Anti-trolling, Fantasy Style

[Fire Daemon]

"But don't you see the inevitable irony, my dear troll-hunters..."

(inserted here is a mish mosh of philosophical questioning, citation and literary techniques like none before ever seen...)

*The thinks-im-better-than-you troll rises up, fangirls simply dissolving in its wake, as it prepares to get wiki on your ass*

i am an educated troll.... fear puny mortal!!!!!!!!!!!

*The Orbital dreadnought "Pointless Blog Link" opens up with full broadsides on Mobius' ship, crippling and felling her noble hull and all aboard...*

Fire walks from the shadows and looks up at Joe.

"Joe, I call you out"

 

[mshcherbatskaya]

"You got'em Darth! But we aren't done yet! It looks like we got a reader-troll down here! He may even blog."

Mshcherbatskaya barely suppressed her grin of triumph. An intellectual huh? Finally, a fight on her turf.

"Very interesting," she said to the troll in tones of almost lady-like politeness, "now let's just break down what you said, so I can make sure I fully understand your argument..."

She began walking a slow pattern around the troll, preparing to thoroughly Deconstruct his ass. Then noticing Fire taking the offensive, she stepped back. She would let Fire draw him into the open, and then she would make her attack.

(OOC: Bedtime here guys, keep up the good fight. I'll be back. Intellectual trolls are my favorite.)

 

[Fire Daemon]

"Ha you think you can debate with I, Fire Daemon. I am not afraid of your challenge!"

"You may start, if you are not scared that is"

 

[Fire Daemon]

I reply that while religion is present in modern societies they are not an effective way of transferring morals. The bible no longer has much relevance to todays societies. While the bible was once an effective way to teach morals and to provide examples of the correct way to behave in 0 AD a vast majority of the principals no longer apply.

Most religions call out other religions as false. Therefore all religions are incorect. It is often taught by religions that other religions are wrong and that the followers must either

(a) be converted
(b) be killed

If religion is saying that anyone who does not follow your religion must be forcefully converted or killed then they are not telling good morals.

I move that religion places morals of hate towards other religions and the only reason this hate is not played out because of law enforcement preventing these actions.

 

[Fire Daemon]

To follow on swifts comment;

Religion was created as a way to control the masses through a use of fear and promise of a heaven. This is still the case. I therefore proclaim that religion as a whole has no good morals and therefore it does not give good morals to society.

 

[Fire Daemon]

"As you wish Mobius"

Joe, I claim that your statement is false due to the fact that religion only places misguided, misquoted and improper morals in society because by placing these morals the churches can see more people enter the church.

Case in point, the collection plate.

The church claims that it is a good moral to place money in the collection plate. I believe that the by claiming that people should put money in the collection plate people will believe that it is a sin not to put money in the collection plate. Seeing as how it is taught that those who sin go to hell then people will place money in the collection plate to not go to hell.

Scarring people to give money is the same as stealing. Stealing is taught by the same religion to be wrong. Hence I claim that religion has no morals if this (and many other) moral is cancelled out by each other. If something has no morals then it cannot teach morals.

 

[Fire Daemon]

Most religions call out other religions as false. Therefore all religions are incorect.

if all religions are incorrect than how does the teachings of a religion classify others as incorrect, please avoid paradox where possible

It is often taught by religions that other religions are wrong and that the followers must either

(a) be converted
(b) be killed

If religion is saying that anyone who does not follow your religion must be forcefully converted or killed then they are not telling good morals.

todays society

i dont see many heretics hung outside my local church these days, demon

I move that religion places morals of hate towards other religions and the only reason this hate is not played out because of law enforcement preventing these actions.

here you redeem yourself... but go on to forget that all religions posses such morals at their core, in TODAYS society, because we have the control of authority, such competition means that the most effective at transmitting its teachings (said morals) becomes the most popular, its natural selection, fire demon, meaning that the religion that succeeds will be the one that encourages moral conduct the best. what you have just pointed out is an argument for my side that even i hadnt thought of yet... thank you


EDIT: i almost forgot the battle overhead...

aboard the research centre, i call upon my sleeper agent, the war-droid: "Evidence of Questionable Data!"

he nullifies all output of the research station until he can be wiped from existence! (i rather like this metaphor)

As such, the temporal instability allows my ships to re-appear fully functioning and armed to the teeth!

My reinforcements, the Galaxy-carrier "Random Opinionated People from Google" warps in, and suddenly all your weapons output is reduced to nothing by their grammatical, factual, spelling and lore Fanaticism

Yes but religions teach morals from over 2000 years ago. Seeing as how these morals no longer apply to todays society I claim that religion is teaching nothing to modern society. Instead it is something such as the law teaching the morals.

 

[Fire Daemon]

Yes but religions teach morals from over 2000 years ago. Seeing as how these morals no longer apply to todays society I claim that religion is teaching nothing to modern society. Instead it is something such as the law teaching the morals.

You say such morals are irrelevant, but then say the law itself is teaching them! for a 3 sentence riposte you have fit a staggeringly large contradiction in there

religion is a more effective method of social placation than the law, it leads a flock, not drives a herd.

and i explained in my previous post why the morals are still relevant, a 'natural selection' takes place, the best morals for a society win out, adopted through the most popular religion, do you even read my writing, or can you simply not comprehend it? I was going to make relevance to memes and a memeplex, but i highly doubt you would understand the concept, let alone their application here.

It is not the religion that selects the morals to be told to society but instead the law. Why is the fact that murder is illegal but not gluttony. Why does the law not inforce the need to love thy neighbour but does arrest thieves. It seems that the law does choose what morals to enforce otherwise worshipping "false" idols would be a criminal offense.

I have also found nothing to disprove my collection point case.

OOC Fire is out. Be back tomorrow