Yes and it affects my abilities..when I was young I'd complete Sonic 2 no problem, now Sonic 2 no saves is really hardNot G. Ivingname said:
Are Video Games getting easier?
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I think it is better say that games have got less difficult - meaning that games these days now have much better quality control, so games that are impossibly hard simply through dodgy programming are becoming rarer.
The invention of game saves has made everything easier - but the only reason they weren't instituted in earlier games was because of the technological limitations.
The invention of game saves has made everything easier - but the only reason they weren't instituted in earlier games was because of the technological limitations.
Nope, and peoples arguments that contra and those games didn't have saves and checkpoints is a flawed argument. Mostly because videogames has evolved into something more than just stupid kill everyone kind of game(mostly, there are some nostalgic ones that does that still).
Comparing modern games with those old ones is like comparing a movie with an IQ test.
It's not a bad movie just because theres no test every five minutes that you have to score a certain amount to continue.
Besides, most modern games is more about you going through a journey rather than beating an invincible foe.
Would anyone here play any modern game if you couldn't get past the prologue without being a god of reflexes and multitasking?
Comparing modern games with those old ones is like comparing a movie with an IQ test.
It's not a bad movie just because theres no test every five minutes that you have to score a certain amount to continue.
Besides, most modern games is more about you going through a journey rather than beating an invincible foe.
Would anyone here play any modern game if you couldn't get past the prologue without being a god of reflexes and multitasking?
Friended because of your avatar.SirBryghtside said:
OT: No. A million times no. The level of difficulty in games has stayed about the same since the SNES days, and that's where it should stay.
I'm sorry but this discussion has been done to death, and then someone dug it up, 'mishandled' it and buried it again.
Retro games are harder because they were unforgiving due to the nature of arcades. This having evolved over time meant that games don't need to eat all those tasty nickels or whatever you American people call your money. Games were already a lot easier in the PS / N64 / dreamcast and whatnot era.
Oh, if you take casual games (see 90% of wii games) into this discussion, then really they can't even be classed as easy as any form of challenge is non-existent.
Retro games are harder because they were unforgiving due to the nature of arcades. This having evolved over time meant that games don't need to eat all those tasty nickels or whatever you American people call your money. Games were already a lot easier in the PS / N64 / dreamcast and whatnot era.
Oh, if you take casual games (see 90% of wii games) into this discussion, then really they can't even be classed as easy as any form of challenge is non-existent.
Bionic Commando was pretty tough on the higher difficulties.
However, most games today are much easier than those in the past.
However, most games today are much easier than those in the past.
I agree completely with this statement. I can remember as a kid, just getting started with my gaming life, I didnt see anything coming when playing RPG's and the like. Though after years of gaming I can now guess the best strategies in most RPGs. Example "Oh, look! A Giant Robot boss!I must have to use lightning or water magic on it!" or "Oh! A fire demon! Throw Ice at it!"Darzen said:
And as someone said before about a glowing spot, that too, after awhile you sort of instinctively know that's probably the weak spot. And finally we'll go by the usual "Three hits you win" rule. When fighting a boss 9/10 out of ten if you hit it's weak point three times it'll die (Or go on to the next phase. If so repeat)
Games are getting easier. I will use the typical Goldeneye 007 rule. Back then, you had no regenerating health, only a life bar and that's it. Maybe armour if you can find it. Now you have your halos and call of duties where your health just pops back up if you hide like you're some kind of superhero.
There are a few exceptions though. Lost Planet 2 is ball crunchingly hard, especially if you play it on your own, as is Demon's Souls.
As a side note, i found ME2's Insane difficulty to be relatively easy, especially compared to ME1's insane mode. The only tough part for me was...
There are a few exceptions though. Lost Planet 2 is ball crunchingly hard, especially if you play it on your own, as is Demon's Souls.
As a side note, i found ME2's Insane difficulty to be relatively easy, especially compared to ME1's insane mode. The only tough part for me was...
When i was in the Reaper vessel, on that stupid hovering platform, while other platforms with collectors hovered over to you. If they overwhelmed you you had nowhere to run to, just your useless one piece of cover. NOT helpful when the Harbinger decides to come up close and personal.
Didn't say that FPSes were easier than platformers. Just that they're different beasts.igissx said:
Games aren't getting easier - players are just getting used to them - all games are so similar in overall core design that you're already skilled, somewhat, at the vast majority of games before you play them.
f you've never played a genre before you'll think it's difficult, but if you've played any third-person action game, regardless of sub-genre, you'll find the next game easier because you understand the fundamental design.
f you've never played a genre before you'll think it's difficult, but if you've played any third-person action game, regardless of sub-genre, you'll find the next game easier because you understand the fundamental design.
It's silly to compare living room games to classic coin-op games. Those were designed (almost) expressly to kill you as often as possible to keep you feeding quarters to the machine.
Games on the earliest consoles needed to do a lot, with very little. Obscene difficulty and limited lives were answers to games that, without such challenge, would be beaten not even in an afternoon, but in, say, an hour. If you could play, say, the first Mega Man or Contra with regenerating health, you'd finish it in, literally, minutes to an hour. Now, despite the various "concessions" developers now make to playability, a modern game with said regenerating health and infinite lives can take upwards of several days to complete. They don't need to obfuscate things with obscene levels of challenge for the consumer to appreciate the perceived value of what they are playing.
(and this doesn't even touch on stodgy or slippery controls or baddies that, quite literally, move faster than the player's character can respond without memory-test training, and what-not, all the stuff that earns games failing grades in today's market)
I don't think that it's really that games are any easier, by and large, it still takes highly trained and adapted hand-eye coordination to even play modern games.
The problem is, is that this is a place comprised largely of a bunch of dedicated gamers who have grown up around games, along with all of their evolution, or are younger gamers who hardly know any alternative to the modern game. It's easy to say that for most of us, our opinion is heavily biased.
When you've been around modern gameplay your entire life, or were able to evolve into it, it intrinsically seems easier-- In much the same way those of the "Baby-Boomer" generation are repeatedly baffled by PC's and modern portable technology, but your average elementary school kid these days probably knew how to use a computer (and troubleshoot, too!) as soon as they could walk and talk!
It's all a matter of perspective.
Games on the earliest consoles needed to do a lot, with very little. Obscene difficulty and limited lives were answers to games that, without such challenge, would be beaten not even in an afternoon, but in, say, an hour. If you could play, say, the first Mega Man or Contra with regenerating health, you'd finish it in, literally, minutes to an hour. Now, despite the various "concessions" developers now make to playability, a modern game with said regenerating health and infinite lives can take upwards of several days to complete. They don't need to obfuscate things with obscene levels of challenge for the consumer to appreciate the perceived value of what they are playing.
(and this doesn't even touch on stodgy or slippery controls or baddies that, quite literally, move faster than the player's character can respond without memory-test training, and what-not, all the stuff that earns games failing grades in today's market)
I don't think that it's really that games are any easier, by and large, it still takes highly trained and adapted hand-eye coordination to even play modern games.
The problem is, is that this is a place comprised largely of a bunch of dedicated gamers who have grown up around games, along with all of their evolution, or are younger gamers who hardly know any alternative to the modern game. It's easy to say that for most of us, our opinion is heavily biased.
When you've been around modern gameplay your entire life, or were able to evolve into it, it intrinsically seems easier-- In much the same way those of the "Baby-Boomer" generation are repeatedly baffled by PC's and modern portable technology, but your average elementary school kid these days probably knew how to use a computer (and troubleshoot, too!) as soon as they could walk and talk!
It's all a matter of perspective.
I don't think so. I used to have a hard time with Super Mario Bros, but I just played that game today and beat it easily. It might've been because I was playing as Bill and blew everything away with the spread gun though.
When three deaths means you get to see the title screen, you BET you learned not to die.Veldt Falsetto said:
Yeah, it's hard, but mostly because it just takes cheap shots at you in the favela sections... This must be my at least 5th favela level hating post this week...silver wolf009 said:
Another question - is it a bad thing if games are getting easier? There's certainly less frustration nowadays, and the medium is expanding rapidly with regards to number of users. This makes video gaming less of the socially stigmatic hobby it was once seen as being, which can only be a good thing!