Hard to beleive, I know.Amethyst Wind said:
Really?FutureJarhead16 said:
I would have never guessed!
Are you a patriot?
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I would have never guessed!
Some days I love Britain, it's countryside, it's wit, it's history and it's tolerance. Even it's weather. Other days I feel it's a loathsome place, small minded and cynical.
You're thinking of Palestine. It's more complicated than that.the stonker said:
Patriotism, as I understand it, is just loving a country because you were born there. That makes no sense.
But genuinely liking where you were born, okay, I understand that. I like the UK, only because, sadly, 80 per cent of the world is a dump. Democracy, free healthcare and decent education are good in my books.
But genuinely liking where you were born, okay, I understand that. I like the UK, only because, sadly, 80 per cent of the world is a dump. Democracy, free healthcare and decent education are good in my books.
I am a patriot, just not openly. I'm from Canada and I love the Canadian winter. As well as hockey!!!!!
I'm not patriotic at all.
Personally, I support the theory of retardism. Assume everyone else is a retard until they prove differently.
So far, it's worked out pretty well. Keeps my stress levels way down, since you're already expecting them to act like retards. Saved my life on the roads a few times too!
Personally, I support the theory of retardism. Assume everyone else is a retard until they prove differently.
So far, it's worked out pretty well. Keeps my stress levels way down, since you're already expecting them to act like retards. Saved my life on the roads a few times too!
That's similar to one I favor: "Loyalty to the country always. Loyalty to the government when it deserves it."Agrael said:
...I love Mark Twain.
These are two different questions mate.Davvda said:
Being a patriot means that you're proud to belong to a body of random people, most of whom you really don't have much in common with except for the fact that you live in roughly the same geographical area as they do. And sometimes not even that.Patriotism is basically nothing but a logical fallacy that governments love to exploit.
Loving the environment or certain aspects of the culture in your country has nothing to do with that.
I'm from the United States, so patriot carries a kind of negative message about blind arrogance around here.
That said, I like my country. It's taken pretty good care of me so far, and it's kept me safe from those that would do me harm. That said, I don't like it's pandering to the upper class and seemingly constant attempts to murder the middle class.
That said, I like my country. It's taken pretty good care of me so far, and it's kept me safe from those that would do me harm. That said, I don't like it's pandering to the upper class and seemingly constant attempts to murder the middle class.
If my country was invaded, I would probably defend it. however, I would never go to war against anyone else and I would never argue with someone that my country was better than theirs (not seriously anyways)
Patriotism is silly, if you ask me. It basically amounts to "This country is better than all others because it's the one I was born in."
I like my country, but I certainly wouldn't call myself a patriot.
I like my country, but I certainly wouldn't call myself a patriot.
I believe if you are proud of your nation, then you also have to be ashamed for the bad things it has done in the past. You can't be one without the other, and to do so is incredibly foolish/idiotic/stupid/ignorant
but it also seems a strange idea to be ashamed/proud of something just because the person who did it just happened to be born on a piece of dirt which is near you...seems odd
but it also seems a strange idea to be ashamed/proud of something just because the person who did it just happened to be born on a piece of dirt which is near you...seems odd
I love the America I learned about in school---land of the free, laissez-faire, pull yourself up by your bootstraps minimalist government America.
The Democrats and Republicans are such a perversion of the Founding Fathers' vision for this country that if civil war broke out, I'd throw my lot in with the rebels.
The Democrats and Republicans are such a perversion of the Founding Fathers' vision for this country that if civil war broke out, I'd throw my lot in with the rebels.
Heh heh, we are by the definition that we have a cathedral (as you can plainly see). And yes, we're awesome [sub]even though I'm actually from Brighton...[/sub]Eerors said:Ahh Durham. How are you a city?Daveman said:
[sub]How's THAT for student accommodation![/sub]
County Durham is the best name for a county though. It even sounds medieval.
Being Scottish I'm supposed to be extremely patriotic, and it happens to be quite mandatory. Trying to fight the irrational prejudice against everything else is hard, but it has to be done. At least I'm completely outsider on the whole Rangers (Proddy) / Celtic (Catholic) thing. Don't care for either football team, either religion, the supposed links between them, none of it. Independence for Scotland? It would fuck with the economy no end, no thanks. Robert Burns? I sing Auld Langs Ayne every year, I'm not bothering with Haggis for his name's sake every February for burns day. I could see myself moving on from this country when I'm older, but so far I've never left Scottish soil. If there's good money and living somewhere else, an interesting and exciting opportunity and my leaving won't upset those around me, I'd go for it and fondly remember the old country more than it deserves.
This is spot on. In Sweden, most people believe that being patriotic means believing that all other countries are inferior to their own country. This is not true! However, they are siamese twins sharing the same brain.Queen Michael said:
I'm patriotic in the sense that I am glad to be a part of this country. What I like is the original ideals this nation was founded on (ideas which I think we've lost touch with some time ago).
I love the ideal of America, but I'm not an idealist. I want to leave my country. Go somewhere else. It's really not working here.
Well played, sirTruly-A-Lie said:
and no, I don't consider myself a "patriot" - I love England and given the right situation (like, if the country were under genuine threat) I'd fight for King/Queen and country, but I think over the top "patriotism" is unhealthy. The guy that said assuming your country trumps all others just 'cause it's yours being sucky, was dead on