How do i change the title to 'Are kids getting stupider or not paying enough attention in class' ?
'Are todays kids getting more stupid or not paying enough attention in lessons?
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This is depressingly stupid, but the Daily Mirror isn?t exactly the most reliable source. They probably went to all the council estates and rounded up all the idiots.
Also, has anyone ever met someone that participated in one of these surveys?
Also, has anyone ever met someone that participated in one of these surveys?
Hahaha.. I would say that studying the wars at degree level means that i take great 'offense' at that result in children.
But you can't really blame them! I mean come on, how many of us when we were NINE knew about the world wars in great depth? Or anything about the holocaust! Okay there are things that hopefully people would know like who Hitler was, but even at nine years old its still pushing it a little.
this poll should of been taken between ages '12-16', to judge a child on its knowledge before its in double figures i mean come on! Harsh bastards!
But you can't really blame them! I mean come on, how many of us when we were NINE knew about the world wars in great depth? Or anything about the holocaust! Okay there are things that hopefully people would know like who Hitler was, but even at nine years old its still pushing it a little.
this poll should of been taken between ages '12-16', to judge a child on its knowledge before its in double figures i mean come on! Harsh bastards!
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2. This is just history. Not an overall representation of intelligence. Hell, it's pretty much entirely memory-based.
3. '2000 children in a survey' children from where? Only 2000? What level of education were they in? Were they mentally disabled or come from a disadvantaged background? 9-15? How many of those surveyed were 9, may I ask? There are millions of children in this country, any 2000 of which can be cherry picked into a survey such as this.
4. When you are not being graded you do not perform. Especially when you are a kid. You see all those funny exam question answers on the internet? They show that even in potentially life changing exams kids will still joke. And what they find funny may insult you tremendously. If I put a poll up saying, and I quote an earlier post:
We're not stupid, our knowledge is just different to yours. Tell me, how many of your grandparents can use a computer as well as I can?
Christ, the very fact you take this article as fact without any kind of meaningful analysis baffles me; and, I'm only 16.
Way to change the topic title, by the way. Very diplomatic of you. "is todays kids getting stupid" must've been to inflammatory, I guess.
1. It's the daily mail, for goodness sake. Why are you even humouring it?TheJackel2008 said:
2. This is just history. Not an overall representation of intelligence. Hell, it's pretty much entirely memory-based.
3. '2000 children in a survey' children from where? Only 2000? What level of education were they in? Were they mentally disabled or come from a disadvantaged background? 9-15? How many of those surveyed were 9, may I ask? There are millions of children in this country, any 2000 of which can be cherry picked into a survey such as this.
4. When you are not being graded you do not perform. Especially when you are a kid. You see all those funny exam question answers on the internet? They show that even in potentially life changing exams kids will still joke. And what they find funny may insult you tremendously. If I put a poll up saying, and I quote an earlier post:
I could conclusively prove that a significant part of the escapist thought that "Fish" was a number.
We're not stupid, our knowledge is just different to yours. Tell me, how many of your grandparents can use a computer as well as I can?
Christ, the very fact you take this article as fact without any kind of meaningful analysis baffles me; and, I'm only 16.
That, among many other numbers quoted from that frankly awful source, show that the ignorants are the definite minority in the group. Now go back to school, learn to spell, learn some grammar, learn some empathy, learn how to think critically, and learn some damn respect.From the same article said:
Way to change the topic title, by the way. Very diplomatic of you. "is todays kids getting stupid" must've been to inflammatory, I guess.
I'm a kid, I knew all those things, and I wasn't even taught anything about the world wars. I think the majority of kids aren't getting dumber, it's just we don't care as much, we're arrogant. We think, this doesn't matter, I'll turn out fine. I hate to say, I kind of think that, but I'm one of the lucky ones who doesn't really need to try their hardest to do well (I'm not trying to sound arrogant). The internet does serve as a distraction to most kids, so we kind of blow off doing important things or increasing our knowledge of important things.
Also, is the title a joke? I hope it's a joke.
EDIT: For anyone who cares, I'm 14, grade 9, Canadian, my marks so far are A-, A+, 96, 80. The last two are numbers because the first two people were lazy and did letters. -.-
Also, is the title a joke? I hope it's a joke.
EDIT: For anyone who cares, I'm 14, grade 9, Canadian, my marks so far are A-, A+, 96, 80. The last two are numbers because the first two people were lazy and did letters. -.-
God damn your Bushisms.Strategia said:The question isn't, is todays kids getting stupid? The question is, is our children learning?
This is complete bullcrap, being a 15 year old in England, I can tell you two things:
1. This is one of the most unreliable sources i know of (next to fox news).
2. No-one who has been in education for more that a year or two would say these things, they were probably just taking the piss out of the interviewer.
I don't know about other countries, but here in England we like an entirely non-bias approach to these sort of things; we just decide that everything to do with education, teachers, tests, children, the curriculum, is shite.
If children score higher than the previous year, this is obviously an indication that the tests are getting easier.
If the children score lower than the previous year, this is an obvious indication that the newest generation is pig-shit-stupid.
Unless we're looking to blame someone, then it's the teachers fault.
If children score higher than the previous year, this is obviously an indication that the tests are getting easier.
If the children score lower than the previous year, this is an obvious indication that the newest generation is pig-shit-stupid.
Unless we're looking to blame someone, then it's the teachers fault.
If you actually believe this then you are just as dense as you claim these kids to be. Seriously what would make you think that a 15 year old wouldnt know about WW2 at all.
Of course I don't believe this but I thought it could be true but it's very unlikely that it is true.SnootyEnglishman said:
Has it occurred to the OP that the kids were taking the piss on the test? I mean, all the poll options at the moment indicate that he hasn't considered that the children surveyed here weren't taking it seriously, and are fairly inflammatory in that there is no option implying that they are not 'more stupid'. Have we got a comparable survey from years gone by to see what the responses were like then? maybe the kids were just as 'stupid' before, and they've only just noticed.
Not that I believe this to be representative anyway. The Daily Mail? Seriously?
Not that I believe this to be representative anyway. The Daily Mail? Seriously?
just because kids know less about the world wars today than they used to doesn't mean that they are stupid, their are far more indicators saying that kids smarter today than they used to be.
besides you are probably right about this study being very biased.
besides you are probably right about this study being very biased.
