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Mathurin

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fix-the-spade said:
Mathurin said:
I dont know what a "glock wall" is, could you be more specific?
Certainly.

To dismantle a Glock hand gun the trigger has to be pulled to disengage the slide lock. Which is fine provided you make sure the chamber is empty.

It's depressingly common for Glock owners taking their gun apart to be lax in this check and have a round chambered when they go to disassemble, they pull the trigger to start removing the slide and BANG. An ostensibly 'unloaded' weapon goes off and Glock wall is the result.

It's so common that Glock Wall is pretty much the go to term for an accidental discharge during maintanence. Usually because of poor handling practice.

So basically, have you or any friends had a gun you didn't think was loaded go off in your hands or work vice? If so what were the consequences?
No, never happened to me, have only met one gun owner that shot himself in the hand while cleaning a firearm.

A good gun owner knows that a firearm is dangerous and must be treated with respect



Scabadus said:
As a Hitman: Blood Money fan, does a bolt action mechanism actually increase the accuracy of a shot?

And being from England and hence only ever having fired a .22 rifle under VERY strict control in the cadets, how much harder is it to fire a double action revolver than a normal gun? I've heard you have to put "more pressure" on the trigger, but nothing more accurate.
There is heated debate about whether a bolt action is more accurate than any other action, I dont know, what I can say is that no matter what the shooter is the main cause of accuracy, the difference between a bolt action and other type will be so minimal that its impossible to tell without locking the gun down to a bench and taking the shooter out of the equation.

A double action requires a longer trigger pull, and somewhat more pressure.
Some find that firing double action increases their accuracy because they tend to "yank" the trigger, much like a person playing a videogame will mash the button on their mouse. This causes the gun to move and changes the point of impact.
As a double action tends to "surprise" the shooter when it actually fires, it can counter act the yank affect.




twistedmic said:
What size caliber are our non-target practice handguns? And what caliber do you think is the best for home/ self defense?
These questions are overly vague.

Any handgun can be used for target practice, so what do you mean by "non-target practice"
And a large number of calibers exist, not sure what you are asking.

Self defense Caliber is more about the person shooting than the situation

dimensione510 said:
If you fire two shots with a revolver, and then reload, do ALL the shells automatically eject, or just the ones you fired? Or do they not automtically eject at all? (would probably depend on the gun)
Depends on the firearm.

Some double action revolvers automatically eject the shells, not many though
Most have a lever you push that will shove the shells out, these will shove all the rounds the same distance but since unfired rounds are longer sometimes it will shove only the empty shells all the way out and leave the fired ones to be pushed back/fall back into the chambers.

Some revolvers have no easy method of removing the spent casings, they must be manually pushed out with a rod.
 

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Rickyvantof said:
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Seriously though why do you own a gun?Is it for hunting or self defence or a different reason?
Because it's a right and they are fun to shoot. I don't hunt so I guess out of your two options mostly just self defence .
You own a gun because you like to shoot, yet you use it for self-defense?
I guess you're a person who has to defend himself a lot then...
Lol ok I can see where it doesn't sound good worded like that. One of the reasons I have them are for self defence, but I also enjoy going to the shooting range and doing target practice.
 

Slidebite

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Sure is kneejerk in here. It's as if the anti-gun people are more violent than the pro-gun ones. Fancy that.
 

Mathurin

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Do you have any guns with really bad kickback? Like send you flying or it shoots up in the air when you fire it kind of bad kickback.

Also have you ever been in the military?

EDIT: If you haven't been in the military did someone teach you to use your firearms or are you self taught?
Yeah, I have a mosin nagant, it shoots a .308 equivalent round and has a steel buttplate.
There are more powerful rifles out there though, didnt send me flying. Rarely does a first shot ever go into the air.

I learned from my father, no military



Deviluk said:
If you had to go on a typical FPS style mission, i.e. lots of baddies to kill, which gun would you choose? (out of any in the world, not your, quite frankly, pedestrian collection).
P90 or a calico, very large magazines.
P90 frankly.

Though it depends on the ranges involved and other specific situations.

Deviluk said:
And, don't you think that you should turn your attention to educating your massive criminal population instead of shooting them?
I will happily educate those whom we can, it doesnt mean I will let the uneducated kill me.

In case you didnt know its only legal to shoot someone if they are a threat to your life.

Deviluk said:
Where exactly in America are you from? Did you vote for that McCaine fella? Don't you think practicing to shoot is a waste of time? Why not learn a musical instrument? At least that may lead to sex with a woman, rather than shooting tin cans.
Kansas
No, I voted libertarian.
Shooting is fun and challenging, you practice your hobbies and I will practice mine.
I am not a musical person, i tried


Karud said:
HaraDaya said:
...I don't have much experience being from Denmark and all. Firearms are not allowed. ....
Never heard about the lazy police, or high Danish crime rate. ;)
Im quite happy the european laws are much tougher on gun-owning than in other countries. But still: I believe there are more needless deaths through legit gun owners, and wrong safekeeping, than lifes safed (By privat! Not by official firearms).
If you want to discuss gun control please take it somewhere else

EMFCRACKSHOT said:
Mathurin said:
they cause no harm by themselves, they are tools which require a person to activate.
Not entirely true. They can go off by themselves. When my dad was in the navy, one of his friends guns went off and shot him in the arse. (The gun was holstered, safety on and it still went off) of course, the chances of this happening are very rare.

How easy is it for an englishman to get a gun in America? I was thinking of moving there in maybe 10 years and i want to keep up with my hunting.
There is always a reason for a gun to go off, they never go off for no reason.
Most likely he was carrying it "cocked and locked"
That is with the hammer cocked and the safety on.

Safeties are never to be trusted.

I dont think you will have as much trouble getting one as you dop in england, but confess I dont know.
Its also highly dependent on the region you move to, some gun laws are tougher than others

rabidmidget said:
On a scale of 1 to 10, how prepared would you say you are for a zombie apocalypse?
4, dont have a food stockpile, but have plenty of ammo


GreyFox389 said:
How hard is it to find a suppressor?
They are easy to find, but very difficult to buy in the US, you must be licensed for it, that takes over 6 months so I hear.
 

Pyotr Romanov

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Why are you?

Seriously, though. Did you ever have to use it? Judging from the posts on page one, no. But I'll still ask.
 

Scabadus

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Second post in this thread but I feel compelled to ask this:

You seem like somebody who knows their buisness around guns, so I'm guessing any accidental discharges you've personally had went off down range or into the ground (just saying that so you know I'm not accusing you of anything), but what's the worst/stupidest/most dangerous thing you've seen someone do with a firearm?

My instructor told me of a guy firing a machine gun at a range and the guy got what's known as a "runaway trigger" (gun keeps firing on fully automatic even after you let go of the trigger, for people who don't know) and, still holding the gun, this guy turned around saying "Help, what do I do?". Luckily, the person next to him on the range managed to stop him before he actually shot anyone, but it just goes to show how thoughtless people can be even when holding a tool that was origionally designed to kill people.
 

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Does the Ross Rifle really such that much? Do you really fire from the hip and never from the shoulder? Have you been affected by the apparent hoarding of ammunition by Americans?
 

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I got the following few questions:

What kinds of firearms do you own?

What do you use them for?

What kind of gun would you use for range shooting?

What's the cheapest gun out there, and how much does it cost? And is it safe?

What's your favorite brand/piece?

I'm sorry I just really like guns. ^^
 

Mathurin

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TooMiserableToLive said:
Why are you?

Seriously, though. Did you ever have to use it? Judging from the posts on page one, no. But I'll still ask.
I assume you mean have i ever had to fire upon another human being in self defense, no.



Scabadus said:
Second post in this thread but I feel compelled to ask this:

You seem like somebody who knows their buisness around guns, so I'm guessing any accidental discharges you've personally had went off down range or into the ground (just saying that so you know I'm not accusing you of anything), but what's the worst/stupidest/most dangerous thing you've seen someone do with a firearm?

My instructor told me of a guy firing a machine gun at a range and the guy got what's known as a "runaway trigger" (gun keeps firing on fully automatic even after you let go of the trigger, for people who don't know) and, still holding the gun, this guy turned around saying "Help, what do I do?". Luckily, the person next to him on the range managed to stop him before he actually shot anyone, but it just goes to show how thoughtless people can be even when holding a tool that was origionally designed to kill people.
WTF?
wow, thats dumb.

No, I havent had accidental discharges hurt anyone, fortunately my experience with morons has been no dumber than people holding a gun with their finger on the trigger, and a person picking up a loaded gun without asking if they could, nor checking to see if it was loaded.

I always heard that called a "cook off"
Because the barrel gets so hot that the heat sets off the cartridge that gets shoved in, which shoves the next round in automatically, which also gets set off, etc until there is no more ammo.
 

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Lonan said:
Does the Ross Rifle really such that much? Do you really fire from the hip and never from the shoulder? Have you been affected by the apparent hoarding of ammunition by Americans?
ross rifle? i'm not sure what that is

and firing from the hip is a hollywood thing, anyone who does it IRL is irresponsible.

everyone who owns a gun has been affected by the ammo hoarding, but luckily some of the lesser used calibers have been spared. I think most of the hoarding is over, too, actually.
 

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Do you have a musket, or are you interesting in period weaponary of this kind?

Muskets are sweet

(Not for use as an actual gun, but like having a typewriter: it's cool and oldey-timey)
 

Slidebite

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Spacelord said:
I got the following few questions:

What kinds of firearms do you own?

What do you use them for?

What kind of gun would you use for range shooting?

What's the cheapest gun out there, and how much does it cost? And is it safe?

What's your favorite brand/piece?

I'm sorry I just really like guns. ^^
I'll answer this one, too

I own a 1932 91/30 mosin nagant rifle, chambered in the usual 7.62x54r and a CZ-52 single action pistol chambered in the usual 7.62x25

both of those guns are great for range shooting because they're both cheap and ammo is plentiful right now. Cheapest gun you could probably get is some .22 derringer, but I wouldn't recommend it even as a first gun. Also stay away from anything Hi-Point as a general rule.

my favorite brand is CZ (http://cz-usa.com/), mainly for the CZ-75 series of pistols
 

Mathurin

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Lonan said:
Does the Ross Rifle really such that much?
I had never heard of it, but after looking it up it appears to be another example of why a finely crafted firearm does poorly in war.
It was too complicated, and couldnt deal with mud

Lonan said:
Do you really fire from the hip and never from the shoulder?
Uh, no.

Hip firing is a joke, it has one use in war, well maybe 2
cover fire, inaccurate fire meant solely to make your enemy duck behind cover and not fire at you
OH SHIT THERES AN ENEMY, also known as hail mary stuff.


Nobody fires from the hip and expects to actually hit something.

That said it is fun when you are just goofing off


Lonan said:
Have you been affected by the apparent hoarding of ammunition by Americans?
No, I would probably be counted as a hoarder, never found it difficult to find standard ammunition in a store
 

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What guns would you suggest for home defense?
Is the FAL, in real life, a decent gun? I happened to come across one the other day, and it looks cool BUT I'm sure looks don't make the gun.
 

Ataxia

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What do you think is the easiest gun to handle? Any specific one that you own or just a type of gun in general. Thanks for answering btw.
 

Mathurin

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Spacelord said:
I got the following few questions:

What kinds of firearms do you own?

What do you use them for?

What kind of gun would you use for range shooting?

What's the cheapest gun out there, and how much does it cost? And is it safe?

What's your favorite brand/piece?

I'm sorry I just really like guns. ^^
My favorite type of firearm is military surplus

The cheapest gun I have run across is a mosin nagant, they can be purchased for $75 and yes, they are safe guns, just overproduced by the USSR



GrinningManiac said:
Do you have a musket, or are you interesting in period weaponary of this kind?

Muskets are sweet

(Not for use as an actual gun, but like having a typewriter: it's cool and oldey-timey)
I have a reproduction 1851 colt navy revolver and a .50 cal caplock muzzleloading rifle
Dont have a musket, they are smoothbore
 

Slidebite

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a shotgun is always a nice place to start.

something like the Mossberg 590 in 12ga. wouldn't be a terrible idea, plus there's all kinds of accessories you can slap on it, like flashlights and different stocks, etc. Also shotguns like that are usually reasonably priced, generally $300+ or so.

If you're more of a handgun guy, get a CZ-75 in 9mm, probably one of the most reliable guns i've ever handled, but that's just me. Oh yeah, and it's gonna cost more than a shotgun to get a CZ-75, probably around the $600 range, for a brand new one.

*EDIT* oops, this was meant for NghtmaresXNoVaKaiNe's post

I forgot to hit the right button, I guess
 

Mathurin

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NghtmaresXNoVaKaiNe said:
What guns would you suggest for home defense?
Is the FAL, in real life, a decent gun? I happened to come across one the other day, and it looks cool BUT I'm sure looks don't make the gun.
Home defense is a tough one, of you live in town a shotgun is usually good, it doesnt overpenetrate (ie, wont kill your neighbor through 3 walls) you might get a pistol grip one though.

The FAL has a following of fans, its supposed to be a really good gun.
I dont have one, but I want one.


Ataxia said:
What do you think is the easiest gun to handle? Any specific one that you own or just a type of gun in general. Thanks for answering btw.
easiest in what way?

A great gun for a beginner is a single shot .22 rifle, its cheap to shoot and has no recoil. Most shooters learn on this kind of gun.