Argued with a Sexist Today...

[MasterOfWorlds]

I once had a girl in my highschool a few years back as me my opinion of a girl in her class. I didn't know the girl she was asking about personally, but I explained what I had heard. Now, I'll need to explain some things before I continue this story. I'm not racist or sexist. I'm a white guy, but some of my closest friends over the years have either been from other countries or women, or both.

Anyway, I explained that she had something of a bad reputation in the school because she ( a white girl) seemed to only date black guys. I also explained that I didn't know if it was true, but that's what other people thought of her.

The next day, I went into a computer lab to work on a report, and she was in there with some of her friends and they started calling me racist because of my remark. I turned to them as said, "I could care less who you date, it's up to you. If you're not smart enough to figure out that I simply told the other girl what I had heard, then you don't need to be speaking to me." After that, they pretty much shut up.

Also, as for the sexist thing. I think women should be treated well, sure, but not because they're women. I treat everyone fairly well unless they're just being jerks. I am tired, however, of women wanted to be treated equally by society and then turning around and wanting special treatment. I'm not saying it's all of them. Or even half of them. But there are those that do that, and it annoys me. I'm all for treating women equally. That means in all aspects. Which leads me to another problem I have with the whole, "Women deserve special treatment" thing. I know I'm going to catch crap for this so let me explain it further.

I've either been hit by (several times mind you) or seen women hit other guys and get off simply for being women. Legally speaking, I'm within my rights to defend myself, but if I ever did and it went to court, the jury would see me as a woman beater and it would be over. I'm not saying men should beat up on women. I'm just saying that women shouldn't get away with stuff like that. I saw a girl land a brutal kick to a poor guy's groin for no other reason than he was trying to help her out when she was upset. He passed out from the pain, and she didn't get in trouble at all. Where's the justice in that?

 

[Amethyst Wind]

Normally, it's chicks and blacks who act that way, is he a ginger?

Charming young lady. What I meant is that women look for reasons for calling sexist whenever they get the chance like black people make up reasons for crying about racism anytime someone says something bad about a black person. I felt it was a similar situation.

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Drunk Ninja, you might as well just post the picture again, he didn't get it the first time.

 

[Imperioratorex Caprae]

If he was honest he would have said "What you said sir has offended me" but instead, like most drama queens, he made it about someone else so he could make a scene about it.
Useless. If I was a believer in eugenics, I would have marked that man for death myself. Thankfully I'm enlightened enough to understand that even idiots can breed geniuses. Unfortunately this guy is an idiot and an asshole, and definitely not a genius. If he were, he might think twice before butting into another person's conversation especially when he doesn't know the people involved. You sir are commended for not getting up and knocking this dude's teeth out for getting involved in shit that he has no business with in the first place.
I'm usually a non-violent person, but for some reason people who I don't know butting into my conversations irritates me enough to want to knock them the hell out. Thus my rule of thumb: don't bother people you don't know because you have no idea how psycho they might be.

 

[TheDrunkNinja]

Drunk Ninja, you might as well just post the picture again, he didn't get it the first time.

If she could be older this time...

How 'bout this one?

A little closer to the source material?

 

[Nouw]

You are correct. He is incorrect. Morale Restored.

I see why he would say that though.

 

[drummond13]

You yelled the word "pussy" really loudly and this guy noticed it seemed to bother someone. He then told you to stop. You responded by calling him a sexist because the person he noticed bothered by your behavior happened to be a woman and he pointed this out.

I mean, I wasn't there. Maybe the way he said his piece was rude. But just from your description of the story it honestly sounds like you were kind of an ass.

 

[TheDrunkNinja]

You yelled the word "pussy" really loudly and this guy noticed it seemed to bother someone. He then told you to stop. You responded by calling him a sexist because the person he noticed bothered by your behavior happened to be a woman and he pointed this out.

I mean, I wasn't there. Maybe the way he said his piece was rude. But just from your description of the story it honestly sounds like you were kind of an ass.

Well, I can see how you would come to that conclusion if you were actually the guy, but since you weren't there I can understand how you misinterpreted my words.

Let me just reassure you by saying that all of my friends who were there and witnessed what happened thought that this random guy yelling at us was the biggest sexist douchebag they had ever seen in their lives. My friend who's a girl was really enraged by what she saw, and she almost never gets angry or confrontational.

 

[drummond13]

(shrugs) Not being there makes it hard to really judge. If you and your posse say this guy was a jerk, so be it.

 

[coldshadow]

a co-worker of mine is quiting soon because she is sick of how our manager makes dirty jokes about her and the other girls there. I dont blame her, hes over 50 at least and has his mind in the gutter all the time.

Man, he really has no excuse. She really should report him, having to leave her job just because he can't be considerate is just wrong.

It's funny, because our two situations are like night and day different, yet they're still a form of sexism in a way.

Ive told her to report him, she says she does want to bother with the bullshit. no matter what I say she dosn't seem to care. most of the other girls just say its how he is, so I dont know.

 

[Dark Knifer]

Snip.

I cna see your point, allthough it's generally a bad idea to emphasis that there is a massive difference. Best just to say that their is a difference and try to leave it at that. Worked for me in a similar situation. Also, good choice of avatar.

 

[Booze Zombie]

Girls are helpless creatures that need a man to protect them. Didn't you hear in the 1800's they were worried trains would scare them to death? Simple minded creatures, that need a MAN to protect them. I've never ONCE seen a woman do anything special like you know go to space or speak up. They can't speak up if they're offended or do protests.

^Is being sarcastic, and not serious, and protecting self from misunderstandings.

Seriously, people are morons, if this guy did what he did to my sister? She'd wreck him in more ways than one. She scored second highest in NYU and got the presidents award, and rules her house with an iron fist. She doesn't need protecting. I've seen men that need protecting, like the fellow mentioned here, he'll get stepped on if he's not careful.

Damn it, you got in all the snark and the points I wanted to get in as well.

And I here I was thinking my mind was original...

Oh well!

 

[TheDrunkNinja]

Really? He doesn't sound like that bad a guy, and by no means is sexist.

Gotta hate when people pull this shit. What he said was slightly sexist, perhaps more against males than females, that doesn't make him a sexist. Its a blurry transition where really, the only way to be a sexist, is to identify yourself as one. Otherwise you're just throwing a word around to gain support for your thoughts.

Besides, quit calling your friend a pussy, you badass.

While my accusation was a part of the spat, the significance is that his outburst was in the wrong. I picked the word sexist when he picked the word women, as if she (or any other girl in the room) couldn't defender herself from my apparent offending (despite the fact she made it clear she didn't care). A lot of people have said they don't think he was technically sexist. Others agree it was an act of sexism. My friends witnessed this first-hand and they personally told me I was right to make that association (one was extremely upset after what she heard). Whatever you want to call it, it was still uncalled for.

Also, I didn't call my friend a pussy. Our conversation was on a fictional character.

 

[TheDrunkNinja]

You yelled the word "pussy" really loudly and this guy noticed it seemed to bother someone. He then told you to stop. You responded by calling him a sexist because the person he noticed bothered by your behavior happened to be a woman and he pointed this out.

I mean, I wasn't there. Maybe the way he said his piece was rude. But just from your description of the story it honestly sounds like you were kind of an ass.

Well, I can see how you would come to that conclusion if you were actually the guy, but since you weren't there I can understand how you misinterpreted my words.

Let me just reassure you by saying that all of my friends who were there and witnessed what happened thought that this random guy yelling at us was the biggest sexist douchebag they had ever seen in their lives. My friend who's a girl was really enraged by what she saw, and she almost never gets angry or confrontational.

You're friends a girl? She must be an expert on sexism, never mind then. Disregard what I said. I'll assume he 'won' the argument if you all got this angry and he didn't change his stance.

I'm of course assuming that the argument quickly turned from your foul language to him defending himself/his character. You sure showed him.

Nah, not really. It just amazed me that she got so angry over it since she's so passive about everything. Seriously, she's usually really sweet about everything, but I was almost afraid of the rage she showed.

Nobody really "won" anything, though. It's an argument, everyone walks away with a bad taste. Also, I didn't really go into how he was a sexist or tell him what I thought about him or his character. After I called him sexist, we just traded words, then I ignored him after that. When we left, everyone was just so pissed off. Really, it just annoyed my friends that he started yelling at us then proceeded to use someone else to make a point of an argument he shouldn't have started in the first place.

 

[Spinozaad]

Meh.

I wouldn't say that's sexist. A true sexist would have defended her honour, before commanding the girl in particular to get him a sandwich.

 

[Jimson]

You sound like you were being an immature idiot, and someone called you out for it.
Just because the girl was trying to be nice, and say, Oh no don't worry about me ok I'm ok. You instead jumped out and decided he was being sexist. Sounds to me like you used an offensive word (pussy is in fact offensive no matter the intent, because if I call you a little shit head because you have a little shit on your head, I am still calling you a shit head)Someone called you out, and instead of being the bigger man and saying, Nah he's right, even if it wasn't meant to be offensive, I am sorry about it. Who knows maybe you would have gotten some of the afformentioned word if you showed that girl you were a gentleman.

 

[SnootyEnglishman]

I agree with the way you handled it..he was obviously looking for the attention and the argument. Was he a jock type person by any chance?

 

[Gigaguy64]

Ehh, i can understand him as well.
But he was a jerk for reacting the way he did.

It just comes from the mindset that women cant speak up for themselves, and its also some people have been raised to be extra respectful around women.
Doesn't mean they are sexist, its just the way they were raised and sometimes its hard to break habits you formed as a kid.

As for me, iv never really come across someone like that.

Treating women differently from men because they are women is sexist. I don't care about the context, or how you were raised. These are just excuses. EDIT: So the next time you see a woman punch a man, and he doesn't punch back, call him a "sexist" or a "pussy" (because he certainly is one of these things).

What if he doesn't wanna hit back at all, no matter what the Gender?
You don't have the fully story at a glance so the best thing to do is not say anything at all nor make judgments.

That being said, it is nearly impossible to NOT be sexist. Most people treat the genders differently for one reason or another. Personally, I tend to show preferential treatment towards females because I find them more attractive and pleasant to be around than men.

I can see where your coming from though.
But really there are somethings that are sexist, that are simply the truth.