Obviously you have licked an ashtray. I've just got to know what possessed you. Did you lose a bet? Get really drunk? What was it?JET1971 said:
Are people too hard on smokers?
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I agree that smokers are hated on, but at the same time (like many other people in this thread) I can't stand the smell.
Oh well smokers can meet many more people that non smokers. All you need to do is ask for a light or a cigarette and you've already broken the ice and created a common ground so it evens out a bit i think...
Oh well smokers can meet many more people that non smokers. All you need to do is ask for a light or a cigarette and you've already broken the ice and created a common ground so it evens out a bit i think...
I hate smokers. Nothing worse than nearly getting to that damn safe room but at the last second getting dragged out into the middle of a horde of screaming zombies.
Love being a smoker though. It's awesome greifing fun at times. That said, I hate the between death waiting times.
Funnily enough this reference holds true to a certain extent. As a non-smoker, it is really obnoxious to have to breathe in the smoke of another say, on a street corner as you are waiting for the little man to turn green. If they want to do it in a smoking designated place, then great. That's their turf. But in a shared situation the person with what could be considered a vile or repulsive habit, should give way to others around who have no power over their addiction to breathing.
Love being a smoker though. It's awesome greifing fun at times. That said, I hate the between death waiting times.
Funnily enough this reference holds true to a certain extent. As a non-smoker, it is really obnoxious to have to breathe in the smoke of another say, on a street corner as you are waiting for the little man to turn green. If they want to do it in a smoking designated place, then great. That's their turf. But in a shared situation the person with what could be considered a vile or repulsive habit, should give way to others around who have no power over their addiction to breathing.
I'd never refrain from becoming friends with someone just because they smoked. I think it's a dumb and often morally reprehensible thing to do, but it seems stupid to separate myself from intelligent, funny and kind people just because they have a habit I don't agree with.
I hate cigarettes. I think they're pointless and they smell like shit.
However, I own a tobacco pipe. I don't use it too often, maybe twice a month. I also like cigars, but I barely ever touch them. I see cigar smoking as a skill that should only be done with people around to impress.
I do like the ban of cigarettes in most places. I wish I could smoke my pipe in a pub though. I want to find a corner of a tavern and read Tolkien while I smoke a pipe and drink something stout, and that's just not possible anymore.
However, I own a tobacco pipe. I don't use it too often, maybe twice a month. I also like cigars, but I barely ever touch them. I see cigar smoking as a skill that should only be done with people around to impress.
I do like the ban of cigarettes in most places. I wish I could smoke my pipe in a pub though. I want to find a corner of a tavern and read Tolkien while I smoke a pipe and drink something stout, and that's just not possible anymore.
Some of my best friends smoke, even though I think it's a disgusting habit. I don't mind people smoking unless they bother others with it. As long as they don't, I won't complain. I've never tried to talk those friends out of their smoking habit. It's their choice, and they're not bad people because they smoke.
We shouldn't ignore such serious health issues. You see an ad every day and it won't do anything to effect them. There's life choices and there's simply ruining and shortening your own life. People who are angry at smokers for being a nuisance or fat people for being ugly are arrogant snobs you're talking about but in the cases where people are actually worried for their health - if one of your closer friends or family smoked heavily or was obese. Wouldn't you be worried for their health and try to get their to stop so they DON'T die earlier? That is why we should be hard on them - so they stop killing themselves so tragically.Devornine said:
I personally think some people are to hard on smokers, I myself smoke and started because I find it relaxing and it helps me deal with stress and other issues. But I do my best to stay away from other people when I am smoking, if I ever have to smoke indoors I quite literally hang out of my bedroom window.
I would also like to point out i do not have multiple ciggarettes a day, i go some days without smoking at all, the only situations I do feel the need to smoke are: A)under stress or pressure, B) having to put up with extremely annoying people, and C) When I have been out drinking alcohol. (not trying to take some kind of moral high ground just pointing out a fact) If people are going to hate on me, I would prefer if it was a better reason than "because I smoke".
I would also like to point out i do not have multiple ciggarettes a day, i go some days without smoking at all, the only situations I do feel the need to smoke are: A)under stress or pressure, B) having to put up with extremely annoying people, and C) When I have been out drinking alcohol. (not trying to take some kind of moral high ground just pointing out a fact) If people are going to hate on me, I would prefer if it was a better reason than "because I smoke".
People hate on smokers too much. Most people are dicks if they are given an excuse. Many see someone's choice to smoke as a good reason to let their inner dick start running their mouth. As a non-smoker who has had a few cigs over the years I know that smoking can help relax a person or relieve stress. It can also enhance other things (such as cigars with whiskey that has been stored in smokey barrels). While a gf smoking first thing in the morning then wanting to kiss me is nasty, she can always use listerine.
After reading about 4 pages of this thread I can say, without hesitation, that a lot of smokers deserve to be hated on because they completly ignore all the "yeah well, do what you want to as long as you do not harrass other people with it" posts and simply state the fact that its their life and that they have the right to make everyone else miserable^^
But since all "deserves group x to be hated" questions are anwsered by "well that depends on the person" I guess the anwser is no, smokers dont deserve all the hate - its just that some of the dicks, that also happen to be smokers, are making you look bad
And I would agree that hating smokers out of reasons like "he kills himself" are utterly stupid
But since all "deserves group x to be hated" questions are anwsered by "well that depends on the person" I guess the anwser is no, smokers dont deserve all the hate - its just that some of the dicks, that also happen to be smokers, are making you look bad
And I would agree that hating smokers out of reasons like "he kills himself" are utterly stupid
I think it's a disgusting habit and I, too, wouldn't date a smoker.
I only "care" about smoking when it directly affects me, however. So, while I love my sister and hate the fact that she is a smoker, I won't begrudge her the habit until she purposely smokes in my face. If you're going to smoke, at least be decent enough to stand downwind of me (and not smoke near me while I am eating).
I only "care" about smoking when it directly affects me, however. So, while I love my sister and hate the fact that she is a smoker, I won't begrudge her the habit until she purposely smokes in my face. If you're going to smoke, at least be decent enough to stand downwind of me (and not smoke near me while I am eating).
Wow, this is the stupidest post ever. I can honestly sit here and say I can count how many times I've smoked while having a drink on one hand, not to mention I can definitely say this has never occured to me; "Oh, I'm craving a cigarette, better pour myself a rum and coke."Aprilgold said:
"Well, I just picked up a carton, better get a 40 of vodka to wash this down with."
Smokers do not USUALLY drink, there are some smokers who SOMETIMES decide drink when they smoke, CERTAIN people drink to get drunk, and...you know what, your blanket statements are too insane to continue on with. It must be nice to see the world through ignorant tunnel vision all the time.
I've seen non-smokers get wasted and plow their car into another car, I've seen chain smokers do the same. And at the end of the night, it came down to the person being a jackass and having horrible judgement, and sure as hell not because they lit up a cigarette.
I can go out, have a few smokes, and extremely rarely, have a few drinks (just to simply enjoy a drink, not to get wasted) then call myself a cab / walk home, and wake up the next fucking day. Where exactly in your chain reaction statement do I fall?
Regardless, my opinion on the matter has already been written and voiced much better than I could ever put very early on in this thread. Even when I wasn't a smoker I wouldn't care if someone lit up in my room, my house, my car, next to me on bus, or in my hospital room. Do what you want to do, everyone else does anyways and they sure don't give a fuck what you think.
Honestly though, I try to dodge non-smokers when lighting up. If I was waiting for the bus alone as a kid in a bus shelter, even if it was raining if a non-smoker came in I'd go outside of it. I'm not going to force my habit on you, but at the same time if some asshole sees me light up 5 feet away from him and decides to give me some free medical advice about how horrible I am for smoking within a province of him, I'm so, so much more inclined to give him some medical advice back about how to get my boot out of his ass.
The dating thing, either way. As a non-smoker, I dated smokers, now that I'm a smoker I've dated non-smokers and smokers alike, although prefer the smokers for not ragging on me about quitting, just like I hate vegetarians that willingly come to a restaurant with me then chastise me for ordering the endangered species special on the menu. Fuck off and live your own life, don't you have your own shit to criticize?
Yup, all the coughing and shortness of breath must make them feel brilliant.Alleged_Alec said:
The inflated ego must make you feel like a million bucks. I wish my choices made me feel as entitled as you.Abengoshis said:
Btw, run track and haven't had to cough from a smoke since the first one, but good try, blanket-statement.
Yeah, I never have a problem with that. I eat right and exercise, if I want to have a cigarette, I do that too. I think it's funny that it's still okay to be a judgmental prick to smokers when there are so many other good reasons to hate people right?Abengoshis said:
One thing I find is interesting: If a smoker is outside having a cigarette, and someone comes by and asks for one, or a light, often we'll have a nice little conversation. I watch all these other people walking by and ignoring each other and I've made a new acquaintance.
Interesting fact though: 100% of non-smokers die.
I don't care about the habits of smokers, my gripe with smokers is this: If you want to stink up the place, do it where everyone else isn't, not everyone wants to go home smelling of smoke, if I wanted that, I'd go burn something and stand as close to the smoke as possible.
Secondly, I wouldn't date a girl who smoked because of the same reason, its a disgusting taste and smell.
Thirdly, passive smoking is more damaging then direct smoking.
Basically, if you have the nerve to complain about someone who smells of BO, food or something else, then everyone has the right to complain about your smokey smell.
Other than that, I have no issue with smoking, many of my friends are smokers, but they are considerate, they ask where is appropriate to smoke when they go places, they smoke away from me and even in their OWN cars they ask if its okay if they smoke, of course I can't tell them no in their own car, that would be like telling someone their music sucks in their own house, and even if I can't really say no considering picking me up and giving me a lift is a favour, its nice that they were considerate enough to ask.
The mass majority of smokers on the other hand don't do that, including the stupid woman smoking near an outdoor restaurant I was at today, puffing her chimney at me and everyone else including kids. Go be a chimney someplace else -_-
Secondly, I wouldn't date a girl who smoked because of the same reason, its a disgusting taste and smell.
Thirdly, passive smoking is more damaging then direct smoking.
Basically, if you have the nerve to complain about someone who smells of BO, food or something else, then everyone has the right to complain about your smokey smell.
Other than that, I have no issue with smoking, many of my friends are smokers, but they are considerate, they ask where is appropriate to smoke when they go places, they smoke away from me and even in their OWN cars they ask if its okay if they smoke, of course I can't tell them no in their own car, that would be like telling someone their music sucks in their own house, and even if I can't really say no considering picking me up and giving me a lift is a favour, its nice that they were considerate enough to ask.
The mass majority of smokers on the other hand don't do that, including the stupid woman smoking near an outdoor restaurant I was at today, puffing her chimney at me and everyone else including kids. Go be a chimney someplace else -_-