"Athiesm"

[jasoncyrus]

Atheism is refusal of participating in any religion until they come with actual proof and not statements with nothing, but i really don't give a shit, if you religious people think i want saving from hell, get lost!

Don't give a shit about other people, you're going to "heaven" aren't you, so shut up and leave the rest of us alone.

Damn right! Who are you to deprive me of my chance to go to paradise! All the hookers, maniacs, and fun people go to hell!

Whats heaven go? Clouds, celebates, harps and frigid angels. -.-

Yeah, apparently George Carlin went to "hell".

Really? I am *so* going to hell then, i wanna meet him!

 

[hortez the champion of the frozen wastes]

*sigh*

Lets get this out of the way first. I am an atheist. Just like everyone else in this thread. I don't believe in god, think Christianity is bullshit, think the pope is an idiot, and frequently upset my christian friend. Hate me yet?

OF COURSE NOT! Because i have seen no one post on this thread saying that they are christian and that we are all crazy fucks. Seriously who are you arguing at?

EDIT: actually some atheists are against bashing other religions, so I guess its an argument between anti-theists and atheists (thank you to the person who first posted that word, you are now number 4 on my hero list).

 

[nikosuave]

I just call myself an atheist because Agnostic lacks a certain potency, but I am an agnostic officially.

 

[GenHellspawn]

While you might say rabbits that lay eggs made of chocolate could exist, I'd be a fair assertion to say that they don't.

Right, but would the chocolate eggs think that? On that note, what evidence can you bring, other than speculation, that states that this is a fair assertion at all. I mean, do you know that the sun will rise and set? No, you simply assume that the factors that lead to the sun's rising and setting will take place on that day. Likewise, you do not know that the Easter bunny does not exist, but you rather assume that the factors of existence could not lead to such a creation. Therefore, wether you say it does or does not exist, you are merely speculating.

 

[Epifols]

this will not end well.

I hope that he's got some flame proof armor.

All of you who are posting about the "incoming flame war" are just a bunch of spammers who are as good as the trolling flamers! Now stop it and either participate in the thread or don't post anything at all.

Back on topic, I think that the difference which OP pointed out is so small that it can actually be used both ways. Even if atheists say they doubt the existence of God, I can see a difference between that an an agnostic. There indeed might be a gray area, but in the end what really matters is the context and how the person is explaining themselves. As someone said, this is just splitting hairs, and what matters is what else you say.

 

[lord667]

plus you spelled atheism wrong.

You noticed

Atheism is an oddly spelt word.

A rule in english spelling is " i before e except after soft c"

I think that's how it goes anyway.

But yeah, Atheism doesn't follow that rule.

It's quite odd.

It's a really silly rule. Protein doesn't follow it either. And neither does neither

I think it's because the "e" and "i" are both pronounced separately. It's A-the-ism, not a-thee-sm. That wouldn't explain "protein", though.

 

[DigitalSushi]

plus you spelled atheism wrong.

You noticed

Atheism is an oddly spelt word.

A rule in english spelling is " i before e except after soft c"

I think that's how it goes anyway.

But yeah, Atheism doesn't follow that rule.

It's quite odd.

It's a really silly rule. Protein doesn't follow it either. And neither does neither

I love the escapist, where on any other site this relegious thread would turn into relegion flaming with many hurt, here on the Escapist it becomes lessons in grammar.

You guys rock.

 

[Cliff_m85]

Agnosticism is the answer of "Do we know". Atheism is the answer of "Do we believe".

Answering the question of do you believe with agnosticism is like answering the question of "Do you like country music" with the answer of "The radio isn't on".

 

[The_Prophet]

NO, NO MORE! ENOUGH! STOP WITH THE FUCKING RELIGION THREADS!!

Oi, I ranted on it and only a few people gave two shits.

 

[Del-Toro]

I agree with you 100 percent, there is nothing wrong with having a different belief as long as you aren't going around obsessively defaming others purely based on their beliefs. People who enjoy starting what they think is some ground breaking piece of insight with "In religion" are particularly guilty of this. Theistic claims that atheism is becoming dogmatic may be the pot calling the kettle black but it's not totally off the mark. Of course atheist dogma is not nearly as well developed as some theistic sources, but then again secular organizations have produced dogma as well (Fascism is anti-religious, distracts from the leader, but still heavily dogmatic). On that same coin, not all religions are like the abrahamic faiths (Shinto frowns on enforcement of belief, it's unharmonious) so there are two sides to every coin. It is such with Atheism. Those who are scientifically minded may take on atheism as their belief but nothing else, their studies having made it hard for them to buy into anything else. It's likely not a militant or heavily held belief for them, and if something were to prove otherwise, then they would convert. Then there are the 14 year olds who watch some shitty video by some basement dwelling loser, and then go around saying how everyone who disagree's with them is bad. I was the latter for awhile, I got better once I realized how much of a douchebag I sounded like, that's right, experienced insider talking, I'm a recovering militant Atheist. So yes, the original poster has a good head on his shoulders and has told the truth.

 

[LewsTherin]

Dearie me, what have we here?

plus you spelled atheism wrong.

You noticed

Atheism is an oddly spelt word.

A rule in english spelling is " i before e except after soft c"

I think that's how it goes anyway.

But yeah, Atheism doesn't follow that rule.

It's quite odd.

It's a really silly rule. Protein doesn't follow it either. And neither does neither

I love the escapist, where on any other site this relegious thread would turn into relegion flaming with many hurt, here on the Escapist it becomes lessons in grammar.

You guys rock.

Just wait.

 

[Bluebacon]

plus you spelled atheism wrong.

You noticed

Atheism is an oddly spelt word.

A rule in english spelling is " i before e except after soft c"

I think that's how it goes anyway.

But yeah, Atheism doesn't follow that rule.

It's quite odd.

It's a really silly rule. Protein doesn't follow it either. And neither does neither

I love the escapist, where on any other site this relegious thread would turn into relegion flaming with many hurt, here on the Escapist it becomes lessons in grammar.

You guys rock.

Grammar IS religion, fool! Well, it seems to be here anyway.

And I bring before the light that shall show us the way! The way to find out which words have I before E, even after C, or not, or anything! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_before_e_except_after_c

Ps. I'm so, so tired it's not even funny.

 

[SilentHunter7]

I'm a proper atheist and yea, religion bashing sucks. But people have to attack something whether it's Halo, Religion or some other crap.

It's nice to know that there's people out there who still respect others beliefs. I'm a Christian, and I think telling good people that they will go to hell for not praying the same way I do (or at all) is egotistical, self-centered, counter-productive to Christianity as a whole, and is counter-intuitive to Christ's message of tolerance.

 

[electric_warrior]

I'll stop attacking baby raping priest's about their religion when they stop attacking me for not having one.

have you ever been personally attacked by a baby raping priest? I'm willing to bet the answer is no. an for that matter i'm willing to bet that very few people ever have been; most christians are as mild mannered and accepting as anyone else you'll ever meet. the most dogmatic asshole i ever met was an atheist and i have never met a christian who is belligerent on the matter and it seems from my perspective (coming from a school so christian it actually has a large christian association and so anti-religious that a teacher nearly got sacked for making us pray in school) that the atheists are worse than the theists by far because they're so fucking smug about it, so stubborn and so closed minded. how about we all just try to get along and accept that no one will ever know (in the correct technical definition) and that pretending to know is the most stupid and ignorant thing ever?
also, most religious people aren't catholic priests, and most catholic priests don't rape little children so you tone is utterly uncalled for.

 

[ThrobbingEgo]

While you might say rabbits that lay eggs made of chocolate could exist, I'd be a fair assertion to say that they don't.

Right, but would the chocolate eggs think that? On that note, what evidence can you bring, other than speculation, that states that this is a fair assertion at all. I mean, do you know that the sun will rise and set? No, you simply assume that the factors that lead to the sun's rising and setting will take place on that day. Likewise, you do not know that the Easter bunny does not exist, but you rather assume that the factors of existence could not lead to such a creation. Therefore, wether you say it does or does not exist, you are merely speculating.

You must live in an interesting world. With what I know about the world I live in, I can be quite comfortable being absolutely certain that we don't have supernatural agents that magick chocolate laying hen rabbits into existence.

These "what if" scenarios are neither practical nor convincing.

Edit: We are having the best discussion on this thread by far.

 

[ThrobbingEgo]

Agnosticism is the answer of "Do we know". Atheism is the answer of "Do we believe".

Answering the question of do you believe with agnosticism is like answering the question of "Do you like country music" with the answer of "The radio isn't on".

I picture it more like, "I haven't heard enough music, in general, to decide whether I like country music or not."

 

[101194]

This is what comes out when people are misinformed about Athesim, Do I know for a fact there isn't a pony butsexing me right now? I'm 99.99% sure there isn't one, But you know I feel the same way about god, Lack of proof and Scietific Research=Orginized Religous people. Plus I'm a Secularist, Not an Atheist, But I guess you could say I'm an Atheist, But Atheisim doesn't carry and real thought.

 

[Jimmyjames]

Fuck Atheism. Fuck the religious.

Most of all, fuck people that ***** about it non-stop.

 

[GenHellspawn]

These "what if" scenarios are neither practical nor convincing.

But what is practical? If it is an idea that promotes your survival as an entity, then practical is merely the belief that it is better to be alive than dead.

 

[Liberaliterr]

To me atheism is simply not following a pre-defined religion whilst not believing in a god.