and ... Steams greenlight fails .....
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Have you considered the fact that not enough people want this game? If enough people will want it, it will get greenlit.
Other than it being mentioned every other episode of Extra Credits (without actually explaining what it is), I never heard about this game. Looking at the link you posted, I don't see what's so special about it. I'd rather replay Tyrian.
EDIT: I just noticed that it was only posted yesterday. What's the problem? Games don't get greenlit immediately. By the comments it keeps getting, it'll probably get greenlit. I don't see the problem here.
Other than it being mentioned every other episode of Extra Credits (without actually explaining what it is), I never heard about this game. Looking at the link you posted, I don't see what's so special about it. I'd rather replay Tyrian.
EDIT: I just noticed that it was only posted yesterday. What's the problem? Games don't get greenlit immediately. By the comments it keeps getting, it'll probably get greenlit. I don't see the problem here.
So... your problem is that these games will most likely be released in the near future on Steam, but not right now?
Greenlight has its problems, one being that nobody really uses it because there isn't a real incentive (e.g. hats) to spend time there. If it'd just plop up between rounds in TF2 and other games, asking in a quick manner if this game piques the player's interest (without being annoying, of course), it'd surely work better.
If you really like a game and want it to be greenlit, just promote it a little. Get friends to vote for it etc. because by doing nothing there won't happen anything and neither will jsut raging against the system. And yes, I already voted for Ikaruga when I read the news over on Destructoid.
If you really like a game and want it to be greenlit, just promote it a little. Get friends to vote for it etc. because by doing nothing there won't happen anything and neither will jsut raging against the system. And yes, I already voted for Ikaruga when I read the news over on Destructoid.
How is it a problem? It's a screening tool, not an advertising tool. It's the developers job to get people to go to the Greenlight page and vote for their game. Posting links in forums, like this one, is a very good way to get people to know about your game and vote for it.rofltehcat said:
Like that'll do any good.canadamus_prime said:
not played many shooters then have you.Ed130 said:
fantastic, shit gets through while the good stuff gets stuck in green light purgatory :/
Greenlight isn't a quality checking tool. It's a popularity checking tool. You can't just assume that releasing Ikaruga on Steam will make Tresure money - hence why the question asked to people in Greenlight is 'Would you buy this game if it were available on Steam?'. It's a tool to check whether developers will make Steam money or not.
If the game is as popular as you say it'll surely get through the greenlight process, so what's the issue? It's kinda stupid I agree, but it's a minor hiccup that will sort itself out if what you're saying is true.
I understand that popularity doesn't always equate to quality, and I would be bummed too if a game I thought was really good failed to get greenlit because it didn't have large enough appeal, but Valve is a business, and no business can afford to make investments in games that won't sell.
I understand that popularity doesn't always equate to quality, and I would be bummed too if a game I thought was really good failed to get greenlit because it didn't have large enough appeal, but Valve is a business, and no business can afford to make investments in games that won't sell.
As has been stated before, it's only been up one single day. If this game is as popular as you say it is then it should have no issue whatsoever of getting greenlit, and judging by the huge number of positive comments on the greenlight page it looks like it should get greenlit pretty quickly.Lunar Templar said:
If it doesn't, then that is purely because there wasn't enough interest to justify Valve doing all the coding and work to get it Steam compatible, because not enough people would have bought it.
Valve is a small company, Steam is a purchasing platform. There is no point in a business releasing a game that they know will not sell as many copies as another game they could have used that time to code to become compatible with Steam.
"It could be better" =WORST THING EVER!!! ?Weaver said:
Greenlight seems like it's doing it's job, though perhaps not at peak performance. But I've found 18 titles that I will buy once they're out.
Well, true. THough 'colossal failure' is still pretty big compared to "not working as well as we'd hoped"Weaver said:
Yet publishers like Nyu Media & Rockin Android who have published games on Steam are been forced to submit their games through Greenlight. Just another case of Valve not adhering to their own rules or changing them to suit the weather.Camarilla said:
@OP I wouldn't worry about Treasure, they have more than enough of a following to get past Greenlight and for all we know Treasure might even want to go through Greenlight since for their case it's a good way of measuring possible sales and free press. It's probably Valve been stupid about Japanese games yet again but it's still too early to go pointing fingers imo.
I've complained about flaws in services on the official forums before, mostly for MMOs.canadamus_prime said:
Did absolutely no good, why should I think it'll be any different there.
I don't know, but as I said, you're not going to accomplish anything by complaining here.Lunar Templar said:
"Stop the presses! A game I'm particularly fond of hasn't been Greenlit fast enough for my liking, and other games are being released before it is!"
Um. No. Ikaruga, as much of a classic as it may be, is now smack-dab in iOS release territory. It's reached the point where it *would* necessitate a Kickstarter or a Greenlight backing in order to be ported. It's not a question of whether or not the game is historically important to the medium - because it is - it's a case of whether or not the general public is ready and willing to shell out cash for a game they prospectively already own.
I know I do, having played the game's original Dreamcast release with a friend, and having purchased the XBLA edition as one of my first Xbox 360 store purchases. Considering, I really wouldn't want to shell out more cash for *another* port.
That's considering how otherwise, the alternative is this:
As good a game as it may be, I don't want Ikaruga to join the ranks of legacy titles that are systematically ported for every device ever conceived by mortal intelligences. Like, um, Myst.
Um. No. Ikaruga, as much of a classic as it may be, is now smack-dab in iOS release territory. It's reached the point where it *would* necessitate a Kickstarter or a Greenlight backing in order to be ported. It's not a question of whether or not the game is historically important to the medium - because it is - it's a case of whether or not the general public is ready and willing to shell out cash for a game they prospectively already own.
I know I do, having played the game's original Dreamcast release with a friend, and having purchased the XBLA edition as one of my first Xbox 360 store purchases. Considering, I really wouldn't want to shell out more cash for *another* port.
That's considering how otherwise, the alternative is this:
As good a game as it may be, I don't want Ikaruga to join the ranks of legacy titles that are systematically ported for every device ever conceived by mortal intelligences. Like, um, Myst.