Another death blamed on games
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Actually after reading the whole article I have to say it wasn't targeting video games in a bad light. It goes on to have the father saying "I don't blame the manufacturer" and gives Microsoft's advice about taking frequent breaks to pursue other ventures. The article seemed more focused on raising awareness of DVT which I also don't see as a bad thing. The kid had an addiction to video games, and addictions are usually no good no matter what it is you are addicted to.
I don't see an issue with the article. It's all true and valid; gaming killed him. Or rather, DVT induced by doing nothing besides gaming. Sure, it's sensationalist and doesn't portray games in a very good light, but so what? Gamers need to get out of this siege mentality wherein some of us think that the media are hounding us. They aren't.
Rupert Murdoch owns the sun, the news of the world and fox news among others... notice a pattern?
TRUTH IN ARTICLE:
I have heard of how sitting still for many hours can kill someone, and so because he sat still for many hours without stopping, that is what killed them. Cause of death is the DVT due to immobility.
LIES IN ARTICLE:
The Xbox didn't kill him. Plus, he doesn't look very healthy. If he wasn't living with anyone, then perhaps he should have had a job? If he was living with his parents, then perhaps they should have stopped him at some point. It doesn't really mention whom he lived with. The point is, it's very misleading to call it "death by Xbox," because the Xbox didn't kill him. It was his inability to get off the system and get some exercise or fresh air.
RAGE ABOUT ARTICLE:
Seriously, the media has to stop blaming these deaths on videogames. When you look deep down, the game didn't do shit. It's not Master Chief's fault the man couldn't let go of him. Plus, others have mentioned how he doesn't look like he gets much exercise anyway. Maybe the parents should have taken him off the game, or some friends take him out to have some non-digital fun. You know why my parents don't have to call me off my computer? Because I get up every 2-3 hours. If someone you know isn't getting their ass up every once in a while, maybe you should be a good person a help.
Okay, now I'm blaming this on the parents and friends. The point is, if you know somebody who is a little TOO addicted to videogames and computers, maybe you should do them a favor and invite them out. Videogames don't cause deaths. What the gamers do cause deaths.
I have heard of how sitting still for many hours can kill someone, and so because he sat still for many hours without stopping, that is what killed them. Cause of death is the DVT due to immobility.
LIES IN ARTICLE:
The Xbox didn't kill him. Plus, he doesn't look very healthy. If he wasn't living with anyone, then perhaps he should have had a job? If he was living with his parents, then perhaps they should have stopped him at some point. It doesn't really mention whom he lived with. The point is, it's very misleading to call it "death by Xbox," because the Xbox didn't kill him. It was his inability to get off the system and get some exercise or fresh air.
RAGE ABOUT ARTICLE:
Seriously, the media has to stop blaming these deaths on videogames. When you look deep down, the game didn't do shit. It's not Master Chief's fault the man couldn't let go of him. Plus, others have mentioned how he doesn't look like he gets much exercise anyway. Maybe the parents should have taken him off the game, or some friends take him out to have some non-digital fun. You know why my parents don't have to call me off my computer? Because I get up every 2-3 hours. If someone you know isn't getting their ass up every once in a while, maybe you should be a good person a help.
Okay, now I'm blaming this on the parents and friends. The point is, if you know somebody who is a little TOO addicted to videogames and computers, maybe you should do them a favor and invite them out. Videogames don't cause deaths. What the gamers do cause deaths.
That pony's female.James Crook said:He had unhealthy eating habits and a crappy chair, I gotta say...
The pony in your profile pic freaks me out when he does that weird faceimnotparanoid said:
Anyway, any sedentary lifestyle makes you more vulnerable to thrombosis, as does smoking. It seems unfair to lay the blame on games here, it's more the attitude behind playing these games that is the problem.
Oops, thanks, it was just a typo.Redingold said:That pony's female.James Crook said:He had unhealthy eating habits and a crappy chair, I gotta say...
The pony in your profile pic freaks me out when he does that weird faceimnotparanoid said:
Anyway, any sedentary lifestyle makes you more vulnerable to thrombosis, as does smoking. It seems unfair to lay the blame on games here, it's more the attitude behind playing these games that is the problem.
Yeah, I don't get it why The Sun's writers used games as a scapegoat here. Perhaps that guy smoked. Or maybe he ate a lot of ordered pizza and Burger King? We don't know, games aren't to blame for this, it's just his behaviour and lack of restraint.. Heck, this could've happened too if the guy kept watching TV and didn't even play games.
No one believes in self-efficacy anymore, huh?
It's tragic when anyone young dies but it was his own fault. Maybe he wasn't fully informed about DVT but if his lifestyle was to sit all day then he must have known there are some serious health risks involved, especially at twenty. Obviously the parents don't want to think that their son's untimely death was his own fault so they look for a scapegoat. If he had watched copious amounts of television it would have been that.
Afterthought: The Sun is nothing but rubbish anyway so I doubt with all the high profile attacks on gaming this one will go very far.
It's tragic when anyone young dies but it was his own fault. Maybe he wasn't fully informed about DVT but if his lifestyle was to sit all day then he must have known there are some serious health risks involved, especially at twenty. Obviously the parents don't want to think that their son's untimely death was his own fault so they look for a scapegoat. If he had watched copious amounts of television it would have been that.
Afterthought: The Sun is nothing but rubbish anyway so I doubt with all the high profile attacks on gaming this one will go very far.
Ok, the headline is stupidly provocative (this is the Sun...) but it almost looks like some posters are getting a victim complex about this.
There is no call to ban games, or anything else stupid like that. He died because he sat around for up to 12 hours per day playing video games. Denying that video games had a part to play in his death is ignoring the facts. His father only wants other gamers to know that sitting around for hours on end is dangerous, a fair enough message.
Now if only we could ban offices...
There is no call to ban games, or anything else stupid like that. He died because he sat around for up to 12 hours per day playing video games. Denying that video games had a part to play in his death is ignoring the facts. His father only wants other gamers to know that sitting around for hours on end is dangerous, a fair enough message.
Now if only we could ban offices...
If video games, or even just sitting on your ass all day gave you blood clots, I would have died YEARS ago.
I'd say the more likely culprit was the job interview. Notice how they say his symptoms appeared RIGHT after his interview? Pretty suspicious, I'd say! JOBS KILL.
Or perhaps it was because he was outside. That place is dangerous! Everything out there is always trying to kill you one way or the other, nature just found a new method is all. That's why I never leave the house unless I have to.
I'd say the more likely culprit was the job interview. Notice how they say his symptoms appeared RIGHT after his interview? Pretty suspicious, I'd say! JOBS KILL.
Or perhaps it was because he was outside. That place is dangerous! Everything out there is always trying to kill you one way or the other, nature just found a new method is all. That's why I never leave the house unless I have to.
Oh its the Sun, The UK's Favorite comic book.
20% News, 70% sensationalism and 10% tits.
At least one of those figures is being generous...
20% News, 70% sensationalism and 10% tits.
At least one of those figures is being generous...
Well, i guess it is now that the NOTW has shut down (another victim of Murdoch's repeated attempts to wash his hands of accountability of any kind).Ickorus said:
All right, now you guys are being too sensitive.
Did playing on his Xbox kill him? Apparently, YES. YES IT DID.
Could this have happened if he had, say, watched movies for twelve hours at a time? YES. YES IT COULD HAVE.
If that had been the case, and had the article been titled "Movie Death", would you guys complain? NO. NO YOU WOULD NOT.
Sitting in front of his Xbox for so long DID kill him. The article is VERY CLEAR of that. Stop overreacting, everyone, you're making us look bad.
EDIT: Although it is the Sun... still. There's no need for the outrage that people had.
Did playing on his Xbox kill him? Apparently, YES. YES IT DID.
Could this have happened if he had, say, watched movies for twelve hours at a time? YES. YES IT COULD HAVE.
If that had been the case, and had the article been titled "Movie Death", would you guys complain? NO. NO YOU WOULD NOT.
Sitting in front of his Xbox for so long DID kill him. The article is VERY CLEAR of that. Stop overreacting, everyone, you're making us look bad.
EDIT: Although it is the Sun... still. There's no need for the outrage that people had.
Blaming games for this is just silly. His son could just as easily have been sitting reading a book for 12 hour straight. Or watching TV, etc.
I think the Sun is sensationalising (no shit). I think what the Dad was trying to say is that teenagers should move around occasionaly when gaming, or generally sitting around. Which is fair enough. I don't think he was saying games killed his son.
I think the Sun is sensationalising (no shit). I think what the Dad was trying to say is that teenagers should move around occasionaly when gaming, or generally sitting around. Which is fair enough. I don't think he was saying games killed his son.