Barack Obama - so much for change

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[link]http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8052676.stm[/link]

So it turns out that Barack Obama, who proclaimed that under him, the US was entering a new era of respect for human rights has now decided to continue with military trials for those illegally detained at Guantanamo Bay.

While he is giving them more rights and denying evidence obtained through abuse and torture and refusing to allow heresay evidence if he wants to respect their human rights then they must be tried in a regular court of law.

Trying someone in a military court is a way of avoiding their right to justice. This seems like 'met the new boss, same as the old boss'.

The man who promised hope is now shattering the grandeur ideal of him as a true human rights supporter. It seems as though what he's done is the same old politics we see everywhere; blame the last guy for everything, pretend to repeal their ideas, implement those same ideas in a different way.

i dont mean to start a flame war or anything but a human rights supporter is pro lif; against abortion and against stem cells from babies. you can get the same thing from adults. so he is no human rights supporter.

on topic: torture should be used if it keeps us safe from terrorist attacks.

Barack Obama is pro-life and he does agree with human rights to a large extent. Religion does not require that all sins become laws. Otherwise lying should be illegal, eating meat on a friday should be illegal, eating pork should be illegal, being rich should be illegal, being fat should be illegal, working on the sabbath should be illegal, denying god should be illegal, dishonouring your parents should be illegal and so on and so on.

Stem cells do not come from babies, they come from embryos.

To what extent should torture be used? Should everyone be tortured for all their secrets so we know what EVERYONE is doing?

Tell me if you are pro-life and presumably a Christian, how do you justify torture, it's a sin, under your own reasoning it should be illegal.

 

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I'm sorry...but you're analysis of this is completely off base (probably due to political/social prejudice)...it took 5 seasons, but Trey and Matt have become excellent satirists...and I must acknowledge good satire when I see it (there is way too many self proclaimed yet single sided satirists making money in this country).

Don't think the only sides out there are republican vs. democrat or conservative vs. liberal.

And I have to ask: exactly what satire is going on here? What point do you think they were making?

Satire- the comical ability to get an (alright, I admit it) educated audience to laugh so hard at the other perspective, that when it comes your turn to get roasted, you can't help but laugh at your own deficiencies as well.
So sorry, but South Park is not only playing the 4 angles you have listed...in one episode alone, you will probably see one or more of the following-

1) The overbearing parent: Kyle's Mom
2) The over-indulgent parent: Cartman's Mom
3) The ignorant parent: Kenny's Mom
3a) The parent living vicariously through their child-
4) The often hypocritical parent: Stan's Dad, Kyle's Dad (in the cheesing episode)
5) Comical portrayals of the world religions (Faith +1, Passion of the Jew, Bin Laden Family Guy episode)...
6) ...not to mention the Scientology Episode in which the show went full circle, (Issac Hayes quit the show over this, obviously he had no problem when the show parodied other organized religions)-
7) Comical portrayals of the way science has it's head stuck up it's collective ass (Hybrid car/Perfect storm episode, Spontaneous combustion, the cure for AIDS simply being an injection of lots and lots of melted down currency- that one was absolutely genius)
8) Political correctness/ Race relations/Racial Stereotypes (Jesse Jackson episode/Chinpokomon/Getting Gay with Kids episodes)
9) The inept stupidity of current fads (High School Musical, World of Warcraft, and Guitar Hero episodes)
10) And finally, the pic above which you are advocating against- it could have been ME putting up the word "WHEN" on the picture of Barack Obama (indicating impending doom and the loss of America as we know it), or it could have been YOU placing that word on the pic of Obama (indicating you were unsatisfied with the RATE of change, like most of the ignorant folk who voted for Obama and who thought he was going to bring their bills up to date the moment he was in office). WHO EXACTLY WAS IT?- THAT IS OPEN TO INTERPRETATION- satire in another form.

The list goes on and on...what you think is simply a crass, offensive paradigm is actually a very clever, very witty and satirical look at modern Americana, because for better or worse, that is who we are.

EDIT: SORRY FOR TAKING SO LONG TO RESPOND...wanted to make sure everything made sense.

 

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politics.
*snrk*