Ask a 3rd Generation Mexican American

[BallPtPenTheif]

Hi,

I'm a bit bored and I didn't find any similar mexican-centric threads so I thought I'd make one. A lot of people here are from Countries other than America and US States other than border states so maybe the notion of a mexican american is irrelevant, a curiosity, or mythilogical...

in either case fire away be it political, social, religious, or whatever. I'll take the discourse anywhere you want it to go.

 

[Rajin Cajun]

What is your view on illegal immigration?

 

[sequio]

Is it a good thing or bad thing when someone calls me choro and gordo? Because they always seem really enthusiastic about it but have no idea if they mean it in a mocking way or are genuinely being chummy.

 

[Cousin_IT]

What is your view on illegal immigration?

Which side of the fence are you on, on this issue? *giggles inanely*

 

[countrysteaksauce]

Why do some spanish speakers pronounce double L as ya and others as dzha?

 

[Mrsoupcup]

What is your view on illegal immigration?

Which side of the fence are you on, on this issue? *giggles inanely*

People are forced to hope the border because the living conditions in Mexico especially for the poor are terrible so don't make jokes about it you yankee prick.

 

[BallPtPenTheif]

What is your view on illegal immigration?

I see it more as a cause and effect. Basically the entire agricultural industry is based upon black market labor.. so if you shut down the boarder, lettuce will be more expensive. For that reason that is why the status quo is retained.

I guess my biggest issue is that the debate is loaded with such irrelevant rhetoric of "you're a racist" or "you want to take over the country" that the real causality of the situation is never discussed.

So my view isn't really a view at all... it's just wondering when people as a whole will actually talk about the reality of the situation and where it should go.

 

[BallPtPenTheif]

Is it a good thing or bad thing when someone calls me choro and gordo? Because they always seem really enthusiastic about it but have no idea if they mean it in a mocking way or are genuinely being chummy.

Amongst friends, words like gordo or chongo are jabby terms of endearment. Amongst strangers, thems fightin words.

 

[BallPtPenTheif]

Why do some spanish speakers pronounce double L as ya and others as dzha?

Hm.. don't really know. I pronounce it as a Y, but more than likely it is either a mestizo inflection or maybe even something to do with central america. There are an insane number of dialect differences which can cause enough variance that some people aren't even understandable by spanish speakers.

 

[Rajin Cajun]

What is your view on illegal immigration?

I see it more as a cause and effect. Basically the entire agricultural industry is based upon black market labor.. so if you shut down the boarder, lettuce will be more expensive. For that reason that is why the status quo is retained.

I guess my biggest issue is that the debate is loaded with such irrelevant rhetoric of "you're a racist" or "you want to take over the country" that the real causality of the situation is never discussed.

So my view isn't really a view at all... it's just wondering when people as a whole will actually talk about the reality of the situation and where it should go.

Agreed, anyways I was just curious. I am against Illegal Immigration not only because it is such a dangerous journey but because it just leads to the exploitation of a group of people for a bunch of Moneybags who have enough connections in Washington from keeping the Border shut down. I don't blame the Mexican people with the amount of crime and corruption in Mexico I can't blame them from running but I don't ever support the idea of entering any country illegally. I feel mixed on the issue because even though I don't politically agree with the EZLN in the Chiapas I do understand their reason for wanting to be seperated from the corrupt regime in Mexico City.

 

[BallPtPenTheif]

Agreed, anyways I was just curious. I am against Illegal Immigration not only because it is such a dangerous journey but because it just leads to the exploitation of a group of people for a bunch of Moneybags who have enough connections in Washington from keeping the Border shut down. I don't blame the Mexican people with the amount of crime and corruption in Mexico I can't blame them from running but I don't ever support the idea of entering any country illegally. I feel mixed on the issue because even though I don't politically agree with the EZLN in the Chiapas I do understand their reason for wanting to be seperated from the corrupt regime in Mexico City.

I also believe that we should be holding the Mexican Government more accountable for their boarder. In a way, their migrant population is like a excess valve that keeps the disanfranchised from being trapped in Mexico and pushing for revolution or political change there and that's they way their government likes it.

The old cliche, "If you don't like it then leave." is great from the perspective of those in power.

 

[ace_of_something]

3rd generation? Why is it you can comment on a country your grandparents left, as if you were just there, but if I do the same (also 3rd generation) I get the 'weirdo' treatment? Is cuz there's an ocean between here and Europe?

 

[BallPtPenTheif]

3rd generation? Why is it you can comment on a country your grandparents left, as if you were just there, but if I do the same (also 3rd generation) I get the 'weirdo' treatment?

What comment did I make about Mexico?

 

[The Potato Lord]

3rd generation? Why is it you can comment on a country your grandparents left, as if you were just there, but if I do the same (also 3rd generation) I get the 'weirdo' treatment?

What comment did I make about Mexico?

Not so much a comment as much as a thread.

 

[BallPtPenTheif]

3rd generation? Why is it you can comment on a country your grandparents left, as if you were just there, but if I do the same (also 3rd generation) I get the 'weirdo' treatment?

What comment did I make about Mexico?

Not so much a comment as much as a thread.

And which thread did I make about Mexico?

 

[Figgis Fiddis]

What is your view on illegal immigration?

Which side of the fence are you on, on this issue? *giggles inanely*

People are forced to hope the border because the living conditions in Mexico especially for the poor are terrible so don't make jokes about it you yankee prick.

Hypocrisy for the lose.

 

[The Potato Lord]

3rd generation? Why is it you can comment on a country your grandparents left, as if you were just there, but if I do the same (also 3rd generation) I get the 'weirdo' treatment?

What comment did I make about Mexico?

Not so much a comment as much as a thread.

And which thread did I make about Mexico?

This one, now please stop dancing around the subject; You'll scuff the floor.

Anyhoo, he just wants to know why being the grandchild of a Mexican qualifies you to have an "Ask a (insert noun here)" thread. I could see if you had emmigrated from Mexico yourself that would give you a different perspective on things.

 

[Scolar Visari]

As a third gen Mexican American how much of the "old ways" does your family stick to. Also if it's not to personal I would like to hear how your family came to the U.S.

 

[BallPtPenTheif]

This one, now please stop dancing around the subject; You'll scuff the floor.

Anyhoo, he just wants to know why being the grandchild of a Mexican qualifies you to have an "Ask a (insert noun here)" thread. I could see if you had emmigrated from Mexico yourself that would give you a different perspective on things.

I'm being as literal as the thread is. I only suppose to represent my position, which is that of a 3RD GENERATION MEXICAN AMERICAN.

What are you confused about here?

 

[BallPtPenTheif]

As a third gen Mexican American how much of the "old ways" does your family stick to. Also if it's not to personal I would like to hear how your family came to the U.S.

My grandparents were of the "La Bamba" generation.. late 50's. So in their time period they tried to assimilate to the american way of life. The proliferation of MECHA, and people proudly identifying as Chicano really didn't come into vogue until the late 70's early 80's. So, my grandma has chili pickled carrots in the fridge, tamales on christmas, and mole sauce on hand but it's turkey for thanksgiving and no Day of the Dead celebration.

(Mother's Side) As far as the family can figure, my Grandmother's side is from Texas before it was America so we have family members scattered through Texas and the opposing boarder region there. So in that regard, she never really came to the US as hir birth certificate shows Texas as her birth region yet she really grew up in Mexico.

My Grandfather is a different issue... apparently he stole a birth certificate from a dead man in order to gain citizenship yet some of his brothers and cousins were already citizens. The family still doesn't know if he stole this identity due to legal reasons or citizenship but it is understood that he was initially a mexican citizen.

(Father's Side) This one is really vague since I wasn't as close with that side of my family but my Grandmother apparently grew up or around the Santa Paula area and at some point supposedly knew a Japanese guy who fathered my dad... but that guy left and now I have straight hair. So I might be japanese but my grandmother never talked about that stuff.