It doesn't matter because Killzone 3 looks better than this. Crysis and Killzone are on top of visuals for FPSs at least. Only thing the BFBC2 had over other shooters was the feeling from shooting the weapons or get hit by explosions but even then Killzone is just as satisfying to shoot your weapons and get kills as BF.The Lost Big Boss said:Are you crazy?!!oplinger said:...That looks kinda average. Darn, I was hoping for eye candy.
Oh well, 64 players is nice. *blinks at info* oh they'll say fuck too!
So now I'm kinda uninterested in this game
Do you see the lighting in this? You see the amount of tessellation? No jagged lines, nothing. This is rivals crysis 2 in terms of visuals. This is what we need for PC gaming, getting rid of DX9 and using new tech to its fullest.
I know that, but we have yet to know the amount of class customization in the game.Midnight Crossroads said:
The smoke can be argued, sense it is a still. Yes, the shadow on the wall in pic one isn't that high res, along with the razor sharp shadow. But look at the lighting on the soldiers on both pics, thats what my eye was drawn to. I really don't see any flat textures, besides that wall. But just look at the vistas, the backdrop. That looks fucking sick. And the shadows of the soldiers in pic 3 are not bad at all, they look good.oplinger said:If I may, in the first image, I am drawn to the 2D sprite smoke, as opposed to volumetric. The low resolution shadow map on the hole in the wall and the razor sharp shadow on the building in the distance. In the second image, I'm seeing a relatively flat texture, coupled with the afformentioned low resolution shadow maps on the soldiers. I don't think I even want to mention the wall.The Lost Big Boss said:Are you crazy?!!oplinger said:...That looks kinda average. Darn, I was hoping for eye candy.
Oh well, 64 players is nice. *blinks at info* oh they'll say fuck too!
So now I'm kinda uninterested in this game
Do you see the lighting in this? You see the amount of tessellation? No jagged lines, nothing. This is rivals crysis 2 in terms of visuals. This is what we need for PC gaming, getting rid of DX9 and using new tech to its fullest.
It's not as impressive as the Cryengine was. It looks generic. It's not pushing anything visually. Not in stills, in the info you posted they're focusing on animation. It could also just be game informer doesn't have the tech to run it at max. But I am not impressed. Jaggies are eliminated by AA not tessellation, however that hole in the wall -does- look quite nice. So ...1 point to BF3.
I think medics using lmgs was one of the smartest things anyone has done with a class based multi fps game in awhile, sure it can be annoying when you get a squad of 4 medics running around keeping each other revived and shooting the fuck out of you but thats why the assualt class has grenade launchersMidnight Crossroads said:
The smoke cannot be argued unless that is multiple explosions. Volumetric smoke would be a singular cloud, not a jumbled mess of circles that are smoke colored. The lighting is also fine on the soldiers, it's the shadow maps I was pointing out, they are not uniform, meaning they are low resolution. The shadows could be argued that they are wrinkles in the fabric, but we know better than that, also they don't coincide to the wrinkles in the textures.The Lost Big Boss said:
) looks more like they're showing off lighting changes, and how they dynamically happen. Which is nice, but they don't seem to have improved the lighting in the stills from any other games we've seen.
Yea, just remember this game isn't going to support DX9, you need a card that supports DX10/DX11. XP can't be used.Luke5515 said:
Supposedly, the game is going to be more PC-oriented, meaning the game will designed for PC as opposed being a unoptimized console port. Still going to be quite resource-intensive though I assume from past experiences with Battlefield games.Luke5515 said:
How about this, when we get some gameplay from E3, lets talk thenoplinger said:The smoke cannot be argued unless that is multiple explosions. Volumetric smoke would be a singular cloud, not a jumbled mess of circles that are smoke colored. The lighting is also fine on the soldiers, it's the shadow maps I was pointing out, they are not uniform, meaning they are low resolution. The shadows could be argued that they are wrinkles in the fabric, but we know better than that, also they don't coincide to the wrinkles in the textures.The Lost Big Boss said:
To point out the flat textures I will point you to the soldiers glove in the second image for a bright shining example. The armor is pretty bad as well, but seriously what is up with that wall? >.>
Also the video, without commentary (I'm not an expert on lighting either, so I can't just tell
I'm not saying the game doesn't look nice. I'm just saying it looks average right now. It either can't be shown properly in scans, isn't up to the visual brilliance they want, or hardware limitations or...well lots of other things. It really doesn't seem to be pushing anything. We'll wait and see though, I have no doubt it'll shape up to look better.
Ill give you that, that wall looks like shit. BUT THAT IS ALL YOU WILL GET FROM ME!oplinger said:NO! we have to talk about that wall! IT BREAKS REALITY!The Lost Big Boss said:How about this, when we get some gameplay from E3, lets talk then
I'd rather see LMGs in the hands of a Support class, and SMGs in the hands of Spec Ops.Worgen said:
