Are your tastes in music/movies/whatever different from what's 'popular' nowadays?
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I'm no hipster, but fuck everything else. As an individual I can pick and choose what I'd like to listen to whether it be a video game OST, Classical, Aussie Hip-Hop, or anything in between (and outside and inside). That is what is so fantastic about music today, the sheer variety and relative ease of access.
I'd have to say yes and no.Fertro said:
I like what I find to be good no matter whether it is mainstream or not.
On one hand some things are popular for a reason (i.e. Kanye West, Jay-Z, Arcade Fire, The Dark Knight, Star Wars, Red Dead Redemption, Halo, etc, etc, etc), on the other hand, some things are popular because they are victims of commercialism (i.e. Kesha, Bieber, Madonna, Avatar, The Devil Inside, CoDMW3, Mass Effect, etc, etc, etc).
Just like what you like, it doesn't matter whether it is popular nowadays or not.
Gotcha. It didn't make sense that it was aimed at me, but one never knows. I agree with you completely. People should really worry a lot less about what other people think of what they like. Honestly, if you find it appealing, why does it matter what anyone else thinks? As an aside, I hate it when I have to say, "I listen to bands most people haven't heard of.. no, wait, I didn't mean it like that." I just like a lot of local/regional bands. By virtue of the fact that they're local/regional, most people are not going to have heard of them outside of the area. I don't think it makes me better or special.. I just like it, damnit, and I shouldn't have to qualify that because of those hipsters! *shakes cane at them*Vault101 said:
My problem with rap isn't the lyrics, generally. It's the actual music. I'm very sensitive to sounds and repetitive beats make me twitch (literally) and they make me jumpy. I don't like the way rap makes me feel physically, so I can't enjoy it.
I don't really know. I've been called a hipster because my taste of music usually leans towards the alternative/indie side of things, but at the same time I enjoy plenty of mainstream bands like Linkin Park and such. I also enjoy many popular things such as Harry Potter and CoD. So...*shrugs*
Game-wise: I play a lot of the norms. like Skyrim and Battlefield but also those strange JRPGs that you find on the ps2 for $40 bucks.
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Movie-wise: I watch a lot of Pixar, parodies, and comedies. Starying off the beaten path a bit.
Music-wise: I will listen to anything, but J-Pop has sparked my intrest for the past 6 months. It's just so varied.
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Movie-wise: I watch a lot of Pixar, parodies, and comedies. Starying off the beaten path a bit.
Music-wise: I will listen to anything, but J-Pop has sparked my intrest for the past 6 months. It's just so varied.
Well Most kids now a days have no Clue what Evil Dead is and I am a huge ass fan of the trilogy and everything that came with: games, books, dolls, comics.... everything. Also I'm a big big BIG Bruce "don't call me ash" Campbell fan.
I love movies from the 90's and lower like Circuitry Man, Return to Macon County, American Graffiti, Porky's and stuff like that. Don't get me wrong there are good movies now a days but a lot of the time they are so focused on graphics that the story falls flat.
I also Listen to Oldies and Hard rock most of the time and most people that are my age are either emo music lovers or hip hop whatever lol
I also love 8 and 16 bit games. More so then most games that just came out last year. I still Play Suikoden and FF VI.
I love movies from the 90's and lower like Circuitry Man, Return to Macon County, American Graffiti, Porky's and stuff like that. Don't get me wrong there are good movies now a days but a lot of the time they are so focused on graphics that the story falls flat.
I also Listen to Oldies and Hard rock most of the time and most people that are my age are either emo music lovers or hip hop whatever lol
I also love 8 and 16 bit games. More so then most games that just came out last year. I still Play Suikoden and FF VI.
I wouldn't say that the majority of people think like this these days. But you do have a point. When I am at a party I often hear people say: "Wow this song is like 2-6 years old." And hey they can say that and its probably true. But this is at a party where there are people nagging for the DJ to play "spice girls" so the tennage girls can sing along despite being 18).Fertro said:
So yeah it is really ANOYING having to talk with people like that.
So yeah my music tastes are rather diverse yet very rarely (if ever) touch the mainstream. I move along with time yet when I do I simply add a new genre to my computer (whilst avoiding the radio like the plague). To say all modern music sux is rathar close minded as well really. Because not all of it does. Just the stuff that is popular. This has always been the case. The thing is with old music however is that the stuff that sucks and is popular gets forgotten as the times change. Yet the music that is good is remembered in a similar way to a "Cult classic."
So yeah Pop's Shit. Has always been. Yet it will be forgotten and the gold (such as Opeth and Katatonia) will be remembered.
I fully agree. As I said earlier in the thread, "anything new is crap" is just as closed minded as "anything old is crap". It shows a complete lack of emphasis on the music/movie/art itself.Vault101 said:
Being quite a fan of music, someone who writes music, experiences the most powerful emotions in his life from music, and would love nothing more than to make a living making music, I've learned one thing over the years: Most people don't really give a shit about music. They just care about the image associated with it, be it to be hip and on top of what's current, or to be a pseudo-snob. It's something they listen to when they're bored. Background noise to make a menial task more interesting. A distant soundtrack to sticky club dancing or a sweaty, drunken mosh pit. Or, indeed, in the case of this thread: an indicator of (desired) social grouping.
Music: Metal (anything from Delain to Meshuggah. My range is huge), video game music, I really don't have anything from the radio, except the classics (PF, Queen etc). I don't proactively search for other genres, but I don't mind them.
Movies: Not a movie buff.
Games: SimCity4, Warcraft3 speak volumes. Also some popular ones (Portal, amongst others)
Movies: Not a movie buff.
Games: SimCity4, Warcraft3 speak volumes. Also some popular ones (Portal, amongst others)
Video Games - Being almost-20, most of what I'm playing falls within the 5-years-old range. That said, my all-time favourite computer game is KotOR, handheld is Golden Sun, and console would be... well, probably Mass Effect, to be honest, I love BioWare's stuff - although Ocarina of Time is WAY up there. But it doesn't get much older that that because of, well, my age.
Movies & TV - I watch what I think will be good - haven't seen much anime, though I undoubtedly will as my friends slowly force me to watch it, and I'm sure I'll enjoy it. I've been going through old BBC stuff more and more recently (as well as new) - I Claudius, Blackadder, Shakespeare, Poirot, etc. As far as movies go - good stuff comes from all time periods, although some older 'classics' just don't have a great deal of emotional range for me - but then some newer films also suck.
Music - Here's where I'm just messed the hell up as far as everyone else is concerned. As far as music goes, I'm not a huge fan of these things, which has more or less set me against most pop music of... the last 50 years or so, actually:
1) Lyrics - I usually find things with lyrics seem to use them as an excuse for not having any interesting musical structure at all. If the voice is used as an effective musical instrument, I have less of a problem with it. Also, if it's from early 20th century North America, I also like it.
2) Electric Guitar - They're too often screechy, dissonant, or accompanied by lyrics - and like lyrics, they often lack interesting musical structure.
3) Loud. Why make something loud? It means that it's gone past the point where I can hear it just fine and it's now actually physically painful.
There are exceptions, of course, and I'm a sucker for something with a driving beat or bass line, and if the lyrics don't take away from the voice being used, and used well, as a musical instrument, I lose a lot of my problems with it.
What do I like in music?
1) Baroque Music. Due to my particular specialization of instrument, I've been exposed to lots of this for the past ten years, and it's rubbed off on me. If I whistle improvised tunes, it settles into this style.
2) SOUNDTRACKS. Movies and Video Games have AWESOME SOUNDTRACKS, and for the most part, always have. Jeremy Soule's 4-CD Orchestral Skyrim Soundtrack? AWESOME. Hans Zimmer/Klaus Badelt's work on the Pirates of the Carribbean Series as a whole? ALSO AWESOME. Going further and further back, film soundtracks have always been awesome - Ennio Morricone wins, not just for his work on the Spaghetti Westerns, but for his other stuff too, with the opening music for The Mission being some of the best damn soundtrack music ever. And of course, John Williams has just been churning out Iconic stuff for decades now. Skyward Sword coming with that Orchestral CD made my holiday season, at least until I saw the Hobbit trailer - during which about 30% of my mind was thinking MORE HOWARD SHORE!!!
Soundtracks, for me, are pretty damn close to the perfect incarnation of music. They're good, instrumental, musically interesting pieces that are Specifically Designed to Provoke an Emotional Connection or Response. In other words, they're good, and they're POWERFUL.
3) Classical Music.
4) Music from various cultures. It brings new sounds, new styles, and new feels. As a half-Scots-Irish Canadian, I have a particular penchant for that flavour.
5) Stuff from, or stylistically continuing from, early 20th century North America, meaning blues, jazz, and the sort of songs that make their way into Bioshock or Fallout.
6) Newer Electronic Stuff. I haven't heard much of it, I don't know the sub-genres, but dammit, lyrics not getting in the way of the music, a driving beat, and good melodies meet and exceed the basic requirements for being decent music in a way that other modern stuff really doesn't get all that close too. But again, keep the volume down.
So yeah, I don't really like Modern Music, or even the music that defined most living generations (save, as mentioned, more recent electronic stuff) - hell, I probably couldn't name or identify anywhere near half the genres int the past 60 years, because I never liked them enough to find out. Rock of some form or another is so all-pervasive that I know it, and it does have some examples of good music. But many, many more that really aren't. I listen to what is now considered 'popular' music, and unless it's a particularly outstanding example, I can't help but be confounded as to anyone could prefer that to music that is Actually Musical, and Actually Moving, instead of just loud, popular, and familiar.
That all put together makes me a pretty rare specimen among pretty much everyone I know, and makes the notion of partying just off-putting enough for me to mostly not bother.
Movies & TV - I watch what I think will be good - haven't seen much anime, though I undoubtedly will as my friends slowly force me to watch it, and I'm sure I'll enjoy it. I've been going through old BBC stuff more and more recently (as well as new) - I Claudius, Blackadder, Shakespeare, Poirot, etc. As far as movies go - good stuff comes from all time periods, although some older 'classics' just don't have a great deal of emotional range for me - but then some newer films also suck.
Music - Here's where I'm just messed the hell up as far as everyone else is concerned. As far as music goes, I'm not a huge fan of these things, which has more or less set me against most pop music of... the last 50 years or so, actually:
1) Lyrics - I usually find things with lyrics seem to use them as an excuse for not having any interesting musical structure at all. If the voice is used as an effective musical instrument, I have less of a problem with it. Also, if it's from early 20th century North America, I also like it.
2) Electric Guitar - They're too often screechy, dissonant, or accompanied by lyrics - and like lyrics, they often lack interesting musical structure.
3) Loud. Why make something loud? It means that it's gone past the point where I can hear it just fine and it's now actually physically painful.
There are exceptions, of course, and I'm a sucker for something with a driving beat or bass line, and if the lyrics don't take away from the voice being used, and used well, as a musical instrument, I lose a lot of my problems with it.
What do I like in music?
1) Baroque Music. Due to my particular specialization of instrument, I've been exposed to lots of this for the past ten years, and it's rubbed off on me. If I whistle improvised tunes, it settles into this style.
2) SOUNDTRACKS. Movies and Video Games have AWESOME SOUNDTRACKS, and for the most part, always have. Jeremy Soule's 4-CD Orchestral Skyrim Soundtrack? AWESOME. Hans Zimmer/Klaus Badelt's work on the Pirates of the Carribbean Series as a whole? ALSO AWESOME. Going further and further back, film soundtracks have always been awesome - Ennio Morricone wins, not just for his work on the Spaghetti Westerns, but for his other stuff too, with the opening music for The Mission being some of the best damn soundtrack music ever. And of course, John Williams has just been churning out Iconic stuff for decades now. Skyward Sword coming with that Orchestral CD made my holiday season, at least until I saw the Hobbit trailer - during which about 30% of my mind was thinking MORE HOWARD SHORE!!!
Soundtracks, for me, are pretty damn close to the perfect incarnation of music. They're good, instrumental, musically interesting pieces that are Specifically Designed to Provoke an Emotional Connection or Response. In other words, they're good, and they're POWERFUL.
3) Classical Music.
4) Music from various cultures. It brings new sounds, new styles, and new feels. As a half-Scots-Irish Canadian, I have a particular penchant for that flavour.
5) Stuff from, or stylistically continuing from, early 20th century North America, meaning blues, jazz, and the sort of songs that make their way into Bioshock or Fallout.
6) Newer Electronic Stuff. I haven't heard much of it, I don't know the sub-genres, but dammit, lyrics not getting in the way of the music, a driving beat, and good melodies meet and exceed the basic requirements for being decent music in a way that other modern stuff really doesn't get all that close too. But again, keep the volume down.
So yeah, I don't really like Modern Music, or even the music that defined most living generations (save, as mentioned, more recent electronic stuff) - hell, I probably couldn't name or identify anywhere near half the genres int the past 60 years, because I never liked them enough to find out. Rock of some form or another is so all-pervasive that I know it, and it does have some examples of good music. But many, many more that really aren't. I listen to what is now considered 'popular' music, and unless it's a particularly outstanding example, I can't help but be confounded as to anyone could prefer that to music that is Actually Musical, and Actually Moving, instead of just loud, popular, and familiar.
That all put together makes me a pretty rare specimen among pretty much everyone I know, and makes the notion of partying just off-putting enough for me to mostly not bother.
I don't know, I've never really payed attention to what was "popular" and I thought that that word would have lost all meaning with the invention of the internet and digital media.
Since I tend to demand intelligence, cohesion, and/or an actual original thought from my entertainment, I guess that means my favorites wouldn't be popular since most people I know are against intellectualism.
For example, I'm pretty decent friends with my neighbor, but I will be the first to admit that he's kind of a douchebag. He's nice to those he gets to know, but he's a douche who hates intelligent thoughts/conversation and all those other "unmanly" things...though he'd never admit that and, bless his heart, actually tries to go along with me when I try to analyze or make a point about fiction and sometimes actually makes interesting points that I never would have considered. All in all, a decent guy who at least tries to overcome his reflexively assholeish behavior.
Anyway, my neighbor frequently hosts movie nights, and I find it fun to hang out with him and watch these. One of the recent ones I remember watching was Battle: LA. I had never seen it before then, and he told me all about how I would love it because it was about an epic science fiction war between humans and aliens like Independence Day. All through watching it, I kept thinking how it couldn't decide if it wanted to be Alien or Independence Day, how I hated all the cookie-cutter military guys whose names I couldn't be bothered to remember, and trying to come up with some positive remark so that I didn't seem like a complete douchebag when he asks me what I thought of it. I was much happier when we watched Captain America a couple weeks later, no doubt about that.
Since I tend to demand intelligence, cohesion, and/or an actual original thought from my entertainment, I guess that means my favorites wouldn't be popular since most people I know are against intellectualism.
For example, I'm pretty decent friends with my neighbor, but I will be the first to admit that he's kind of a douchebag. He's nice to those he gets to know, but he's a douche who hates intelligent thoughts/conversation and all those other "unmanly" things...though he'd never admit that and, bless his heart, actually tries to go along with me when I try to analyze or make a point about fiction and sometimes actually makes interesting points that I never would have considered. All in all, a decent guy who at least tries to overcome his reflexively assholeish behavior.
Anyway, my neighbor frequently hosts movie nights, and I find it fun to hang out with him and watch these. One of the recent ones I remember watching was Battle: LA. I had never seen it before then, and he told me all about how I would love it because it was about an epic science fiction war between humans and aliens like Independence Day. All through watching it, I kept thinking how it couldn't decide if it wanted to be Alien or Independence Day, how I hated all the cookie-cutter military guys whose names I couldn't be bothered to remember, and trying to come up with some positive remark so that I didn't seem like a complete douchebag when he asks me what I thought of it. I was much happier when we watched Captain America a couple weeks later, no doubt about that.
Oh yeah, sorry for the double post, but I forgot about this. I have to admit that I actually wanted to cry when I worked at a sleep-away camp last summer and none of the kids had ever heard of Freakazoid, Tiny Toon Adventures, or the Animaniacs. In fact, most of them had never heard the original Pokemon theme. I died a little inside.
about moviesDerangedMonkey42 said:
the ones you described as far as Im aware arnt blockbuster/dumb action movies
the current movies you described sound like they are (AVATAR, Transformers)
can they be more lazy and just throw shitty CGI at us? yes and they do....but
its not like you dont get the best of both worlds (Inglorious basterds, District 9, Inception,Batan beigns/dark knight)
and its not like we dont have good movies (moon, Black swan, True grit, anything from Pixar, splice, wrestler....) bit of a random list there
Im only aware of animainiacs..and only because its buried deep withint he recesses of my memory..were it not for the internet I probably wouldnt remember that strange show I watched when I was like...5StorytellingIsAMust said:
also how could they? unless thease kids are looking up thease things on the interest theres no way they could know
its like me asking do you know about Blinky Bill? no...of coarse you dont
I understand that completely. It's more that it makes me feel old, that's all. And no, I didn't know about Blinky Bill. But I will do some research to find out what that is. Thanks for giving me something to do!Vault101 said:
most of the "well known and beloved" stuff like , AC DC, Metallica, the beatles bores me to tears (excpet queen, I love queen)Smiley Face said:
generic rock just sounds..so generic to me
theres nothing more frustrating than having music that sounds really good (to me at least) but then the lyrics get in the way
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TDqUJdXzlQ
I dont mind the fact that there's lyrics..its more the subject matter that bothers me, in the end its about this sleazy guy who likes the clubbing scene and being unfaithful (you know..like 99% of thos party anthems playing right now)
BUT...then upon further analisis the tone doesnt come across as particually boastful..or even happy...perhaps its somwhat regretful like
"I know this is wrong..but I keep doing it, I dont know why I do thease things,I fear this may come around and bite me in the future"
probably not but its fun to over-analyse things