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G-Dragon

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Jalugi said:
Discon said:
How does one commit murder with a gun, without getting caught?
Join the army?

If you shot a gun horizontally from the earth and dropped a bullet at the same time/height which one would land first, if wind and curvature weren't an issue.

and... pictures of your guns please.

DO you hunt or collect?

Also why do bad cowboys always win? :)
the one that you shoot because it will reach terminal velocity faster/start at terminal velocity
 

Mathurin

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Hybridwolf said:
My question, is which rifle make would people recomend? I've read that a .22 is best to start with, any manufactures you'd recommend, avoid etc?
.22 rifle is an excellent place to start.

Right now I am looking for a marlin .22, they shoot extremely well.
But most .22 rifles are fine, rugers are good if you just have to have another brand.

Hard to buy a bad .22



TheNumber1Zero said:
Have you ever shot your own foot?
No, whats the point of this question?



Roaminthecrimesolvingpaladin said:
Mathurin said:
Roaminthecrimesolvingpaladin said:
Have you ever used it and if so for what (apologies if someone's already asked this)?
Depends on what you mean by "use"
I shoot often enough, its fun and challenging as a hobby.
I have hunted, though not often.
When I say use I mean fired, i.e. at a burglar or cat etc...I assume from your previous post that you fire at targets/skeet or somesuch
I have killed animals yes.
Quail mostly, I hunted deer once but it was too warm so they never showed up to be shot at.



Skywolf09 said:
Would a Mosin Nagant be a good first rifle? I've been considering purchasing one due to their abundance and cheap price, but I've never owned a gun before thus I don't know if one of those would be a good choice.
No, it kicks really hard, you will shoot it a few times and probably stop because it hurts.
You should start with a used .22 rifle, can be had for around $200, I would get a marlin.




War Chief Will said:
Do you own a plasma rifle? come on I KNOW YOU DO!
Also, If you could would you buy a plasma rifle?
Again, If you did buy several Which one would be your favourite?
They dont exist to the best of my knowledge, though I would not mind owning one, I cant imagine what plasma would do to a deer or a tin can, but i would love to find out.


Of the ones I own I like my mosin nagant best right now, which is strange because it is the cheapest.
Its long range and pretty accurate.
 

Hybridwolf

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KK, thanks for the advice, and one other question:

The SPAS-12 is extremely popular in video games and is still used in them, but I heard that not only are they unreliable, but they stopped making them a long time ago? I can't remember the date, but it was a hell of a long time ago.
 

GreyWolf257

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Do you have problems with varmints (or whatever you wish to call them) that you sometimes have to take care of? That is one of the big reasons I have my firearms (besides from collecting and plinking). I have some moles that keep digging up my yard and I decided to shoot them. Felt kinda bad about it though...

Sorry, all of the good questions have been asked already, yet I feel like contributing.
 

TheNumber1Zero

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Mathurin said:
TheNumber1Zero said:
Have you ever shot your own foot?
No, whats the point of this question?
To see if you were a decent marksman or just some guy with a gun. If you never shot your own foot, your a decent marksman, if you had shot your foot, then the context of the incedent (Distraction, Lack of attention, Arm Spasm, Etc.) would decide what I thought of you. Rather simple really.

What's your opinion on Bolt Action rifles?
 

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Hybridwolf said:
KK, thanks for the advice, and one other question:

The SPAS-12 is extremely popular in video games and is still used in them, but I heard that not only are they unreliable, but they stopped making them a long time ago? I can't remember the date, but it was a hell of a long time ago.
yeah people still sell them on gunbroker.com, but they'll usually do some nasty price gouging just because they know people want them bad enough to pay out the ass for them
 

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Mathurin said:
D4zZ said:
Can you hold your gun sideways out of a moving Cadillacs window and still hit the old lady across the street?
Holding a gun sideways is a silly and inaccurate method of firing a firearm.
I cannot speak to anyone's accuracy in such a situation, I have never done anything similar to that.

Shooting at old ladies who are not threatening your life is illegal and immoral
...And hilarious.
 

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G-Dragon said:
Jalugi said:
Discon said:
If you shot a gun horizontally from the earth and dropped a bullet at the same time/height which one would land first, if wind and curvature weren't an issue.
the one that you shoot because it will reach terminal velocity faster/start at terminal velocity
Nope, they land at the same time. This is a very popular A-level (EDIT: this is an English college qualification) physics question designed to trick people into answering incorrectly.

The acceleration downward applied by gravity is affected in no way by the fact that a fired bullet is travelling horizontally.
 

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MetalDooley said:
Does firing a gun give you wood?

Seriously though why do you own a gun?Is it for hunting or self defence or a different reason?
I think that most people, especially in the USA owns a gun not just as a self defense necessity(I probalby spelled that waay worng), but also because it is a comfort factor. Also, many Americans feel like it's their responsibility to have a gun to protect others (family, friends etc.).
 

Mathurin

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Hybridwolf said:
KK, thanks for the advice, and one other question:

The SPAS-12 is extremely popular in video games and is still used in them, but I heard that not only are they unreliable, but they stopped making them a long time ago? I can't remember the date, but it was a hell of a long time ago.
I havent heard, though I have heard that shotguns are extremely difficult to make automatic (either full or semi) something about how they cant siphon off gas from the explosion, must use inertial methods which have problems.


GreyWolf257 said:
Do you have problems with varmints (or whatever you wish to call them) that you sometimes have to take care of? That is one of the big reasons I have my firearms (besides from collecting and plinking). I have some moles that keep digging up my yard and I decided to shoot them. Felt kinda bad about it though...

Sorry, all of the good questions have been asked already, yet I feel like contributing.
Meh, we have shot at some muskrats, they tunnel through a pond damn and destroy the pond
 

Mathurin

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TheNumber1Zero said:
Mathurin said:
TheNumber1Zero said:
Have you ever shot your own foot?
No, whats the point of this question?
To see if you were a decent marksman or just some guy with a gun. If you never shot your own foot, your a decent marksman, if you had shot your foot, then the context of the incedent (Distraction, Lack of attention, Arm Spasm, Etc.) would decide what I thought of you. Rather simple really.

What's your opinion on Bolt Action rifles?
Nothing wrong with them, I only have one.
They are great when you can take your time.

Personally I prefer autos when I can afford them, we have enough tech to make them very reliable so that isnt really an issue.
 

Daveman

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Mathurin said:
I have about 12 or 13, though several are very esoteric guns which I never use, but which selling would gain little and I might need them again someday. (its like getting rid of that old console you dont play anymore)

My mainly useful firearms are

a semi-auto .22 for plinking (informal target practice)
2 semi-auto pistols, a small one for concealed carry when I decide to get a license, a larger one because its more accurate
a russian bolt action rifle from WWII for longer range target practice
Practical question:: How much did all that cost you?
Kinda moral questions: In terms of "protection", who do you feel you need "protecting" from? Do you think it's fair to shoot somebody stealing from you or trespassing on your property or is it genuinely only as a last resort when you know this person intends to kill or horribly injure you?

edit: probably shouldn't have put quotes on protection as I believe the actual term was "self-defence"
 

LiquidGrape

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Is this a common sight in your circles?

"Gooble, gobble, we accept her, we accept her, one of us, one of us!"
 

hittite

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Mathurin said:
zenfox3 said:
Do you find this funny?
"Remember, guns dont kill people.
Guns protect people from people with smaller guns."
Only slightly, the problem is that even smaller guns are totally deadly if used properly, so the old "get a bigger gun" thing means absolutely nothing at all.



Pr0 InSaNiTy said:
Do you ever feel that if no-one had guns, the world would be a better place?
The old "if they were never invented" thought?
No, because if you look into history you find that firearms were the dominant cause of the fall of the aristocracy.
No longer could kings and douchebags ride around the battlefield virtually immune to the commoners weapons.
And a warrior which took a decade to train could be killed by a peasant taught to use a firearm in a day.

It shifted the balance of power dramatically to the people.
True, but not completely. Before guns, there was the longbow and the crossbow. While harder and longer to train with than a firearm, a good English longbow is easy to use, easy to make with a little training, easy to conceal, and can punch clean through plate mail at close to medium range. Please see the battle of Agincourt in which the French knights were slaughtered en mass by peasants with bows.

As to the world being better, no. people would still be people, we'd just have to work a little harder to kill each other.
 

Mathurin

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Daveman said:
Mathurin said:
I have about 12 or 13, though several are very esoteric guns which I never use, but which selling would gain little and I might need them again someday. (its like getting rid of that old console you dont play anymore)

My mainly useful firearms are

a semi-auto .22 for plinking (informal target practice)
2 semi-auto pistols, a small one for concealed carry when I decide to get a license, a larger one because its more accurate
a russian bolt action rifle from WWII for longer range target practice
Practical question:: How much did all that cost you?
Those specific ones?
something around 1200, i may have spent about $2K on the entire collection over the years.
Realize that they are also assets that dont depreciate much over time, unless I damage the items they will retain pretty much the value they have now, used guns lose something like 10% just from transaction stuff (buyers and sellers getting their cut) so its not so much of a cost as a purchased asset.

gun last an extremely long time.



Daveman said:
Kinda moral questions: In terms of "protection", who do you feel you need "protecting" from? Do you think it's fair to shoot somebody stealing from you or trespassing on your property or is it genuinely only as a last resort when you know this person intends to kill or horribly injure you?

edit: probably shouldn't have put quotes on protection as I believe the actual term was "self-defence"
I will only shoot in defense of life or to prevent serious bodily injury.
Firing upon thieves or trespassers is illegal, and if nothing else will end up putting me in jail.

That said, I might threaten the use of deadly force upon a thief




s69-5 said:
What are the laws in your area for the proper storage of firearms (and ammunition)?

My father owns about 8-10 different hunting rifles/ shotguns of varying types including one from 1896, that my grandfather brought with him to Europe during WWII.

Where we live, guns must be registered (makes sense to me), locked away (not loaded) when stored. Ammo may not be stored with the firearms (must be in a separate area).
No registration here, beyond records kept at the point of sale which can be viewed whenever the ATF wants. No licensing, just an instant background check

We have no safe storage laws in my area, my guns may be stored loaded if I choose



nomadic_chad said:
Is it true that there's a point on a man's head where if you shoot it, it will blow up?
uh, if you put enough force into a closed container then it will explode, dont know about human heads but I know gallon milk jugs totally explode when hit with most rifles.
 

Mathurin

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hittite said:
Mathurin said:
zenfox3 said:
Do you find this funny?
"Remember, guns dont kill people.
Guns protect people from people with smaller guns."
Only slightly, the problem is that even smaller guns are totally deadly if used properly, so the old "get a bigger gun" thing means absolutely nothing at all.



Pr0 InSaNiTy said:
Do you ever feel that if no-one had guns, the world would be a better place?
The old "if they were never invented" thought?
No, because if you look into history you find that firearms were the dominant cause of the fall of the aristocracy.
No longer could kings and douchebags ride around the battlefield virtually immune to the commoners weapons.
And a warrior which took a decade to train could be killed by a peasant taught to use a firearm in a day.

It shifted the balance of power dramatically to the people.
True, but not completely. Before guns, there was the longbow and the crossbow. While harder and longer to train with than a firearm, a good English longbow is easy to use, easy to make with a little training, easy to conceal, and can punch clean through plate mail at close to medium range. Please see the battle of Agincourt in which the French knights were slaughtered en mass by peasants with bows.

As to the world being better, no. people would still be people, we'd just have to work a little harder to kill each other.
Longbowmen were trained from an extremely young age, the english longbow was capable of doing what it did because of its incredible draw weight, an untrained peasant couldnt fire it.



http://militaryhistory.about.com/od/smallarms/p/englongbow.htm
Though an effective weapon, the longbow required extensive training to use effectively. To make sure that deep pool of archers always existed in England, the population, both rich and poor, were encouraged to hone their skills. This was furthered by the government through edicts such King Edward I's ban on sports on Sunday which was designed to ensure that his people practiced archery. As the draw force on the longbow was a hefty 160?180 lbf, archers in training worked their way up to the weapon. The level of training required to be an effective archer discouraged other nations from adopting the weapon.




Modern bows top out around 50-75lbs
You call a five foot long hunk of wood easy to conceal?
 

hittite

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LiquidGrape said:
Is this a common sight in your circles?

"Gooble, gobble, we accept her, we accept her, one of us, one of us!"
No, generally they carry sawed-offs (I kid, I kid)

This is a common misconception about Americans (I think). People hear there's 2 guns for every person living in the US and assume that means that every person in the US owns 2 guns. What it really means is that there are people (including myself) who own about 6 guns (or more). In my defense, all of my guns are used for hunting purposes.