ask a cop/jailer

[jdnoth]

What gives you the right to dictate what substances free individuals take into their own bodies, you Fascist, power-tripping, pig.

 

[ace_of_something]

I would have to ask how do you like being a Jailer overall in terms of your chain and your bosses treatment overall, I just got into being a Residential Supervisor myself at a community corrections center so wondering how your senior staff treat you and if there is any difference.

Our current director is an asshat who likes to make decisions regarding staffing, benefits and the like without consulting the union. He also overrides disciplinary hearings where the officer is found not guilty without giving a reason; like i got written up because i missed 3 days of work as i was in the hospital. I was found not guilty of misconduct but he overrode it and said I'm still going to have a 'absence problem' thing in my file.

Other than him most people are very nice and all want to work as a team.

 

[I III II X4]

What gives you the right to dictate what substances free individuals take into their own bodies, you Fascist, power-tripping, pig.

Hush, you communist.

 

[Chiasm]

Our current director is an asshat who likes to make decisions regarding staffing, benefits and the like without consulting the union. He also overrides disciplinary hearings where the officer is found not guilty without giving a reason; like i got written up because i missed 3 days of work as i was in the hospital. I was found not guilty of misconduct but he overrode it and said I'm still going to have a 'absence problem' thing in my file.

Other than him most people are very nice and all want to work as a team.

That's good then, Right now I work at a first time offender,drug related, woman's unit. So worst we have is sexual assault cases so seems a lot different then your war stories of a county jail. But even then I'll be a LPN next month so right now I am a C/O in title only at our center it seems.

Seems like for us the biggest one is officers stepping on each others toes. In how one person run's the pod's their way,You'll have another officer who does it differently then complain about how it is being ran, or just give the residents new orders on what to do when the assigned officer on pod's does their rounds.

Just always wondered how the difference breaks for Jailers, and C/O's as I only know of being a C/O right now. Though seems on the bright side all C/O's Jailers,and RS's are all treated horribly by the public. Yay for medical.

P.S How much paper work do you fill out on average?, It seems I go through a black ink pen at least once a week now.

What gives you the right to dictate what substances free individuals take into their own bodies, you Fascist, power-tripping, pig.

Because people with drug problems who can't care for their family,social life or themselves, and end up committing fraud/theft for money. Need to be in a rehabilitation treatment facility to get help for their problem?

 

[ace_of_something]

Ok, here is a question, how likely would you be to 'turn a blind eye' to a minor infraction by someone who was helping you. For instance, you've gone to interview some guy who has information on a series of burglaries, and has volunteered to assist the investigation, feeling he has good evidence, and when you get there, you notice he's left out an ashtray with the remains of a spliff. (consider for this example that's a minor offence)

Would you let it pass as he's being a 'good citizen' for volunteering to assist the police, or would it be your duty to nail him too? OR perhaps would you offer a quiet warning instead?

Trace evidence of a joint? I've pulled people over and given them a wreckless driving ticket and a citation for the most minimal drug charge possible about a dozen times. There is a misconception that being found with drugs is instant jail. I worked vice for the latter half of my tenure, so I had to make deals like this all the time. I know the guy is a big time user but I don't want users. I want the sellers. Sometimes you have to bargin like that, it sucks but you need to get the big fish.

In your hypothetical I'd say give him a stern "don't be a dumbass" warning/speech and use the info to get burglars who are hurting people. As opposed to a person hurting himself.

Also I try not to make judgments on appearance because in my core I know it's wrong. Also, I remember being treated the same way you described when I was younger cuz I had long hair and the popular "I Wish I was Kurt Cobain" look of the time. It would always shock younger kids I pulled over when I'd say "Are you listening to the Vandals? If you like them you should check out..." and that sort of thing. I always found it works much better to polite, professional, and give people the benefit of the doubt; especially if you want to pump them for info.

That theory is still true in the Correction Officer capacity.

 

[ace_of_something]

I feel like the guy on Boondocks, who stays on the straight and narrow simply for an irrational fear of prison rape.

So, if i go to prison, i don't have to shank the biggest guy I can find on the first day to avoid it?

Serious question: how often do you observe nonviolent offenders becoming violent while in prison. I am pro-legalization of drugs, as I feel prohibition should have taught us something, and am not comfortable with nonviolent drug offenders ending up in federal pound me in the ass prison. (yes, i know many drug offenders are violent criminals, and they can be in prison for a long time)

There are about a 100 diversion programs and even special courts for drug offenders; minor drug offenders likely never go to prison (jail is where you sit while you await trial; prison is where you go after). If your caught with 50 kilos of pot though well... get a good lawyer.

Knowing that prison rape is not as prevalent as it once was and is being reported much more; I would say I have no problem with dealers going to prison. I am biased though; I've seen what dealers do to a neighborhood even if they aren't violent. They are the seed of violence. It spreads like kudzu vine. Once the drugs take hold of a neighborhood the violence follows, and it feels like no matter how much you hack at the vines it just keeps coming back.

What gives you the right to dictate what substances free individuals take into their own bodies, you Fascist, power-tripping, pig.

I assume you're making an attempt at humor.
Well, nothing gives me that right and I don't have it anyway. Police officers DON'T make the laws that would be the courts. I also would've had no right to pick and choose which laws I want to enforce.

 

[thiosk]

I am biased though; I've seen what dealers do to a neighborhood even if they aren't violent. They are the seed of violence. It spreads like kudzu vine. Once the drugs take hold of a neighborhood the violence follows, and it feels like no matter how much you hack at the vines it just keeps coming back.

I am in full agreement, but like kudzu, it is impossible to exterminate. This is why i feel the problem is prohibition. The mob took a real hit not from elliot nash, but from the 21st amendment. Came right back though, gambling and then drugs. Prohibition all over again.

 

[The Wooster]

Have you ever been in a situation (out of uniform) where you've seen something illegal take place? (say pot being passed around at a party, nothing too serious)

In that situation could you take up your role as a police officer without your uniform or badge? Basically does your authority extend to times that you're not on duty if the situation calls for it?

Are there any laws you completely disagree with but you've been required to enforce? And if so which would you say you disagree with the most?

This is an absolutely brilliant topic by the way.

 

[KapnKerfuffle]

What are your feelings on using tazer weapons? They seem like a very divisive issue. Personally I think they are a great tool for non-lethal force but some think they are a torture device. Second follow up question: Do you really have to get shocked by one to qualify on them every year?

 

[Beffudled Sheep]

Unregistered is that bad huh?
Well i can't have to many

1, 2, 3...7,... 10...
Im in trouble.

Hey... want to do me a favor?

 

[SenseOfTumour]

What gives you the right to dictate what substances free individuals take into their own bodies, you Fascist, power-tripping, pig.

I so hope that's some kinda troll joke...

As I was trying to make clear, in my admittedly long post, cops don't make the decisions they just signed up to try to make the world a better place by dealing with those who break the rules. If you don't like the rules, then look higher up the system for someone to abuse.

Also, a sensible, well thought out argument as to why will earn you a bit more respect here than outright flaming.

 

[AgentNein]

I've got this uhh, friend who got a speeding ticket back in September, promptly forgot it. In fact just found it in my or his car. What would be the best course of action here?

EDIT: By the by I haven't heard one single word on it, and believe me if I got one single thing in the mail I would've taken care of it promptly. Right now I'm abit nervous at approaching the issue.

EDIT 2: I mean my friend. He's nervous.

 

[Pimppeter2]

do you ever use you suit for stripping?

 

[bodyklok]

There is no innocence only varying degrees of guilt. (Dawn of war is awesome!)

Yeah!Dawn of war pwns. More on topic, do you have any female co-workers? If so do they get treated any defantley, do you act defantley around them (professionally of course) by say, always keeping an more of an eye on them to make sure their safe.

Finally to quote a obscure line from oblivion. "What are the cahrges for necrophilia in cyrodil (i.e. your state)."

 

[BubbleGumSnareDrum]

In your experience as a police officer, have you been thoroughly convinced that marijuana users are dangerous and that marijuana should retail its legal title of "deadly drug" under Schedule I? If so, example situations please.

 

[Frank_Sinatra_]

What's the most powerful firearm your force is authorized to use?

 

[Rascarin]

What would you do if you pulled over a girl for speeding, and she cited "womens problems" as the reason, and that she "really needed to get home soon". Ticket or warning? Would she have to prove it?

Hypothetical, of course. I'm totally not planning on using that if I ever get pulled for speeding. Because... I don't speed? Yeah...

 

[JWAN]

Okay, what are officers views on semi-large groups (7-10) of kids in all black just hanging out at a park after dark? Cops always seem to think we're up to something, and just troll the area. It's honestly really annoying.

dude a group of 7-10 white kids is also deemed suspicious, don't take it personally

 

[neolithic]

Okay, what are officers views on semi-large groups (7-10) of kids in all black just hanging out at a park after dark? Cops always seem to think we're up to something, and just troll the area. It's honestly really annoying.

dude a group of 7-10 white kids is also deemed suspicious, don't take it personally

I think people are mis-reading this. He's not saying the kids are black, he's saying they are all wearing black clothes, hoodies, etc...