgive that when she has about a 15% chance to kill an enemy with a FEW MILLION HP IN ONE HIT when the rest of your party is hitting in the region of thousands (oh and said enemies can oneshot the whole party within 5 seconds of starting the fight if you don't instantly summon hecatonchier), and as a reward give you 40k CP in an area where enemies give you 2k, and the chance of getting either 150k gil or an item worth 2M gil and give you access to ultimate weapons before finishing the game
as for snow, he's THE tank, he's the only character who can break 10k HP without using items before beating the final boss, far from useless (and good luck fighting neochu without either using snow to tank it's single target hits or vanille to abuse instant death)
and goddamnit, why do people have such a problem with hope for being a whiny ***** for the first part of the game? he just fled from being exiled to what people believed was basically hell, just watched his mother die, got turned into something that for most of his life believed was pure evil (because an insane girl convinced him to grow a pair and try and confront the guy who put his mother in danger) and given a choice of either "destroy the world or turn into a soulless yet still aware and horribly tormented husk", whilst being forced to flee for his life from the army and teamed up with the person who he believes got his mother killed (and said person's personality flaw is that he hides his own pain by being overly cheerful, giving the impression that he doesn't give a shit about hope's mother's death). All because he was in the wrong place at the wrong time (on holiday in bodhum with his mother). and he's doing all this as a 14 year old boy who just feels like dead weight when the only people he has left as allies are a highly trained soldier, a rebel leader, an insane australian lesbian who has taken to it all incredibly well, and a guy who at least seems fairly competent.
all in the space of about 2 hours. (it's actually mentioned by lightning near the end of the game "it's certainly been a week", and since it is nighttime by the time the party reaches the vile peaks, it implies that about half a day has passed (it was daytime in the cutscene where lightning and sazh free the people on the train)
I'd LOVE to see anyone calling hope a whiny ***** go through all that in that short amount of time when THEY were 14, my reaction when fang revealed that the cie'th countdown speeds up the more stressed you are was "holy shit, how did hope not go cie'th instantly?"
The first: I'm starting to see a pattern here; characters that are not well liked by default seem to compensate for it in combat. Sure, Vanille and Snow are not liked, have no personality, and have no chance of developing any depth or redeemable qualities, but we can still count on them for killing neigh invincible monsters and having a TON of HP. And yes, Hope was annoying because come on, he wasn't the only l'Cie there (remember the other four) and the reason his mark didn't light up like the Fourth of July is because he directed his stress and angst into killing Snow.
The second: I tended to ignore both Vanille and Snow and missed out on their abilities or potential in the field because I just couldn't stand them. I only had 4 characters to work with and I was able to beat the whole game with just those four. I did a little grinding, but that was for equipment purposes only; my characters had decent stats and I was able to get through the final boss on my second try (because I had no clue how to deal with him on my first go). Again, I used what I could stand to use and it still made the gameplay enjoyable and challenging.
Ashley "I can't tell the people from the animals" Williams in Mass Effect 1.
There are no animals there you ignorant Earth First supporting bible basher.
Seriously, out of every character in the franchise she is the most perfectly suited to join Cerburus and yet she's (assuming you kept her around after Virmire for some reason) one of the few teammates who completly refuse to have any association with them.
Additionally there's no reason for her to be part of the crew in the first place. She was a garrison soldier on Eden Prime who's unit got wiped out. You save her and Anderson decides she could be really usefull for you and brings her aboard the ship, why!!! There is nothing unique about Ashley, and there is absolutly nothing that makes her useful as part of a Spectre's team that also includes a former elite Turian spec ops & top C-sec investigator, a Krogan Battlemaster, and a handpicked Alliance officer. I wasn't going to mention the Quarian on her gap year or the archeologist, but at least they bring specialised expertise.
You just did an excellent job of proving you never took more then a surface glance at her character.
She has complex views on a complex situation (political issues between members of different species), but people don't like complexity so they rush to find the first label that fits, and start shouting about racism. Despite the fact that racism among humans and the interspecies differences in Mass Effect can't really be compared.
She despises Terra Firma (the "Earth First" group you are referring to) because they are a bunch of ignorant anti alien jackasses who corrupt the original ideals of the organisation (that humans should not depend on or be subservient to aliens culturally legally or politically) and turn it into "eeeew aliens totes gross". Ashley thinks that the council does not have the Alliances best interests at heart. And she is right.
She refuses to join Cerberus because she is an Alliance soldier to the bone and they are a criminal extremist group who believes humans should dominate all species and have attacked the alliance in the past.
The only reason she had that shitty assignment was politics. Her service record is clean and her technical scores are far higher then her posting deserves. They just give her crap assignments because they want her to give up so they can pretend her grandpa never existed. It wasn't luck that led to her surviving when the rest of her unit got taken out, it was skill. As soon as she is in a position where she is judged solely on merit, she rises damn fast. By ME3, she is a Spectre herself.
I love how people demonise her as a bible basher. She mentions that she is religious a single time and doesn't have a problem with people who aren't.
Garrus in Mass Effect I was so glad I got to kill that thing god he was annoying. Then there is Kenny and his family in the walking dead I was pretty glad when they all died shooting Duck felt so satisfying I just wish I could have done it earlier the kids dead he got bitten lets just ditch his ass now. I was a bit annoyed I didnt get to shoot zombie Kenny.
CrimsonBlaze said:
Along with Snow, there is no point in having her in your party so long as you have Fang and Hope.
Not here to change your opinion of her but there is one very good reason why you should have her in your party and why she is not interchangeable and that is because she has access to the death spell which no one else gets and combined with the malboro wand (upgraded) and her own sabotage skill affinity it has a very good chance of activating which makes farming the giant turtle things much less of a chore and actually possible a lot earlier than it otherwise would be. Shes useless against the long gui though as they are immune to death best use Lightning and Fang then as they have the other two best ultimates imo.
Yeah, that's good and all, but I still go back to my original point: if you can't stand to be around a certain character, it's easy to push them aside and concentrate on other tactics, which still work well and make the game both enjoyable and challenging. Also, to simply have her around for that farming tactic still wouldn't be enough for me to let her on the team. The damage is already done.
Well you said there was no point in having her on your team thats what I was disagreeing with as she has singular access to one of if not the best ability in the game and is the best saboteur in the game to boot which is very useful in FFXIII even more so than synergist which is completely reversed to other FF games.
You dont have to have her ofc and like I said if you hate her I am not going to say you are wrong for doing so but if you are going for 100% completion having her on your team will save you a hell of a lot of time. If you are just going for story completion I can sorta agree you dont really need her but going for 100% completion you would be hurting yourself by not taking her she speeds up the process of obtaining money for materials (most important part for all those ultimate weapons and upgraded items) and the accumulation of CP (not as big a deal as money) immensely, you can ofc use other tactics (to acquire money and CP) but the fastest way is to use Vanille (and early on the only practical way) later on it can be faster to straight up just beat the turtles down with Fang and Lightning but by that point you are pretty much done with the game anyway you could ofc not bother farming the big turtles until later but honestly that would add a lot of time to your run and beating them down with other characters before you have the best kit is a lot slower than just using Death (and harder). Guess what im saying is pushing her aside and using other tactics is possible (in some cases) its just those other tactics are inferior and more time consuming until much much later on also in the ultimate fight her ability to quickly debuff the opponent is a literal lifesaver you want slow on it asap.
I personally despise Garrus but he and Wrex were on my team a fair bit in the first game because from a gameplay perspective he was useful (3 high powered sniper rifles with explosive shots ftw) and one of the more powerful characters when equipped properly and I feel Vanille is sorta the same in FFXIII. You can still hate her though I still hate Garrus.
You just did an excellent job of proving you never took more then a surface glance at her character.
She has complex views on a complex situation (political issues between members of different species), but people don't like complexity so they rush to find the first label that fits, and start shouting about racism. Despite the fact that racism among humans and the interspecies differences in Mass Effect can't really be compared.
She despises Terra Firma (the "Earth First" group you are referring to) because they are a bunch of ignorant anti alien jackasses who corrupt the original ideals of the organisation (that humans should not depend on or be subservient to aliens culturally legally or politically) and turn it into "eeeew aliens totes gross". Ashley thinks that the council does not have the Alliances best interests at heart. And she is right.
She refuses to join Cerberus because she is an Alliance soldier to the bone and they are a criminal extremist group who believes humans should dominate all species and have attacked the alliance in the past.
The only reason she had that shitty assignment was politics. Her service record is clean and her technical scores are far higher then her posting deserves. They just give her crap assignments because they want her to give up so they can pretend her grandpa never existed. It wasn't luck that led to her surviving when the rest of her unit got taken out, it was skill. As soon as she is in a position where she is judged solely on merit, she rises damn fast. By ME3, she is a Spectre herself.
I love how people demonise her as a bible basher. She mentions that she is religious a single time and doesn't have a problem with people who aren't.
First up, I didn't rush into this opinion of Ash. I didn't have a problem with her until after multiple playthroughs. First time round Virmire was a damn tough choice and I only chose Kaidan because he was the one near the bomb and I really wanted to be certain that went off.
She has one line where she says she doesn't agree with the direction of Terra Firma, and dozens that seem to contradict that; including the infamous "I can't tell the difference between the people and the animals", in a scene with no animals. Sounds exactly like "eeeew aliens totes gross" to me. Her conversations with the other crewmates in the elevators are also revealing; either she's not speciesist and just happens to act like a dick towards everyone from another species she meets or she's speciesist.
Of course you can compare racism & prejudice in our world to the inter-species relations in Mass Effect.
When we meet Ashley she's a senior NCO (That's what Gunnery Chief sounds like to me) ... that doesn't sound like she's being held back. (On that topic Bioware clearly do not understand military rank structure, soldiers simply do not go from senior NCO to the equivalent of Lt. Col in 3 years.) The only evidence we have that she's been held back is her word for it, and as I said she was a senior NCO...
Where do we get her technical scores & service record? because if that answer involves any literature that isn't the codex, I'm ignoring it.
I'll agree that "bible basher" is a bit harsh, but she is the only human character to even mention God, so it's not exactly surprising. Indeed the only other characters to mention a deity are Asari, and they are normally using it as a form of exclamation.
Have you ever brought her to the Terr Firma rally? Other squadmates have a go at them, but none are as passionate as Ash. She is downright vicious.
The animals/alien line is actually bugged. It triggers in the wrong ace. Additionally, way the fuck back when ME1 first came out and this discussion first started, one of the devs pisted concept art of two aliens that didn't make it into the game. One was sentient, one wasn't. They asked forum members to try and figure out which was which. There was no real consensus. One was a person, one was an animal. People on the forums couldn't tell the people from the animals. I mean, just compare the Hanar and Keepers. One is sentient and self aware, the other isn't. Good luck foguring out which without prior knowledge.
I always disregard the elevator conversations. They are, bar none, the worst banter BioWare has ever done. There are many instances where different characters have the exact same lines.
Everyone i know with even the tiniest amount of knowledge of military ranks has agreed that Ash's rise doesn't make much sense. But that is the way it goes down. Actually, my source for her being held back is Shepard. Shepard states that her record is clean and her scores far above the assignments she has been given, and asks why.
And we really can't compare real world racism to what is going on in Mass Effect. Racism is incredibly stupid because there is no real fundamental difference between a black person and a white one. Often some cultural differences, but thats it. Different species in Mass Effect actually are inherently different. If a black person walks into a white persons restaraunt and the white person says "You can't eat here. We don't have any fried chicken or watermelon" he is a complete douche. If a turian walks into a human's restaraunt and the human says "You can't eat here. We don't have any dextro food" he is saving that turians life.
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