Atheist Bible

[DestroytheTyrant]

This is why I hate atheists more than any other religion , unfortunately , I'am one

 

[Noone From Nowhere]

Alternately, one can just use The Jefferson Bible. Then again, that's more a Deist/Agnostic tome. Atheism is tricky to approach this way without good-natured humor or outright sarcasm.

 

[cuddly_tomato]

This is why I hate atheists more than any other religion , unfortunately , I'am one

Amen brother.

(Ironic about irony! A first for forums!)

 

[Deadman Walkin]

I always thought I was an atheist but I guess I am not. I think evolution is possible but so is a higher power. What is that called?

 

[Bourne Endeavor]

This is why I hate atheists more than any other religion , unfortunately , I'am one

I advise doing what I do then, ignore everyone, Atheists and alike, such a headache saver.

 

[Baby Tea]

I always thought I was an atheist but I guess I am not. I think evolution is possible but so is a higher power. What is that called?

Agnostic.

Also, evolution has nothing to do with the existence, or non existence, of God. That's a lovely little argument trap anti-theists like to try lure the argument towards so they can appear more educated.
Also keep in mind evolution only talks about origin of species, not the origin of life. That is called 'abiogenesis' and is completely unproven.

 

[gr33l]

my bible is the code of law

 

[caross73]

I always thought I was an atheist but I guess I am not. I think evolution is possible but so is a higher power. What is that called?

Agnostic.

Also, evolution has nothing to do with the existence, or non existence, of God. That's a lovely little argument trap anti-theists like to try lure the argument towards so they can appear more educated.
Also keep in mind evolution only talks about origin of species, not the origin of life. That is called 'abiogenesis' and is completely unproven.

Say what? Thats an anti-theist argument? I always found that little conflict to be manufactured by young earth creationists. Even the Vatican admits that evolution is not in conflict with God.

 

[versusterminus7]

I'm a mormon, but I found a lot of Bertrand Russell's books to be positively brilliant.

To paraphrase, 'the point of life is to vreate, build, help, and love, becuase the end of everything is nothingness, which makes it all the more beautiful.'

 

[CapnGod]

Matthew 5:17-19.

The Old Testament is still in force.

 

[Dalisclock]

I'm a militant Agnostic... I don't know, and you don't either.

Also, people who piss us off get giant question marks burned on their lawns.

If it ever gets to an agnostic crusade.....oh boy.

 

[maximilian]

That is actually you. You can't stand religion, therefore you attack it. The difference between that and a religious person not liking someone elses religion and attacking it is...?

Dude, if you want to escape all these theists around here then just move to North Korea. It is an atheist state where religion isn't practiced.

Alternatively you could, you know, just try not to insult, belittle, and generally be a jackass towards people for having beliefs which differ from your own?

Afraid not. I've been living with religious people my whole life. Only most of them are big enough and secure enough in their faith to be able to handle another opinion and not confuse it for hatred. You are the one who seems to have a big problem with people not being just like yourself. Maybe you should learn the difference between an attack, and a criticism.

If I told one of them that the difference between God and the Tooth Fairy is merely semantic, they would say "Maybe so, but I'm willing to take that chance because it would be one heck of an awesome tooth fairy."

Only you would say "You're such a bigoted theophobe, why can't you just live and let live."

Religion has plenty to answer for. Sticking your head in the sand and playing the victim isn't going to get us anywhere. If the truth is out there, we aren't going to find it by tiptoeing around each others feelings or being thin skinned.

To the credit of whoever you're answering - the escapist forums are pretty much Christian bashing boards. I made a thread in which I'd try to answer Christian theological questions so people could understand why Christians think what they do from an internal perspective, and I got 70 messages calling me an idiot (the arguments were well thought out to the downright bizarre) while the thread got over 10,000 replies - 90% of it atheist hate completely off topic and worded in highly baiting ways: "why do you believe in the tooth fairy?lol?"

It isn't that we have confidence of performance issues. When you look at the nature of this thread and then the way that you so kindly word your atheistic assumptions, it is as if I characterised you as believing that nothing collided with nothing and then there were dinosaurs. Of course, whatever big bang theory you subscribe to is going to be far more complex than this derogatory explanation. So, I'd say it would be polite to not assume that the person you're answering is like your friends and happy to be ironical or sarcastic. Having what you believe made into absurdity (often by people whose philosophical and atheist underpinnings rest solely on a single viewing of the film Zeitgeist) in 3 of 4 posts tends to make one quite cautious.

Anyhoo, surely this is a stupid thread? Atheists are pursuers of freedom of thought. To have anything organised like this is to create religion. And also, the guy who said that science is the atheist bible - har har har.
How exactly does that work practically? It's a nice little thematic allusion, but it's crap.

 

[Legion]

I think I just did. When someone's worldview is ridiculous, I'd be doing them a huge disservice to hold back. Does religion need a handicap before it can be debated? Attacking an idea is quite different than attacking the person that holds it.

You know what you sound like there? You know those people who insist that others need to be taught about Christ because if they don't they will go to Hell? Them. It is the exact same thing. You are not someone with a simple belief system, you are The Bringer of Truth and are The Saviour of the people who need to be converted into realising the Right Way.

Hey, I'm not threatening them with damnation. I'm not trying to save them. All I did was say they have no epistemological basis for their belief. That its on par with believing in fairies. And honestly, I *know* people who believe in fairies, good people, a little wierd. I never even really spoke up until somewhere, somebody couldn't stand to not tell everyone how atheists don't have a rational basis for their morality. I found that mildly insulting and wrong.

Who is it who knows everything there is about morality? Who is it that was proselytizing? Not I. I was responding to a misconception about atheism. And you guys couldn't wait to dismantle that.

May I ask why you changed the quotations to say my name? I never said that. I believe it was Cuddly Tomato.

 

[confernal]

Read anything by Darwin. How dare he be all logical and practical.. the douche.

Random fact: Darwin was Catholic, and trained for priesthood before traveling to the Galapagos islands. still practiced after he wrote his theory too

If that's true (I'm not saying it isn't) that is really awesome.

Darwin never said that there was no god... he simply said that the bible which said that god made every creature and no more was wrong about that.

 

[maximilian]

Also, evolution has nothing to do with the existence, or non existence, of God. That's a lovely little argument trap anti-theists like to try lure the argument towards so they can appear more educated.

Well, it does have to do with the existence of *certain* gods, or at least the veracity of the holy text through which those gods are known.

If your holy text says 'god did x' (and especially if it says 'god did x by means of y' and then science comes along and says 'nature did x by means of z' then there's an issue.

Same thing happened before the evolution donnybrook over plate tectonics and Bishop Ussher's Biblical age of the earth.

Also keep in mind evolution only talks about origin of species, not the origin of life. That is called 'abiogenesis' and is completely unproven.

It might be completely unproven, but, anyone who accepts the rest of science and then balks at the idea that science will explain the origin of life someday has clearly switched off their reason and started arguing with their faith.

One can't have confidence in science which has kept on explaining the things we see in biology and then lose confidence just as it gets to explaining something like the origin of life. When people do that, it's because they believe in a 'god of the gaps' where they want to keep some kind of gap open in science that they can fill with god.

However, do you think Moses (who wrote Genesis) was going to explain to those living 600 BC how the world was created scientifically, or was he going to explain it to their minds using epic poetry (which is the textual basis of Gen 1)? Remember, these cats didn't even know how many hours were in a day.

 

[space_oddity]

If nothing else, its nice to incite debate.

 

[Mrsoupcup]

How about we ALL agree on this, belive in what you wan't AND respect others beliefs. See that isn't so hard, stop fighting and shut up.

 

[joystickjunki3]

I thought the thing atheists hated most was "organized religion"
which makes me wonder why they team up and organize meetings or rallies, or stuff like this.
and the topic: "atheist Bible" just screams oxymoron.

Just saying, a bible doesn't mean it's the Bible (as in the religious text). A bible is just a set of stories, or works, which people can refer to.

 

[caross73]

So, I'd say it would be polite to not assume that the person you're answering is like your friends and happy to be ironical or sarcastic.

Thats all well and good, but since when is the truth served by saying "I don't have confidence that my views are correct." I have no doubt that I could avoid argument by watering down my language, couching my views as "I could be wrong, but I merely DOUBT the existence of God...", but to what end? I firmly believe that the people who believe in Yhwh/Allah are thoroughly mistaken. I have epistemology on my side, and I find arguments like "absence of evidence is not evidence of absence" to actually be DANGEROUS because they allow one to believe in ANYTHING, even in flying planes into towers. Religion is for most a choice almost completely dictated by which religions get to them first. People who change religions don't all migrate to one correct religion, they pick them almost at random from choices dictated by their peer group. So what does that tell us? It tells me that most people are going with their gut, not with their head.

If you really believe, then it doesn't matter at ALL what a nonbeliever says. God has a special place set aside for you where you will live in paradise for all eternity ... and then you'll get bent out of shape over a message board saying "Why not believe in Unicorns too?" A message that you made a choice to read in a thread clearly designed to provoke debate?

That's ridiculous. I appreciate that the religious majority in the USA feels put upon, but the fact is that they are not persecuted, they feel ENTITLED to special protections for their beliefs. Protections I add that they will not confer upon other beliefs, such as gay marriage.

Call me when we have an atheist president.