Annoying stereotypes about my sexuality.

[userwhoquitthesite]

I'd say im only into men if they are very very pretty

and you assume wrong

EDIT: and just to add more to the point, if someone asks you if you are gay, you say no. If they ask why you are flirting with the dude at the next table and arent gay, you man up and say you arent gay but you you think dude over there is hot.

All this "oh, i have to lie about my sexuality" is crap. The only time you, as a man who (in your own words) likes dick, is if you find yourself in the company of people who will harass you for being a man who likes dick. Otherwise, you're just being lazy because you dont wanna explain that you are just down for whatever.

But you yourself said that I shouldn't bother with unnecessary terminology. So how should I explain my sexuality? The "likes dick" comment was for comedic effect. I also lie for simplicity's sake because many people (such as some of the people on this thread) say that my sexuality is untrue or pretentious; and while I love a good debate, I'm usually relaxing at a party and really don't want to get into it. And the example I gave was based off a possible scenario, I personally assumed nothing (hence the disclaimer "Assuming you're straight, I could be wrong").

And I already said what you should do.
Are you gay?
No.
Are you straight?
no
Are you asexual?
Fuck no, what's the point of that?

Basically, you dont need to define it, just make it clear you arent fucking children or raping dogs, and everything should be alright.

Assuming you arent fucking children or raping dogs. Then you should tell someone. Now. Like a policeman.

Don't fuck children or rape dogs, people!

Although, according to a new book on the shelves,

Spoiler: dolphins may be okay

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&ved=0CDMQFjAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thesun.co.uk%2Fsol%2Fhomepage%2Fnews%2F3834775%2FBook-about-sex-with-dolphin-is-hit.html&ei=pXC6TsOXGcWusALop6y3CA&usg=AFQjCNGRarOQdSSw35SyvpBhpX7j10scPQ&sig2=AP8jBUIIw9gYqdhSG86dcw

 

[holy_secret]

Dear Everybody (especially females),

Sex in the City and other similar, shitty TV show are not an accurate portrayal of how the average LGBT man acts. Just because I appreciate dick doesn't mean my tastes or behaviour will be any less masculine than a straight guy. Please get this through your skulls, it's starting to get on my tits.

On a related note (this time for everyone), Pansexuality is not bisexuality. Stop saying it is. When it gets to the point where I lie about my sexuality for the sake of simplicity, something has gone very wrong.

For those unaware as to what pansexuality is here's a wikipedia article.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pansexuality

The more you know people,
David (Pansexual)

P.s. I'm actually in quite a good mood at the moment, just thought I'd give a PSA

So, ranting aside, does anyone else have this problem?

I made a ranting thread about it the other day.

You know what pisses me off? The fact that gays want to be equal and be treated like everyone else. Yet they have these huge ass pride parades focusing almost exclusively on sex.
Why

PS: I read Breadsexual.

 

[RagTagBand]

Eh, tbh it just sounds like a stupidly hipster thing to call yourself. Just in case you consider the term "Bisexual" to be too bigoted nor superfluously detailed enough.

I mean ffs part of it requires you define your sexuality using the Gender roles you're attracted to? What's next? Will we start creating terms to describe what kinds of personalties we like? What colour hair we like? What fashion? What ethnicities?

 

[Vegosiux]

I mean ffs part of it requires you define your sexuality using the Gender roles you're attracted to? What's next? Will we start creating terms to describe what kinds of personalties we like? What colour hair we like? What fashion? What ethnicities?

I am almost sure it's a tad late to "start" since someone probably already did...

 

[PhiMed]

Pansexuality IS the same thing as bisexuality. You're arguing over labels. These are collections of symbols/series of utterances that people have created to describe the EXACT SAME behavior and preference.

We're not talking about a slur or a derogatory term. We're talking about two accepted words for the same thing.

 

[LogicArmour]

Thank you Gentlemen. You have challenge my beliefs with well-structured and thoughtful argument (which was the point of this thread originally); and, while I may not agree with either of you, you have given me much food for thought.

 

[Thaluikhain]

Sex in the City and other similar, shitty TV show are not an accurate portrayal of how the average LGBT man acts. Just because I appreciate dick doesn't mean my tastes or behaviour will be any less masculine than a straight guy.

Argh, yes. Though, this can be applied to quite a number of things on TV, and the depiction of First Aid worries me.

But, yeah, depictions of non-white male heteronormativeness tend to suck.

[small]I'd question the idea of things being inherently "masculine" though, and there's a terrible joke about "tastes" and "dick" to be made.[/small]

On a related note (this time for everyone), Pansexuality is not bisexuality. Stop saying it is. When it gets to the point where I lie about my sexuality for the sake of simplicity, something has gone very wrong.

"Bisexual" tends to get used loosely enough that it'd include pansexuality, but having to lie about your sexuality cause it's too much effort to constantly explain it to people...never been in that position, but I've known people that were, and it pissed them off no end.

 

[Samurai Silhouette]

Wait, I didn't know there's more than 2 genders. There's only 4 types of sexualities I know of. Straight, Bi, Homo, and furry. And as far as I know, a dude getting his junk inverted into fake a vagina is still a dude and vice versa. This sounds like some hipster movement to set their selves apart.

 

[LogicArmour]

Eh, tbh it just sounds like a stupidly hipster thing to call yourself. Just in case you consider the term "Bisexual" to be too bigoted nor superfluously detailed enough.

I mean ffs part of it requires you define your sexuality using the Gender roles you're attracted to? What's next? Will we start creating terms to describe what kinds of personalties we like? What colour hair we like? What fashion? What ethnicities?

Bisexuality focuses on the two binary genders (bi = 2).
Pansexuality focuses on the multiple sexual identities (including but not limited too male and female) and attraction to them.
The hipster argument is just stupid. I use to define myself as bi until I became attracted to a transman (he called himself a "cuntboy", no joke), who identified as neither. Since then I have met others in that group and found some attractive.

 

[LogicArmour]

For the last time pansexuality is not a "hipster movement", nor am I personally a hipster. It is a recognised sexual preference just like bisexuality, homosexuality and heterosexuality.

 

[lordgiza]

I always try to be as open-minded and considerate of new ideas as possible, and whilst I can appreciate that not everyone who is male and likes a bit of penis will be a "flaming queen" (as amazing as that may seem to some people), I have to agree with Dimitriov; I just can't see how pansexuality is fundamentally any different from bisexuality.

Bisexuality has to do with liking both sexes. Pansexuality is about liking all sexes and races, body types etc..

 

[Nergy]

Pansexuality IS different to bisexuality as pansexuality spans a bigger area of attraction than bisexuality. Though, Bisexuality gets a lot of misconceptions tacked onto it.

"Bisexuals just haven't decided if they're gay or straight yet"

"They're just being greedy"

"I wouldn't date a bisexual person, like they both sexes so they're more likely to cheat"

Bare in mind i've heard these from both straight and gay people.

 

[LogicArmour]

Pansexuality IS the same thing as bisexuality. You're arguing over labels. These are collections of symbols/series of utterances that people have created to describe the EXACT SAME behavior and preference.

We're not talking about a slur or a derogatory term. We're talking about two accepted words for the same thing.

I've never said this straight and I've always allowed for some wiggled room for them to justify themselves. But you sir are just wrong. You incorrect in almost every factor of that statement. The only bit you got right was "We're not talking about a slur or a derogatory term"; you are correct here. Instead we are talking about a scientifically defined and accepted sexuality that is completely separate from bisexuality.

 

[Danzavare]

So how should I explain my sexuality?

"I'm willing to sleep with men, women and everything in between?"
>.>;

I hope I'm not getting it mixed up but I think "Sex" refers to Male and Female (+ Transgender?). So that's the physical part of it. Gender is what you identify with, so ideas of masculinity, femininity and androgyny. (Probably more sub-genres, because gender has those apparently.)

So I am heterosexual because I am male and the sex I opt for is female. A man is homosexual if the sex he seeks is male. A person is bisexual if they're after both sexes (Let's assume transgender is the middle-mark between male and female sex). It's a simple physically based system, it doesn't say anything about your personality or non-physical preferences.

So I think you could fairly call yourself pansexual, but the term bisexual should apply to you too.

Not that I'm an expert. Still, sometimes it's easier just to go by the simplified definition/name for things, even if it doesn't encompass everything you want it to. I do performance studies as a subject, which is meant to study performance in countless forms but if anyone asks and I don't feel up to explaining I say drama. It's not the most accurate term for it, but it gives the gist of it. If you're facing a potential partner, just let them know you're interested, if you're not and don't want to explain, keep it simple.

 

[LogicArmour]

Bisexuality gets a lot of misconceptions tacked onto it.

"Bisexuals just haven't decided if they're gay or straight yet"

"They're just being greedy"

"I wouldn't date a bisexual person, like they both sexes so they're more likely to cheat"

Bare in mind i've heard these from both straight and gay people.

So have I. It annoys to no end when people oversimplify or put down someones sexuality in this way.

 

[LogicArmour]

So how should I explain my sexuality?

"I'm willing to sleep with men, women and everything in between?"
>.>;

I hope I'm not getting it mixed up but I think "Sex" refers to Male and Female (+ Transgender?). So that's the physical part of it. Gender is what you identify with, so ideas of masculinity, femininity and androgyny. (Probably more sub-genres, because gender has those apparently.)

So I am heterosexual because I am male and the sex I opt for is female. A man is homosexual if the sex he seeks is male. A person is bisexual if they're after both sexes (Let's assume transgender is the middle-mark between male and female sex). It's a simple physically based system, it doesn't say anything about your personality or non-physical preferences.

So I think you could fairly call yourself pansexual, but the term bisexual should apply to you too.

Not that I'm an expert. Still, sometimes it's easier just to go by the simplified definition/name for things, even if it doesn't encompass everything you want it to. I do performance studies as a subject, which is meant to study performance in countless forms but if anyone asks and I don't feel up to explaining I say drama. It's not the most accurate term for it, but it gives the gist of it. If you're facing a potential partner, just let them know you're interested, if you're not and don't want to explain, keep it simple.

I commend you sir. That was very well worded and insightful, and I can definitely see where you coming form with this. Sexuality can also mean what gender you are attracted to. In which case there a several gender identities.

 

[jimClassic]

I always try to be as open-minded and considerate of new ideas as possible, and whilst I can appreciate that not everyone who is male and likes a bit of penis will be a "flaming queen" (as amazing as that may seem to some people), I have to agree with Dimitriov; I just can't see how pansexuality is fundamentally any different from bisexuality.

I read the wiki post, and it seems like there's a thin line between a bisexual, and pansexual.
Bi obviously refers male and female, while I guess pan adds transexuals into the mix. So I guess in laymens terms a pansexual, would be a tri-sexual. I just made up that last word.

 

[Al-Bundy-da-G]

Hey man no offense but quite frankly I couldn't give half a shit who anyone fucks, or what their sexual orientation is. Putting out shit like this only makes people feel threatened by the idea. Bringing it up only widens the gap, kinda like black history month in the US.

 

[Danzavare]

So how should I explain my sexuality?

"I'm willing to sleep with men, women and everything in between?"
>.>;

I hope I'm not getting it mixed up but I think "Sex" refers to Male and Female (+ Transgender?). So that's the physical part of it. Gender is what you identify with, so ideas of masculinity, femininity and androgyny. (Probably more sub-genres, because gender has those apparently.)

So I am heterosexual because I am male and the sex I opt for is female. A man is homosexual if the sex he seeks is male. A person is bisexual if they're after both sexes (Let's assume transgender is the middle-mark between male and female sex). It's a simple physically based system, it doesn't say anything about your personality or non-physical preferences.

So I think you could fairly call yourself pansexual, but the term bisexual should apply to you too.

Not that I'm an expert. Still, sometimes it's easier just to go by the simplified definition/name for things, even if it doesn't encompass everything you want it to. I do performance studies as a subject, which is meant to study performance in countless forms but if anyone asks and I don't feel up to explaining I say drama. It's not the most accurate term for it, but it gives the gist of it. If you're facing a potential partner, just let them know you're interested, if you're not and don't want to explain, keep it simple.

I commend you sir. That was very well worded and insightful, and I can definitely see where you coming form with this. Sexuality can also mean what gender you are attracted to. In which case there a several gender identities.

In the conventional sense it doesn't. You can imagine that if it did, it'd make things really complicated. (You know, with there being no useful way of measuring degrees of masculinity and femininity, plus you'd have to account for sexual preferences such as hair colour, skin, types of personality, fetishes, etc) I think you should, in talking about it, try and keep to the simple version of sexuality. If you want to elaborate, you should appeal to your identity and discuss it with the individual. (Trust me, no label can account for the multidimensional nature of who someone is and therefore who that someone would want to be with) For example, I can tell you I'm a heterosexual male and that is accurate, but to know the kind of women I want you'd have to really know me and my history.

It's not just pansexuals that are oversimplified by sex-based definitions, but for the sake of communication, it's important to have those simplifications as a starting point.

 

[Heronblade]

But, I always thought when someone was 'Pansexual' they referred to their sexual attraction against the fictional character Peter Pan! *Mind Blown! Booosh*

Depending on which movie you are talking about, maybe. One of the classic versions has a cross dressing woman playing Peter's role.