Anonymous Members Arrested for Performing DDOS Attacks
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that,s anonymous, best strength and weakness if a member where to get caught (like in this case) he/she wouldnt know anything about the other members on the other hand anonymous might and up fighting itself (for example Boxy)Sejs Cube said:
Well noone doing an actual DDoS is doing from their computer because you can't flood anyone on your own, you get dupes like the guys who were arrested to do it for you.thethingthatlurks said:
Or when doing it in a more concealed fashion you spread a passive trojan that will infect thousands of computers, then when you need someone flooded you just signal the trojans to start, that way you get the job done through others and are near impossible to trace.
Real hackers are out there, but these guys are not it
It would appear that Anonymous aren't as anonymous as they thought they were.
I can see one of two things happening as a result of this, either Anonymous will retaliate and just stir up more trouble and arrests or they'll just try laying low and be more cautious in the future (one would hope it's the second one).
About the posts I've seen where people have said Anonymous is not a group it's a state of mind etc., there are a large number of people out there who represent and identify themselves as part of Anonymous, a group of people you could say?
Just because you don't want to think of yourselves as a group (probably in the name of avoiding accountability) doesn't mean you aren't one (after all, there is no Illuminati).
I can see one of two things happening as a result of this, either Anonymous will retaliate and just stir up more trouble and arrests or they'll just try laying low and be more cautious in the future (one would hope it's the second one).
About the posts I've seen where people have said Anonymous is not a group it's a state of mind etc., there are a large number of people out there who represent and identify themselves as part of Anonymous, a group of people you could say?
Just because you don't want to think of yourselves as a group (probably in the name of avoiding accountability) doesn't mean you aren't one (after all, there is no Illuminati).
Most of these dipshits used LOIC from there home connections so changing there local ip to the internal side of their home router (with release and renew) would have made no difference to the IP that the attack was seen to come from. Anyone who cannot spoof a source IP deserves to get caught. That said I no for a fact that a lot of the LOIC attacks failed when the suckers behind it googled "spoof IP" and got the attack dropped by uRPF 'cos the used an IP in the wrong range.yami0333 said:
Anon used to be something, now it's a badge worn by wannabes trying to be something they could never understand.
After the publicity that attacks got there was no way that the Police were not going to find someone to blame, they decided to pick the low hanging fruit for the quick PR win. No sympathy for the arrested no respect for anon.
They can get a maximum of 10 years imprisonment under the Computer Misuse Act 1990Raven said:
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1990/18/contents
It would seem that this is more about Assange than anything else. Similar investigations are going on in Europe & the US, but it would seem (according to Reuters at least) that these investigations have Assange & WikiLeaks as a common denominator.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/01/28/us-wikileaks-britain-cyber-idUSTRE70R0W920110128
Incidentally "[...] the Scotland Yard Police Central e-Crime Unit was able to target five individuals early Thursday morning in coordinated raids throughout lower England."
'Lower England'? No! That doesn't make any sense even if you substitute 'Lower' with 'Southern'. It wasn't a series of Home Counties raids, they were split up across England.
Made oi larf, anyhow...
Actually, it would make sense to me to say "Southern England", but admittedly, YMMV. There's more to the South than just the "Home Counties" you know... Bleh, anyway, idiots got what the idiots deserved! As did the two Dutch guys that were arrested in December, hopefully more idiots will be caught and punished.catalyst8 said:
Anonymous is not a hacker group mate. It's a nomer for any and all that post anonymously on boards like 4chan, and sometimes when they're not busy calling each other fags or posting ridiculous images some of them band together to do stuff. For the lulz.
There is no group structure in anonymous. There are no leaders of anonymous.
If you choose to post crap on the internet (of course most notably image boards) anonymously, you become part of anonymous, see?
There is no group structure in anonymous. There are no leaders of anonymous.
If you choose to post crap on the internet (of course most notably image boards) anonymously, you become part of anonymous, see?
Hate to break it to you but the Low Orbit Ion Cannon has been out for a fairly long time, at least from an internet time perspective.
And it's possible to hide your IP through it fairly easily.
Not that I'd ever use it..I'm just an ICT student who is curious about such technology..
And how can these people call it "hacking". It's just assigning a target and pressing ok, it's not a patch on that guy (I forget the name) who scoured the entire US intelligence for PCs without passwords to look for information on "aliens".
And it's possible to hide your IP through it fairly easily.
Not that I'd ever use it..I'm just an ICT student who is curious about such technology..
And how can these people call it "hacking". It's just assigning a target and pressing ok, it's not a patch on that guy (I forget the name) who scoured the entire US intelligence for PCs without passwords to look for information on "aliens".
With how busy our prisons are, no judge is going to sentence one of these guys for 10 years, not for the crime of "organised logging on to a website"... It's ridiculous and a big waste of money tracking these guys down. It'd be like the police hunting down every single kid whoever smoked a joint. Which is why police focus on the big fish in big drug busts.catalyst8 said:
Seems like this eCrime department is just under pressure to deliver any kind of result in response to these attacks...
Agreed that this has a lot to do with Assange and wikileaks though. Who'd have thought he might be responsible for triggering the first kind of cyberwarfare which has the authorities arresting 15 year old kids in order to bring "justice" to the world...
I hear the Egyptian government has just blocked Internet access and mobile phone networks in order to stop would be protesters organising themselves, scary shit when you consider what a violation of free speech that is and how blatant their government is terrified of a Tunisian inspired revolution. Interesting times for Arab nations indeed.
Oh look! They caught some kids lurking the IRC and following "DDoS for dummies" tutorials. The sinister "hackergroup" Anonymous surely must be beaten now! Because that's how the internet works.
Without looking, i already know the common response on 4chan right now to this: "less newfags now, good riddance".
Without looking, i already know the common response on 4chan right now to this: "less newfags now, good riddance".
Calling Anonymous a hacker group is going to insult real hackers. Grabbing premade tools and using them qualifies one as a script kiddie and Anonymous is so heterogeneous that blanket statements about it are pointless, it's neither a hacker group nor a terrorist group, it's a bunch of people where some might decided to DDoS something.
Well, obviously "Hacker Group attacks Site X" makes for a better headline than "Kids DDos Site for 3 Hours, Sysadmin mildly annoyed".Klepa said:
(Gaming) Journalism is all about getting attention, some outlets even sacrifice their integrity and credibility for it.
As for The Escapist... let's just say they made it pretty obvious how they play the game.
I'd say the story runs a little different, to simply arresting some weak kids because of pressure. I suspect that an investigation was run, and when it turned out these kiddies were easy to find the coppers thought '"Sweet, easy pickings, we'll nab 'em" and off they trotted to make some arrests. After which they make a song and dance about it hoping to deter other script kiddies from similar acts. Had they hidden themselves properly the cops would have done what they always do when it comes to DDoS attacks, sat on their arses and done next to nothing.Raven said:
And as for DDoS being the digital equivalent of a sit in protest... Not the case. Here you're attacking something owned exclusively by the company or organisation you are attacking, a sit in protest should, ideally, be sat outside the premises, and they can still be moved along by the police to a spot away from the doors. Sitting inside a building in order to disrupt trade will get you a short spell in the cells if you don't move when the coppers ask you to.
As for facism, again not the case, disrupting capitalism in a capitalist society is goping to get you in trouble. Just common sense.
Saying anonymous are all hackers is a little bit broad, isn't it? I'd guess it's something like less than 3%, if that.
As an anon that protested in the first Manchester Scientology raid I'm more than a little insulted.
As an anon that protested in the first Manchester Scientology raid I'm more than a little insulted.