Are you a patriot?

[ProfessorLayton]

I love this country because why not? I mean, of course we've got problems but why hate my country? That's just a very childish thing to do.

 

[Veritas0323]

Yes. I'm Israeli, and I believe firmly in my people's right to our thousands of years old homeland. I'm especially proud of having left a much easier life in America to come here because of my ideology, and soon I will be serving in the military to defend my country against those who wish to kill us and take our home.

must resist urge to get started about this

OT: i like living in America and all but i don't like the government (Dems. are incompetent, don't get me started about Republicans)and I'm not proud of a lot of the things that our country has done.

 

[Jonny49]

Nope. Not because there's anything especially wrong with England but because it's pretty ignorant to be patriotic to your country simply because you were born in it. Also I've always thought patriotism caused alot of problems.

 

[mokes310]

Oh Nationalism, have we learned nothing from your propaganda?

 

[AWAR]

Nah there are more than enough "patriots" here..

 

[LiquidGrape]

im British, and i myself am a patriot even though we are not allowed to be in England in case we offend someone

Good joke - next you'll be telling us it's political correctness gone maaaaaaaad!

Now wait a second. Why does that sound so familiar...
2:20 and onwards.
AHA!

 

[Shock and Awe]

I suppose I am a patriot, I love mt country and plan to join the Air Force, but I really don't refer to myself as one because it brings to mind all those tea party idiots.

 

[Mechanix]

I like the 2 countries I've lived in, but I'd only fight and die for them if they were fighting something evil.

 

[Ericb]

Yes. I'm Israeli, and I believe firmly in my people's right to our thousands of years old homeland. I'm especially proud of having left a much easier life in America to come here because of my ideology, and soon I will be serving in the military to defend my country against those who wish to kill us and take our home.

While I don't doubt your sincerity, I think that conflict is a bit more complicated than that. On both sides.

I would say something, but your reply to his views manage to be quite respectful and to the point.

But then again I will admit that to an extent my pro-American fanaticism is in part in reaction to all of the Anti-Americanism which I get tired of.

Admiting is the first part of the healing process. =)

Might I suggest looking into the reasons for such a cultural backlash as a second step?

Patriotism is silly, if you ask me. It basically amounts to "This country is better than all others because it's the one I was born in.

Yeah, I totally agree. I'm from Brazil, and am pretty happy that I was born in a legimate melting pot of the most bizarrely different cultures of the planet.

Happy, but not proud, because I don't have any merit in it. Not yet anyway.

I believe if you are proud of your nation, then you also have to be ashamed for the bad things it has done in the past. You can't be one without the other, and to do so is incredibly foolish/idiotic/stupid/ignorant but it also seems a strange idea to be ashamed/proud of something just because the person who did it just happened to be born on a piece of dirt which is near you...seems odd

Yeah, and that's where I believe a lot of Brazilians make a grave mistake. They mistake the land for its deeply corrupt politicians. And decide that it's so shameful that it's not worth trying to make it better.

Thank heavens that a lot of people are campaiging for a new bill to pass that forbids indicted politicians to run for office. Fucking finally!!!

I'm more a patriot then the people who think they are patriots.

I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.

Yes. I'm Israeli, and I believe firmly in my people's right to our thousands of years old homeland. I'm especially proud of having left a much easier life in America to come here because of my ideology, and soon I will be serving in the military to defend my country against those who wish to kill us and take our home.

must resist urge to get started about this

I know, right?

 

[De Ronneman]

As a Dutchman, I resent the usage of the term "Holland" for our entire nation. It's kind of like saying "The north" when you refer to the complete USA. You forgot the south!

I, as many Brabanders (Southerners, Brabant is our state, sort of. It's a province, if you care, look it up), I am a major patriot as it comes to Brabant, but because the Catholic south has always been resented by the north, I don't care about them. (Not completely careless off course)

In short: yes, I am a faithfull Dutchman (Though not a guntoting, pot-smoking, clog-wearing guy in a windmill), and a patriotic Brabander. If I have to tattoo a flag on my arm, it'd be the Branbantish flag [http://www.ehvshop.nl/img/p/61-120-thickbox.jpg]. I know it's bland, but I didn't pick it.

 

[Ryokai]

Yes. I'm Israeli, and I believe firmly in my people's right to our thousands of years old homeland. I'm especially proud of having left a much easier life in America to come here because of my ideology, and soon I will be serving in the military to defend my country against those who wish to kill us and take our home.

While I don't doubt your sincerity, I think that conflict is a bit more complicated than that. On both sides.

I would say something, but your reply to his views manage to be quite respectful and to the point.

But then again I will admit that to an extent my pro-American fanaticism is in part in reaction to all of the Anti-Americanism which I get tired of.

Admiting is the first part of the healing process. =)

Might I suggest looking into the reasons for such a cultural backlash as a second step?

Patriotism is silly, if you ask me. It basically amounts to "This country is better than all others because it's the one I was born in.

Yeah, I totally agree. I'm from Brazil, and am pretty happy that I was born in a legimate melting pot of the most bizarrely different cultures of the planet.

Happy, but not proud, because I don't have any merit in it. Not yet anyway.

I believe if you are proud of your nation, then you also have to be ashamed for the bad things it has done in the past. You can't be one without the other, and to do so is incredibly foolish/idiotic/stupid/ignorant but it also seems a strange idea to be ashamed/proud of something just because the person who did it just happened to be born on a piece of dirt which is near you...seems odd

Yeah, and that's where I believe a lot of Brazilians make a grave mistake. They mistake the land for its deeply corrupt politicians. And decide that it's so shameful that it's not worth trying to make it better.

Thank heavens that a lot of people are campaiging for a new bill to pass that forbids indicted politicians to run for office. Fucking finally!!!

I'm more a patriot then the people who think they are patriots.

I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.

Yes. I'm Israeli, and I believe firmly in my people's right to our thousands of years old homeland. I'm especially proud of having left a much easier life in America to come here because of my ideology, and soon I will be serving in the military to defend my country against those who wish to kill us and take our home.

must resist urge to get started about this

I know, right?

Yeah, having a conflict about the Middle East crisis is never a good idea on the internet. All it does is get everyone involved pissed off, each one convinced only he is correct and that everyone else is wrong.

Let's begin and end with the fact that I am a patriot and will fight for my country, to defend myself and my people.

 

[Yureina]

Maybe... I really don't know anymore. I considered joining the Military and all that, but I don't think that my "patriotism" extends quite that far. However, if, for example, someone were to invade, i'd probably go into the nearby mountains and go "wolverines!" on their butts. ;P

 

[Ericb]

Yeah, having a conflict about the Middle East crisis is never a good idea on the internet. All it does is get everyone involved pissed off, each one convinced only he is correct and that everyone else is wrong.

That's why I'm all for having an intelligent discussion rather than a conflict.

 

[Riobux]

Nope. I don't care much for any country and I find it nothing more than lines in the sand of where one government ends and another one begins.

 

[GrinningManiac]

I'm pretty proud, but not patriotic. I will not defend my country in an argument with another nationality, and I would certainly not think myself better than them (that's not patriotism, I know, but you get what I'm saying)

If we were invaded, though, then I'd certainly help fight, because if someone's invading Britain, something's serious

I'm all for devolution, however. We need a Federal U.K. with subserviant English, Welsh, Irish and Scottish parliments

 

[Veritas0323]

Yes. I'm Israeli, and I believe firmly in my people's right to our thousands of years old homeland. I'm especially proud of having left a much easier life in America to come here because of my ideology, and soon I will be serving in the military to defend my country against those who wish to kill us and take our home.

While I don't doubt your sincerity, I think that conflict is a bit more complicated than that. On both sides.

I would say something, but your reply to his views manage to be quite respectful and to the point.

But then again I will admit that to an extent my pro-American fanaticism is in part in reaction to all of the Anti-Americanism which I get tired of.

Admiting is the first part of the healing process. =)

Might I suggest looking into the reasons for such a cultural backlash as a second step?

Patriotism is silly, if you ask me. It basically amounts to "This country is better than all others because it's the one I was born in.

Yeah, I totally agree. I'm from Brazil, and am pretty happy that I was born in a legimate melting pot of the most bizarrely different cultures of the planet.

Happy, but not proud, because I don't have any merit in it. Not yet anyway.

I believe if you are proud of your nation, then you also have to be ashamed for the bad things it has done in the past. You can't be one without the other, and to do so is incredibly foolish/idiotic/stupid/ignorant but it also seems a strange idea to be ashamed/proud of something just because the person who did it just happened to be born on a piece of dirt which is near you...seems odd

Yeah, and that's where I believe a lot of Brazilians make a grave mistake. They mistake the land for its deeply corrupt politicians. And decide that it's so shameful that it's not worth trying to make it better.

Thank heavens that a lot of people are campaiging for a new bill to pass that forbids indicted politicians to run for office. Fucking finally!!!

I'm more a patriot then the people who think they are patriots.

I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.

Yes. I'm Israeli, and I believe firmly in my people's right to our thousands of years old homeland. I'm especially proud of having left a much easier life in America to come here because of my ideology, and soon I will be serving in the military to defend my country against those who wish to kill us and take our home.

must resist urge to get started about this

I know, right?

I can't stand when people say that being Anti-Israeli is being anti-semitic, despite the fact that semitic refers to all the people from that part of the world and not just jews.

Also, I saw in your post that you're from Brazil, my dad just got back from Sao Palo and said that it wasn't as bad as everybody thinks it is.

And of course the women there

 

[Uncreation]

I don't care for patriotism. I don't like the idea. Even if i would, i don't think i would be a patriot.

 

[Malyc]

I would definitely say that i am a patriot.
America is awesome.

 

[Scorp123]

I just happen to be born on this patch of land thats controlled by some government.From what i understand patriotism is thinking that your patch of land is better than everyone elses.It makes more sence to me to fight for my way of life not for a patch of land.I live in a pretty shitty country btw.