Meh, one of my best mates smokes, I don't hold it against him. He always does it outside and avoids being near any involuntary people. It's all in the atitude.
Are people too hard on smokers?
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You people bring up alot of good points. Originally I thought people meant it as "you smoke so you're a bad person" I had not considered that you wouldn't want to get emotionally involved with someone harming themselves. I suppose that thought never crossed my mind with any of my smoker friends/girlfriends. Guess I'm a little self centered hahaha.
So is it okay to treat someone who wears too much cologne all the time that harsh?ravensheart18 said:
and I suppose eats too many onions or something for the taste hahah
Couldn't agree more. I couldn't care less about the health risks, etc, all personal choices. The only hangup I have is that it smells bad. Don't think you should be able to smoke indoors, call that a bit of forced courtesy as cigarette smoke is very offensive to non-smokers. So yeah, if you don't smell like an ashtray it really doesn't bother me. If you do then the reason I'm shunning you is probably the massive headache that's developing on account of the smell....nothing personal.fix-the-spade said:
People DO hate on and avoid folks that wear too much cologne, or have awful breath, or that don't shower. Go eat a few sprigs of garlic and try to spark up a conversation with some stranger, see what happens.The Red Bastard said:
If you smell unpleasant it changes how people react to you. Doesn't much matter how you arrive there.
I would not get "physically involved" with a habitual smoker.
However, as a cashier/clerk, I aim to please, and will do what I can to provide for their wants. However, I do hold a grudge against those and alcohol, especially with all the illogical varieties of the things ("Marlboro Light Special Blend shorts in a box" = Why don't they just provide a features checklist?) that I personally don't care for/about, and that I'd rather just not exist.
I will befriend a person who smokes/drinks, but at most will be tolerant of the activity in action. Thankfully, I haven't had many situations where a smoker has smoked in an enclosed area with me. That kind of consideration is definitely appreciated.
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I also physically react to weird smells/gases, usually huffing out my nostrils, like a cat or dog does when they wiff something funny (though hopefully with less head twitching/twisting, unless I'm feeling particularly obvious).
I also ("echo...!") consider it one of the most ridiculous wastes of money. Here, it's five [US] bucks plus for a pack, and about $50 for a carton. I can feed my frivolous gaming (who am I kidding: game-collecting) habit with that kind of scratch. And to what benefit? What taste, what self-image, and what social situation is worth that kind of money-sink on product and eventual, expedited medical expenses? If you want to hang out with your friends on a smoke break, just do so. Yeah, you may cough, but that could be part of the laughs in the time out.
However, as a cashier/clerk, I aim to please, and will do what I can to provide for their wants. However, I do hold a grudge against those and alcohol, especially with all the illogical varieties of the things ("Marlboro Light Special Blend shorts in a box" = Why don't they just provide a features checklist?) that I personally don't care for/about, and that I'd rather just not exist.
I will befriend a person who smokes/drinks, but at most will be tolerant of the activity in action. Thankfully, I haven't had many situations where a smoker has smoked in an enclosed area with me. That kind of consideration is definitely appreciated.
EDIT:
I also physically react to weird smells/gases, usually huffing out my nostrils, like a cat or dog does when they wiff something funny (though hopefully with less head twitching/twisting, unless I'm feeling particularly obvious).
I also ("echo...!") consider it one of the most ridiculous wastes of money. Here, it's five [US] bucks plus for a pack, and about $50 for a carton. I can feed my frivolous gaming (who am I kidding: game-collecting) habit with that kind of scratch. And to what benefit? What taste, what self-image, and what social situation is worth that kind of money-sink on product and eventual, expedited medical expenses? If you want to hang out with your friends on a smoke break, just do so. Yeah, you may cough, but that could be part of the laughs in the time out.
Because smoking is a habbit that grows worse and worse unless the person knows how to control it properly, its like with drinking, smoking and drinking go hand an hand, people who smoke usually drink, people who drink get drunk, people who are drunk become stupid, simple. But also, people who ONLY smoke have a very large tendency to not be bothered to move else where to smoke, I've seen it in a CHILDS HOSPITAL at one time, a man was standing in line, smoking a old timey cigar, so it obviously was unfiltered, making even more smoke, when a person asked the man to leave, he wouldn't budge, and blew smoke into the old mans face, I helped the old man get up and into a chair [he was VERY old, the smoke could have probably killed him if there were more of it] it was very nasty of a site to watch, but then the man was escorted off the premises by 2 security guards until they had his cigarettes and lighter in hand.
Some people have a real stick up their arse when it comes to smoking- Ive had drunken mates snatch ciggies out of my mouth claiming "its for your own good!".
And antismokers are real easy to get a rise out of- after they've finished blow smoke in their face, their silly little rages are funny.
And antismokers are real easy to get a rise out of- after they've finished blow smoke in their face, their silly little rages are funny.
How exactly indulging in something that's a little self-destructive automatically qualifies you for stupidity? Maybe they do something that's unwise, but that doing something idiotic doesn't make you an idiot.RabbidKuriboh said:
Point taken. Its nice to see someone put it bluntly that they are unpleasant to be around, as opposed to judging them on their decision making ability.MartialArc said:
I think part of it is that the vast majority of the Escapist's community are quite young. If I can (dimly) recall my youth correctly, it's a lot easier to hold absolutist positions when you're young and haven't been forced by life to compromise much yet. As you get older you are forced by the simple necessity of getting along in the world to take a more fluid stance on many issues or, if you don't, to become a bit (more) of a social outcast. Of course, many adults do hold absolutist positions on many things, but such people tend to be derided as "out of touch" or even "extremist".
This is just stupidity. now i know that smoking is"bad" for you, but what isnt in this day and age. the issue that really pisses me off is the fact that second hand smoke is total BS. now if you worked in a bar,etc for years and years thats one thing, but the american lung association outright lying about the effects of second hand smoke is just a jihad. case in point, the figures they use to back up their second hand smoke scare tactics are based on anyone whoever was around a smoker EVER dieing of not being shot,hit by a bus,etc. so if u die at 98 of "natural causes" that's a second hand smoke death. i've been smoking for 16 years and i really try to not effect others with my habit. i try to stay away from others even out side, smoke in smoke areas when available, and will even refrain from smoking if i know ill be in close quarters (i.e. a car, or small room) with non smokers. i have been married to a non smoker for 12 years. she doesnt like me smoking now that much as im getting older and she doesnt want me to die, but she also knows im not going to immediately develop lung cancer either. in fact her biggest issue is the smell, and to fix that she bought me a $300 pipe to smoke instead. let me just tell you, for every 1 person who said" u stink, smoking stinks,etc" now i get like 20 people practically humping me to smell me because of my pipe. as for the the people who have asthma or whatever, im sorry you have bad genes and are there for genetically inferior to the rest of us. that may sound harsh and i wouldnt blow smoke in ur face but just like i wouldnt give up peanut butter for all the new freak nut allergy pple who just suddenly appeared(1 freaking kid in my whole childhood had that, now like 1 in 3 have it) im not gonna quit smoking because u might smell me 5 hours later. i could go on and on about WHY all of the sudden every kid/person has a nut allergy,asbergers,add, reproductive issues(ladies),asthma,etc,(could be environment, degrading of our genetics and i dont me like interracial coupling by that,fast food, pollution, or and this is my choice, over reactive parents and in-titled jerk face adults) but the simple answer is U R NOT MY PROBLEM, leave me alone and i couldnt give a rats ass if u deem me worthy of ur presence
I had a drunk mate do that to me as well... so I broke one of his fingers. Told him it was for his own good because sntaching things out of people's mouths is just asking for trouble.Togs said:
I don't care about people who smoke. A lot of my friends smoke, and they smoke around me (both tobacco and weed). I don't mind it, and it doesn't bother me in the slightest. They make their own choices. I choose not to smoke.
doing something that costs you shitloads of money, damages your health, gives you clothes and breath that smell like death's arsecrack, of course it isn't all bad there are benifits like........er.......no wait...........9thRequiem said:
surely these people are the next evolutionary step for the human race
I hate smoking not smokers. It makes the smoker smell bad and is terrible for there health. If I wanted to go out with a smoker I would try to get them to quit first.
Agreed.DJDarque said:
I think smoking is a disgusting and ultimately useless habit that only does bad things in the end. But you know what? There are much worse things that people can do and one shouldn't judge all aspects of a person based on if they smoke. Or if they don't smoke. I know smokers who are really nice people and I know non-smokers who are bigger assholes than any smoker I've encountered.
That said, if someone is disrespectful, that is, smokes in my face or something of the like, I will speak my mind.