Attraction explained: how to talk to women

[Labyrinth]

Men go for looks, women go for status.

You're being sexist. Very sexist. Against both men and women, not to mention exceptionally heteronormative. The above is the most succinct part of your sexism and sums it up nicely. Men are creatures who think with their penises, leaping at the best eye-candy with every opportunity. Women, ever obsessed with hierarchy, chase, or perhaps fight amongst themselves for, or make themselves look how they think will appeal to, those men who possess the most power. See the stereotype of the gold-digger trophy wife to the rich man.

I can't say I agree. Sexual attraction may be reduced to appearance as an initial point, but that is not specific to men, heterosexual or otherwise and leaves out all kinds of factors. Let's take the attractive factors of intelligence as one. Emotional attraction and love are so much more complex and simply cannot be summed up with "Men like looks, women like status". Show me one example of a fulfilling relationship based around that.

Your statements about 'how to talk to women' would leave any female I know unimpressed, myself included. In attempting to make a formula out of it, make it a competition to get the prize of sex, you objectify and dehumanise women while degrading the men who don't behave that way. I don't recommend that practice.

 

[Bellvedere]

Yo

To start, lets return to that old assumption. When a guy walks about to a girl and starts asking them personal questions, he is hitting on her. So how do you walk up to a girl a start flirting without that assumption coming up and shitting on everything? We do this:

ME: Hey, I gotta go in a second but, can I get your opinion on something? (Body language turned away as if i was just walking by)
GIRL: Okay.
ME: It's very important, a matter of life and death, in fact. I want you to think very hard about this. (said seriously, but not in a boring way; as if what you say is of dire importance to the main character in a comedic sketch)
GIRL: alright...
ME: Do you floss before or after you brush? I've been trying to figure it out for days! (Said in a joking way, as you would say the punchline of a joke [don't laugh])
GIRL: Laughs.

You are wrong. This is clearly someone hitting on you.

If someone did this to me "GIRL" would be saying no her first line.

It's actually not that weird to make casual conversation with someone...

What you don't want to do is make it into some huge deal talking to a girl. It pretty much screams "you can do better than me!!". Then girl thinks I can't actually imagine this guy being normal and not completely awkward to be around.

No matter what you do everyone's going to be rejected at some point. What you do right for one girl isn't going to work on every girl. Not everyone is looking to pick up, just because she's your type doesn't mean you are her type, she might really have a boyfriend.

Also don't underestimate the look thing. Looks count. Apparently so does smell, like not in cologne smell but natural smell. People are weird.

Chances are you'll likely fall in love and have someone love you back at some point in your life. If not you can always get a cat.

 

[BonsaiK]

Just popping my head in here to say that I do not endorse the content of the OP. Carry on discussing, everyone.

 

[Ultrajoe]

I can't decide what part of this post annoys me more, that it's morally and factually laughable or that it's one of the better written things here. Why must a capable typist linger on such utter tripe?

 

[MarcFirewing]

Is this really a fucking thread trying to understand relationships?

Really?

Attempting to understand the human mind is like dividing by zero, do it and you blow the world to hell. Here's the answer to relationships:

Be yourself.

If the girl/guy doesn't like you and you get your heart then just move on. There's a match for everyone somewhere. Attempting to understand it is futile and wastes everyone's time.

 

[MarcFirewing]

Here's the answer to relationships:

Be yourself.

If the girl/guy doesn't like you and you get your heart then just move on. There's a match for everyone somewhere.

I'm sorry, but that advice doesn't work either. :-D

The bolded part isn't true, and I would offer myself up as proof.

It's not advice. Why be someone other than yourself? It's just common sense lol.

 

[Smooth Operator]

IN OTHER WORDS,
Wisdom from a normal, non socially crippled person who actually talks to people of the opposite gender:

People are not rational creatures. They are not computers, they do not operate by logical constraints, they are emotional, feeling above thinking. If you actually try to talk to someone by "the rules" or something, you're going to look like an idiot. If you analise people by these terrible generalizations, chances are you haven't actually been around many people.

Actually people are machines, just like computers, only organic ones with an extreme degree of complexity we have not yet come to fully understand.
Emotions are nothing more then logic states, triggered by events causing us to divert our operation as the state dictates, on first impression it doesn't seem like a logical process, but take a step back from individuals and you will notice people all work in a similar way.
Let's say a beautiful woman steps into a bar, all the men will look at her, not because they went to the same "what is a beautiful woman" class, but simply because their brain is working in similar patterns.

 

[Stasisesque]

Woah. This is the most in depth troll I've ever had the pleasure of encountering.

 

[MarcFirewing]

Here's the answer to relationships:

Be yourself.

If the girl/guy doesn't like you and you get your heart then just move on. There's a match for everyone somewhere.

I'm sorry, but that advice doesn't work either. :-D

The bolded part isn't true, and I would offer myself up as proof.

It's not advice. Why be someone other than yourself? It's just common sense lol.

Because "myself" is a pretentious, pedantic, arrogant, lazy, selfish oaf with a short temper, an asymmetrical face and no discernible personality.

And "myself" is a arrogant, bastard, with an asshole attitude, cold hearted, lazy ass, harsh joking douchebag that somehow managed to get three relationships with all of them saying I'm perfect. But hey, weirdest shit happens xD

 

[Cyan.]

If you women are all so complex and hard to understand, why can i easily manipulate you all, 100% of the time, with the same bullshit tricks?

People are animals. Meat computers. Nothing more. Brains work and respond in particular ways and respond to particular stimulus. Manipulating people is easy for those of us lucky enough to have an..... outside?.... perspective.

Yes, i am a self righteous, arrogant, falsley charming, manipulative and evil clinically diagnosed sociopath - But if you women are so awesome why havent you caught onto my tricks yet?

25 years and counting bitches.

 

[minarri]

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People are not rational creatures. They are not computers, they do not operate by logical constraints, they are emotional, feeling above thinking. If you actually try to talk to someone by "the rules" or something, you're going to look like an idiot. If you analise people by these terrible generalizations, chances are you haven't actually been around many people.

How this pertains to this thread: If you want to embark on the momentous task of talking to one of those "women" that you've heard exist, act natural and when i say act natural, don't act, acting is a mistake. Don't think about it, just have a normal fucking conversation with them.

I was afraid I'd need to swoop in but I'm glad someone understands.

I swear the next time someone tells me I'm only attracted to men for their status and confidence I might just punch them to show them what that confidence gets them.

 

[Stasisesque]

If you women are all so complex and hard to understand, why can i easily manipulate you all, 100% of the time, with the same bullshit tricks?

People are animals. Meat computers. Nothing more. Brains work and respond in particular ways and respond to particular stimulus. Manipulating people is easy for those of us lucky enough to have an..... outside?.... perspective.

Yes, i am a self righteous, arrogant, falsley charming, manipulative and evil clinically diagnosed sociopath - But if you women are so awesome why havent you caught onto my tricks yet?

25 years and counting bitches.

Because you're 25 years old.

At that age, you have the pick of the bunch. You can go for the lonely, older woman with faked responsibility, charming sweet-talk and unrealistic promises; or, you can go for the silly 18 year old with either a string of ego-boosting compliments, or well formed but still false opinions on serious issues like the environment, or battery hens or whatever the hell the "in issues" are at the moment.

Anyone CAN do it, just most choose not to or see past the emptiness of it. However, as a diagnosed sociopath the entire issue is moot for you.

 

[Kevlar Eater]

I hate when people say things like "Be yourself" or "Act natural". It's as oxymoronic as Christian Science.

People are either interested in you or they aren't (looks and confidence do play some part, though).

 

[zarsu]

Holy fuck.

Okay. If you spend this much time analising "relationships", and "how to talk to women", and you actually buy into this stuff, you are a sad, sad person, and you probably consider a brief mundane conversation with a "girl" to make your day. (E.X. You: Tuesdays Coming, did you bring your coat? Her: yes.)

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IN OTHER WORDS,
Wisdom from a normal, non socially crippled person who actually talks to people of the opposite gender:

People are not rational creatures. They are not computers, they do not operate by logical constraints, they are emotional, feeling above thinking. If you actually try to talk to someone by "the rules" or something, you're going to look like an idiot. If you analise people by these terrible generalizations, chances are you haven't actually been around many people.

How this pertains to this thread: If you want to embark on the momentous task of talking to one of those "women" that you've heard exist, act natural and when i say act natural, don't act, acting is a mistake. Don't think about it, just have a normal fucking conversation with them.

Couldn't have said it better myself.