Atheists want God stricken from inaugural oath

[Cinder Block of Oppression]

Aw, boo hoo. Are you afraid your children might get converted?

 

[LewsTherin]

I agree with xitel here. Its like how I would swear on the Great Dragon of Time. If I let it down then what the hell I am here for?

Present.

I say, live and let live. Do as your master commands you and you shall find a place in my 100 Companions as we besiege Shayol Ghul.

 

[Untamed Waters]

Aw, boo hoo. Are you afraid your children might get converted?

Win.

 

[Cinder Block of Oppression]

Aw, boo hoo. Are you afraid your children might get converted?

no there needs to be a seperation of church and state(look at the 40s to 70s propaganda and opresion)

We've been living like this for hundreds of years. Why change the foundation of our country if it isn't affecting us in any way?

 

[Knonsense]

I agree that public officials should have the freedom to express religious beliefs in general, and when taking oath.

On the sub-debate about religious/secular nation, I would say the country is religious, the state is secular.

 

[Vinculi]

That makes alot of sense, seeing as Religion should NEVER be used in politics
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Second.

That's how crusades start.

 

[Adam Jenson]

to the atheist in question. Get over yourself

oh yes sure lets not look at how atheists have been opressed until the 90s and we have been killed acused names and exiled i have been almost shuned by my town because im one of the few atheists

I could go on to say how this happens with every major philosophical movement but I'm sticking to my guns on this one.

but this a non philisofical movement hell i want another spanish inquizition or middle ages when hundreds of books were blacklisted because they didt have christian authors(or the authors were free thinkers and wrote aboute science)

whether its Atheism, Buddhism or tribal cannibalism it's still a philosophy i.e a way of thinking. I doubt another inquisition would help much either since I'm pretty sure both believer and non-believers ultimately want peace. Now this is not an attack on your beliefs, Hell in the long run either of us might be right, but you really don't believe an entire nation, that was built on freedom, is going to give up their beliefs do you?

 

[Random Argument Man]

For the sake of argument, you guys live in a "free" country. You beleive, say, think and do what ever you like. Isn't a little contradictory to banish one saying?

 

[Klagermeister]

Well, there's something I always smile at when an atheist debates with me.
If there isn't a God, then nothing happens to any of us.
If there is a God, then I go to Heaven and the atheist gets the downside either way.
Either way, I'm covered.

Now, back to the subject at hand...
Just like PETA isn't gonna end up banning meat...
The government isn't going to ban any use of the word God.

 

[theallmightybob]

That makes alot of sense, seeing as Religion should NEVER be used in politics
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Second.

That's how crusades start.

So you're going to tell politicians that they can't believe in God?

No, I think he is trying to say that someone in a seat of political power should not have the right to use that power to further there own religious beliefs or cut of the rights of some who opposes them. No one ever said you cant believe in god as far as I can see.


(EDIT) Regardless, I don't see how this who thing even maters to anyone. It needs to be taken in the right context. the use of the word god in then inaugural oath is by no means forcing anyone to believe or really do anything they don't want to.

 

[Vinculi]

That makes alot of sense, seeing as Religion should NEVER be used in politics
.

Second.

That's how crusades start.

So you're going to tell politicians that they can't believe in God?

No, I think he is trying to say that someone in a seat of political power should not have the right to use that power to further there own religious beliefs or cut of the rights of some who opposes them. No one ever said you cant believe in god as far as I can see.

Thankyou theallmightybob, that's exactly what i meant.

 

[Adam Jenson]

to the atheist in question. Get over yourself

oh yes sure lets not look at how atheists have been opressed until the 90s and we have been killed acused names and exiled i have been almost shuned by my town because im one of the few atheists

I could go on to say how this happens with every major philosophical movement but I'm sticking to my guns on this one.

but this a non philisofical movement hell i want another spanish inquizition or middle ages when hundreds of books were blacklisted because they didt have christian authors(or the authors were free thinkers and wrote aboute science)

whether its Atheism, Buddhism or tribal cannibalism it's still a philosophy i.e a way of thinking. I doubt another inquisition would help much either since I'm pretty sure both believer and non-believers ultimately want peace. Now this is not an attack on your beliefs, Hell in the long run either of us might be right, but you really don't believe an entire nation, that was built on freedom, is going to give up their beliefs do you?

(hey i edited it)

REALLY REALLY talking about freedom and having a major religon in the goverment YOU JUST CONTRIDICTED YOURSELF

...but religion and government ARE separated within America. I would also like ask my fellow escapists to correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't the bill of rights state a man can follow any religion?