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Celtic Cynic

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I computers where taught properly in schools they could show kids how to avoid sites containing innapropriate material. I blame the parents for not explaining things to there kids. Education works better than regulation.
 

TriggerHappyAngel

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when i have a child and it turn 10, I'm sending him straight to 4Chan ... he has to learn what's out there (and after that, it's off to the encyclopedia dramatica offended page with him!) :]
 

Schneizel

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Celtic Cynic said:
I computers where taught properly in schools they could show kids how to avoid sites containing innapropriate material. I blame the parents for not explaining things to there kids. Education works better than regulation.
Agreed. But being serious, no matter how many competent parents there are, there are lazy parents who want the world to bend over backwards to raise their children instead of taking responsibility themselves. That's why I believe that instead of forcing the internet to change, we should prevent children using it.
 

Oktanas

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It's only parent's fault if the kids get violant video games or see porn on the net.

@ren3004>>> Few years back there was no internet and schools did well whit out it.
 

Urgh76

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Well MAYBE the parents should be doing a better job themselves instead of blaming technology!

[HEADING=1]MAYBE[/HEADING]
 

Schneizel

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Urgh76 said:
Well MAYBE the parents should be doing a better job themselves instead of blaming technology!

[HEADING=1]MAYBE[/HEADING]
Self-evident. But tell that to one of said incompetent parents and watch as her outraged support group throws a tantrum and runs to the nearest tabloid to report how paedophiles accused them of being bad parents.

Is there anyone here who actually has children? Interested in hearing from parents who're also fans of the internet.
 

Vhite

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Schneizel said:
Vhite said:
I really dont like 18 as age of maturity, there should be test or something to find out if person is mature enough because some 15 year old can be more mature then 20 year old.
I agree age is largely irrelevant when discussing intelligence. I don't like the idea of testing for "maturity" though because it implies there is a correct way you must learn to think like before you stop being a child.
Its probably only matter of what kind of test it would be but(1x) I havent really overthought it but(2x) it surely would not by anything simple but(3x) basicly you are right.
 

Cyberius

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Vhite said:
I really dont like 18 as age of maturity, there should be test or something to find out if person is mature enough because some 15 year old can be more mature then 20 year old.
The key words in that sentence are "CAN BE". Yeah, some 15 year olds CAN BE more mature then 20 year olds, but most of them probably aren't.
 

The Great Zegrool

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AHAHahhaha, oh, that was good. Wait, you were serious!

Jesus...

Parents have to take responsibility for what their child does, not the government. Don't promote a nanny state.
 

aPod

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Onyx Oblivion said:
These people can't seem to understand that...IT'S NOT THE WORLD'S JOB TO RAISE YOUR CHILDREN AND PROTECT THEIR INNOCENCE. Do it yourself. Be a less shitty parent. Watch what your kids are doing when online!
If this isn't the answer i don't know what could be.

"My child won't listen though *sobs*" - Well, obviously the battle is already lost... i could control your kid but i demand full tazer rights.

Lets be honest though, i was a good kid... but i saw my first porno when i was 8 on HBO at a hotel in Mexico... and didn't use the internet for porn till i was 12 and thats only because i was scared that my pops would catch me... it took me that long to make my viewing nearly invisible.

Lets ban hotels for everyone under 18 as well...

Fuck, while we are at it lets ban adults too... cause lets face it... adults are the ones who fuck them up the most anyways.
 

Sol_HSA

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Schneizel said:
OH NOES CHILD GROOMING is often bitched by people who want to ruin the internet. So rather than fuck it up for everyone, why not ban under-18s?
Better yet, let's ban the internet from everyone under 35. On the other hand, that would include the majority of escapist audience..
 

Schneizel

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Dnaloiram said:
Parents have to take responsibility for what their child does, not the government. Don't promote a nanny state.
My intention was the opposite. I want governments to keep their nanny state ways off the internet, not add to it. Governments are constantly reducing freedom on the internet in the name of "protecting" children. To me that seems idiotic: we don't ban strip clubs to "protect" children, we ban children from strip clubs. The same principle should apply on the internet.

Either way - banning children or policing a child-infested internet - the government has a huge task. Either way, the concept of freedom on the internet will change.

The question is which is worse: children on the internet causing governments to ruin the internet, or keeping the internet free by banning children until they reach a certain age - after which they get to enjoy it just as we do.
 

tinkyyy

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Onyx Oblivion said:
Danzaivar said:
TlK lYk DiZ n JsT rYt Cr4p.
The only words I could read without my brain exploding were "this" "and" "just" and "crap".
I couldn't work it out for a minute either. But I think it says "talk like this and write crap".

People who write like that make the internet a harder place to understand :(
 

foodmaniac

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The internet has been and will continue to be a revolution in how society operates, whether we like it or not. People under the age of 18 learn to use the internet as the grow up so that they can better adapt to the frequently changing workplace. Internet censorship is a joke in face of reality. Things like pornography exist, and banning it won't change a thing. It will still exist, and people will still be able to get access to it illegally.
 

Vampire cat

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Ren3004 said:
Because kids under 18 also need the Internet for school work?
Although I agree with not banning under 18's from the internet, I don't see how this argument is valid. I did all my homework without PC, so did my classmates and billions of people before us and before the internet. Acording to research the average person even did their school work better a few years ago, than when PC truly got introduced to education. You don't need the PC. It may be a great tool at times, but you will always find other ways to get your information. Maybe the Librarys would be resurected? =p

Still tho, don't ban under 18's. This is on the parents and developers, no one else. Only a very small bit on the developers too, mostly on parents having no idea on how to take care of their kids now adays!
 

RaphaelsRedemption

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Education is the only way to go. Educate kids that on the internet, as in real life, some places have people that will try to make them do or see things that will make them feel uncomfortable and that they can always walk away from those situations. Honestly, kids can learn patterns of behaviour. Its just that people would rather go the easy route by banning either the offending places/people or the offended people (under the pretense of "protecting" them). Why teach a child to act maturely and responsibly in an environment where they have more control than in the real world, when we can just ban them from more and more sites? The internet could be a great tool to teach children how to react to threats, bullies and creeps, because, at the end of the day, they can walk away from the internet. They have the security of the "off" button. But no, we ban them. And we say it's because we care?