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Mako SOLDIER

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Mazty said:
Sad Robot said:
Mazty said:
Unfortunately saying makeup doesn't make a face seem more symmetrical just shows you don't really know make-up at all - what is foundation for? etc
How is accentuating a persons features a bad idea/make the less attractive?
Granted, I don't know much about applying make-up. I do know that if you wish to make one's face more symmetrical, you need plastic surgery. I'm not against people using make-up, like I've said. If it makes people feel more secure, good, if it makes them more appealing to the kind of people they want to please, good. What I'm against is assuming that everyone should use make-up because it would make them feel better about themselves, that all people look better with make-up, and that people should always make the effort. And I do find telling a person they should wear make-up rather offensive. Again, if they ask for your opinion, fine.

Mazty said:
The idea of Hollywood women being insecure just sounds like jealous bitching made up by school girls and hardly a valid point, as anyone in a professional media sense wears make-up (TV, magazines). Also look at it from this view - if you were in a large firm, as much as the men wear suits & shave, I can guarantee that women would be expected to wear make-up.
Like I said, it's a legend, but from what i've read from interviews, it does seem to be quite accurate. But that's pure conjecture, I could be wrong there, I don't know these people.

You do know that all men wear make up in movies and television too? It's because of the lighting and filming and all that.

Just because a certain time period promotes a certain look, catering to a certain demographic and general appeal, doesn't mean that all people find that look attractive, and that for self esteem or other reasons need to or should adhere to it. It's like telling someone how they should feel about something.
Make-up can give the illusion of a more symmetrical face by giving a consistent gradient to a dodgy complextion etc.
Sadly you did not answer my question:
How is accentuating a persons features a bad idea/makes them less attractive?
Other than making the person feel better about themselves, make-up hardly makes someone look less attractive. If you look for pictures of actresses without make-up, you will see my point.
Yes men do wear make-up in films as well. It's not just because of lighting and filming, that makes no sense as the lighting can just be daylight, and a prerequisite of filming isn't "you have to wear make-up" - it's because they look better for wearing it, and the audience likes to watch attractive, or at least pleasing people on screen most of the time.
It's not about promoting a certain look - it's about looking better. Would you prefer to go around in the cheapest possible clothing, or given the choice, designer labels?
You have to remember, make-up exists to make people look better. If it didn't do that, or if it was just an "in thing", it wouldn't be hundreds of years old, or a billion dollar industry.
Basically to summarise, everyone would look better with make-up, and when done right, almost everyone would tend to agree (Those who wouldn't are like those who tend to like pain etc, as in be part of an unusual minority), as when it is done right (depending on style) you can't tell as it looks natural.
Oh and proof in point, find me someone who looks better without make-up than with some on.
This is not an attempt to cal you gay, so humour me on the question and I will explain it afterwards. Do you think other men look better in make-up? Do you think a goat looks better with make-up?
 

Lovelocke

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ma55ter_fett said:
Lovelocke said:
ma55ter_fett said:
No point in pursuing anything if she can't get my blood pumping.
Forgive me if I hijack the thread, but this saying always made me wonder: Is this something like heart malfunction or are we talking about blood pumping to the penis, transforming it from Von Limpenstein to Castle Erectionvania?
What do you think?
I'm sorry... I didn't mean to poke fun at your previously existing health condition.
 

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dududf said:
There are three types of Gamer girls.

1) The type, that only play games so they can whore attention from the male gamers.

2) Are the same as normal Male gamers, excluding looks, and certain gennitallia

3) Are guys.

What more needs to be said ?
legit
seconded
 

Harmondale2

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I don't see what the big deal is about being a girl and a gamer? My friend hates the fact that every guy trys to add her online just because shes a girl,

So my question for you is do you agree with her??

And do you think being a girl gamer makes you more sought after by the males?
 

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Mr.Black said:
$10 says you're gay. I mean, it's not homo if they're just a mix of X and Y chromosomes right?
You just lost $10. Although I suppose I do boarder on asexual a lot of the time. If you don't know what that is, look it up.

DiscoveryOne said:
Actually its just the presence of Y or not. (Im sorry, I was a biology major, its compulsive)
Nothing wrong with being specific; I should have been more precice and mentioned if it was either an XX or XY match.
Haha, yea its all good.
I just feel like instead of a grammar nazi Im the guy who corrects people on basic genetics then immediately says "dont hate me! Im not trying to be a snob! I studied this for 4 years is all" haha
 

Mako SOLDIER

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Mazty said:
Mako SOLDIER said:
Mazty said:
Sad Robot said:
Mazty said:
Unfortunately saying makeup doesn't make a face seem more symmetrical just shows you don't really know make-up at all - what is foundation for? etc
How is accentuating a persons features a bad idea/make the less attractive?
Granted, I don't know much about applying make-up. I do know that if you wish to make one's face more symmetrical, you need plastic surgery. I'm not against people using make-up, like I've said. If it makes people feel more secure, good, if it makes them more appealing to the kind of people they want to please, good. What I'm against is assuming that everyone should use make-up because it would make them feel better about themselves, that all people look better with make-up, and that people should always make the effort. And I do find telling a person they should wear make-up rather offensive. Again, if they ask for your opinion, fine.

Mazty said:
The idea of Hollywood women being insecure just sounds like jealous bitching made up by school girls and hardly a valid point, as anyone in a professional media sense wears make-up (TV, magazines). Also look at it from this view - if you were in a large firm, as much as the men wear suits & shave, I can guarantee that women would be expected to wear make-up.
Like I said, it's a legend, but from what i've read from interviews, it does seem to be quite accurate. But that's pure conjecture, I could be wrong there, I don't know these people.

You do know that all men wear make up in movies and television too? It's because of the lighting and filming and all that.

Just because a certain time period promotes a certain look, catering to a certain demographic and general appeal, doesn't mean that all people find that look attractive, and that for self esteem or other reasons need to or should adhere to it. It's like telling someone how they should feel about something.
Make-up can give the illusion of a more symmetrical face by giving a consistent gradient to a dodgy complextion etc.
Sadly you did not answer my question:
How is accentuating a persons features a bad idea/makes them less attractive?
Other than making the person feel better about themselves, make-up hardly makes someone look less attractive. If you look for pictures of actresses without make-up, you will see my point.
Yes men do wear make-up in films as well. It's not just because of lighting and filming, that makes no sense as the lighting can just be daylight, and a prerequisite of filming isn't "you have to wear make-up" - it's because they look better for wearing it, and the audience likes to watch attractive, or at least pleasing people on screen most of the time.
It's not about promoting a certain look - it's about looking better. Would you prefer to go around in the cheapest possible clothing, or given the choice, designer labels?
You have to remember, make-up exists to make people look better. If it didn't do that, or if it was just an "in thing", it wouldn't be hundreds of years old, or a billion dollar industry.
Basically to summarise, everyone would look better with make-up, and when done right, almost everyone would tend to agree (Those who wouldn't are like those who tend to like pain etc, as in be part of an unusual minority), as when it is done right (depending on style) you can't tell as it looks natural.
Oh and proof in point, find me someone who looks better without make-up than with some on.
This is not an attempt to cal you gay, so humour me on the question and I will explain it afterwards. Do you think other men look better in make-up? Do you think a goat looks better with make-up?
Hollywood must use make-up on men for a reason. I personally wouldn't use the stuff, but I shave, use hair products and what I think is necessary to look good.
A goat has fur. It's just a retarded question with no relevance to the point at hand.
End of the day, if you want to say someone looks better without make-up than with, I'd like to see before and after pictures of that person, as all the time with Hollywood actresses, considered some of the best looking women in the world, the average view is they look better with make-up than without.
Yes, and thus in saying "the average view" you finally acknowledge that it is an opinion. It is not fact. Don't get me wrong, you're totally welcome to your opinion, but I would suggest you try to reign in yout tendency to attack anyone with a differing opinion whilst defending your own as fact. For instance, beauty is completely subjective yet you discount someone else's opinion by telling them it isn't a matter of opinion. As there is no equation governing beauty or any scientific study into the matter, and others have expressed opposing opinions to yours, that in itself is evidence that the argument is not black and white and is indeed subjective.

If you want to argue that people always look better with make-up then how about you show us some before and after photos instead? After all, you're the person who was trying to say that your opinion is absolute fact. It's your responsibility to prove everyone else wrong, not the other way around. Also, for the record, make-up IS used on actors to conpensate for a variety of lighting conditions, not because of some general consensus that make-up makes everyone look better. You see, in this respect, unless you have been involved in film making to any significant extent you don't have the authority. As a several times paid extra (yes, in hollywood movies) with plenty of experience with amateur film making, I can tell you for a fact that make-up is mostly used to compensate for lighting. Yes, it can be used to enhance an actor or actress' appearence, but that is not the primary reason for it, ie when shooting on location some people will need make-up and others won't.

As for the goat, you realise that fur, much like eyelashes, eyebrows, etc is made of hair, something that there are many, many products for, right? So, the only thing that makes it a "retarded question" (oh, and way to insult someone without provocation there) in your eyes is the fact that you strongly believe (probably) that animals would look ridiculous in make-up. As it happens, I would agree with you there, but it is still just an opinion, no matter how popular that opinion may be.

Anyhoo, back to the OP:

Do you ever choose male characters or just not let on that you're female in online games just to avoid the misguided 'special' treatment that you would get from some people?
 

i did it 4 the lulz

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LiteraryLitany said:
So, with the relationship thread and the minor male-female numbers discrepancy on my mind I thought it might be fun to give myself a challenge. Other females feel free to join me in the question-answering.

Is there anything you've always wanted to ask about Geek Girls, that... well, we're not quite so rare anymore, but certainly a unique breed of female? Keep in mind that any questions asked just to annoy will be ignored. Try to keep it to things you're *genuinely* curious about.
are you a virgin?
 

LiteraryLitany

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LiteraryLitany said:
And no, I haven't built my own PC yet. Too busy plotting to kidnap my brother's Alienware.
This has nothing to do with gender but why on earth would you want an Alienware?
Because my brother spent oodles of cash on his and it's got the highest stats of a computer I could actually nip. And it's pretty.
 

LiteraryLitany

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A13X T3h NubCak3 said:
My girlfriend plays diner dash, sims, spyro and Crash bandicoot ... My question is.. What makes a female gamer? is it the fact you play mainly Male games like Team fortress and left 4 dead, or can you be a female gamer and play games that arent so manly (like sims)

We have played l4d 1 together and she said she enjoyed it (was actually rather good :p) But i cant tell if shes just saying that because she likes me
Well, I'm not as picky about the title, mostly because if I was there would be no other gamer girls for me to hang out with. I think so long as she's properly video game literate in the other styles(Like, she's dabbled but still prefers her... *eyetwitch* Sims... for some unquantifiable reason).
 

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Xelanath said:
Mazty, you appear to have missed Sad Robot's statement that our opinions are subjective. While I'm arguing against you I recognise that you believe that make-up is always better than no make-up; I'm only attempting to get you to understand the legitimacy of an opposing position.

Mazty said:
As I said, make-up makes people look better as it gives a more symmetrical appearance while highlighting the persons good features. Saying someone looks better without make-up is saying a car looks better unpolished, or a room untidy.
Your two examples are also subjective. Many people prefer an untidy room.
One of the obvious arguments against make-up is that it's fake, and can be entirely unnecessary. Yes, it can help to accentuate the attractive features of a person's face, but it can also obscure someone's true beauty.

If you look better, you feel better, hence why women should wear make-up.
It is only your opinion that make-up always makes someone look better. Personally I definitely prefer knowing that a member of the opposite sex is naturally attractive than that they can skilfully apply make-up.

"Any reason not to wear one is a good one"
How did you come to that idea? Really? Sounds more like you may be the one with low self esteem trying to find a like minded woman, as saying if you don't try to look good, that's a good idea. It makes no sense.
Alternatively, I'd argue that many women who wear a lot of make-up have lower self-esteem than women who don't. Women who don't, or don't often, or only wear a little, may simply be more comfortable with themselves.
I just saw this and I have to agree with Xel. If I were a guy, or a lesbian or whatever I would much perfer a natural beauty than a caked up make-up junkie. Sure they look good, but they also look a little fake, and not only that but up close their coverp is very flakey and easily seen as a powder over the skin. Some girls need a bit of coverup but most don't need it all over their face and 4 shades darker for that nice orange tan look. Again if I were a lesbian or something I would rather wake up in the morning with my girl beside me as pretty as she was when we went to bed rather than a hidious mess of smudged off crap. It just doesn't look good. And I also agree that women with low self-esteem tend to wear more make-up.
 

LiteraryLitany

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easy evil said:
well I see the amount of douchebaggery has gone down (heh its probably misspelled that in every way )
What do you consider a “Geek Boy” to be like?
What interests does he need to have?
And what geeky things will want to do with him ?(I can only imagine)
I think a Geek Boy must, at least be mostly conversant in Geek Speak. (ie, having a laundry list of quotes from cult classics at the ready for any occasion) There are so many options for different kinds of geeks it's hard to pin down specific necessities of interest. (although I have been known to deny a persons geekiness if they saw and didn't at least like Firefly)

As for geeky things to do with him? I'm a big convention fan(if you date me, you will be forced to couple-cosplay, make your peace with it). There's all forms of games(I'm a self-confessed back-seat gamer if it's one-player, so beware), and even the non-digital ones like table-top and LARP. A good geek girl can turn any of these things romantic.