Bayonetta 2 announced as Wii U exclusive, console gamers pissed.
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I'm fine with exclusives, but I really don't like exclusive sequels from a multi-platform game. That's just frustrating for fans of the games. I don't particularly care in this particular case, but I am annoyed on principle, mainly because of its parallel in the Monster Hunter series. Monster Hunter is one of my favourite franchises, ever, and I haven't seen a new MH game that I can play for years. I still almost break something whenever I hear the theme song. It's just a dick move to anyone who bought Bayonetta on another system.
NOT TO MENTION...It wasn't on the damn Wii. Which means their playerbase is people who are willing to jump in at the second installment, people who are going to choose Wii U over Xbox 720 and PS4, and people who have the Wii U as well as their other system(s). Not the best move it would seem, but there are cleverer people than me who apparently think it is.
Although it was saved by Nintendo. So I suppose they can do whatever they want with it. Just have fun with your sales figures.
I'm fine with exclusives, but I really don't like exclusive sequels from a multi-platform game. That's just frustrating for fans of the games. I don't particularly care in this particular case, but I am annoyed on principle, mainly because of its parallel in the Monster Hunter series. Monster Hunter is one of my favourite franchises, ever, and I haven't seen a new MH game that I can play for years. I still almost break something whenever I hear the theme song. It's just a dick move to anyone who bought Bayonetta on another system.
NOT TO MENTION...It wasn't on the damn Wii. Which means their playerbase is people who are willing to jump in at the second installment, people who are going to choose Wii U over Xbox 720 and PS4, and people who have the Wii U as well as their other system(s). Not the best move it would seem, but there are cleverer people than me who apparently think it is.
Although it was saved by Nintendo. So I suppose they can do whatever they want with it. Just have fun with your sales figures.
Final Fantasy 6 wasn't on a Sony console, but 7 was Playstation exclusive. Mass Effect wasn't on PS3, but Mass Effect 2 sure was. Jet Grind Radio was only on Dreamcast! Why was Jet Set Radio Future only on Xbox?!ToastiestZombie said:
That said, there's plenty of precedence for this, and like I said earlier in the topic, I'm just counting down the days until I can happily give Nintendo my money. Not much of the launch window interests me, but Bayonetta 2, THAT will be worth buying the console alone.
After reading so many posts, it hurts me to call myself a gamer when there are so many people out there who call themselves gamers and then complain and moan when Nintendo decides to take up a game a make it an exclusive but Microsoft and Sony have done this as well to a much higher degree.
What makes gamers think that just because they are fans that they can dictate to companies of what is right and wrong? Maybe if everyone was telling the company to do something, then they would do it, but as long as so many people sway back and forth between the Xbox and PS then the company isn't going to listen as long as the other picks up the slack, cause this method seems to do a damn well good job of keeping the fanboys and girls quiet, but when Nintendo does something like this and tries to make something that the fans don't expect, then all you hear is "GAH! I hate Nintendo now and forever! You won't see me picking up Nintendo again because they didn't do exactly as I wanted them to do!"
News flash! A company can't be bothered to follow the whims of a very small group, it has to meet the demands of the majority and as long as the small groups try to push to get their way, then the majority and even the company will have to ignore them.
To me, this is about the same as people rushing to buy the next COD or Halo FPS clone or Madden photocopies and say it's the next best thing but when something unexpected happens like Nintendo taking up an exclusive from a company that previously produced for others or that a company will try to produce an experimental title, people get all butt hurt. It's like all of the entitled gamers out there demand mediocrity and repetition rather than innovation or change, see it's backwards thinking that keeps all of the good stuff from coming out sooner.
And to all of the Microsoft and Sony fans out there: when their newest consoles came out, how were they advertised? Xbox 360 was rushed, tried to upsale a few new games and confidently advertised the whole input of a dvd player while PS3 did the same except with a bluray player, and what happened? The consoles were rushed out to try and climb the wave that Nintendo was already riding even without the addition of a movie player, Microsoft had shoddy workmanship and constantly had to be shipped back because of the RRoD and the PS3 barely had anything to go for it and ended up making mediocre sales compared to everyone else, and yet, people still defend the Xbox because of a massive multiplayer function and numerous cloned FPS games that now for some reason have to incorporate zombies into everything and PS3 that puts out pretty much the same games that Microsoft does with very few if not rare exclusives that are actually any good, and all of this is coming from someone who has all 3 consoles, mostly for each consoles exclusives.
For those who can't be bothered to read long text: Stop hating a company for doing something different then defend a company that barely does anything outside of producing the same game with updated graphics each year.
What makes gamers think that just because they are fans that they can dictate to companies of what is right and wrong? Maybe if everyone was telling the company to do something, then they would do it, but as long as so many people sway back and forth between the Xbox and PS then the company isn't going to listen as long as the other picks up the slack, cause this method seems to do a damn well good job of keeping the fanboys and girls quiet, but when Nintendo does something like this and tries to make something that the fans don't expect, then all you hear is "GAH! I hate Nintendo now and forever! You won't see me picking up Nintendo again because they didn't do exactly as I wanted them to do!"
News flash! A company can't be bothered to follow the whims of a very small group, it has to meet the demands of the majority and as long as the small groups try to push to get their way, then the majority and even the company will have to ignore them.
To me, this is about the same as people rushing to buy the next COD or Halo FPS clone or Madden photocopies and say it's the next best thing but when something unexpected happens like Nintendo taking up an exclusive from a company that previously produced for others or that a company will try to produce an experimental title, people get all butt hurt. It's like all of the entitled gamers out there demand mediocrity and repetition rather than innovation or change, see it's backwards thinking that keeps all of the good stuff from coming out sooner.
And to all of the Microsoft and Sony fans out there: when their newest consoles came out, how were they advertised? Xbox 360 was rushed, tried to upsale a few new games and confidently advertised the whole input of a dvd player while PS3 did the same except with a bluray player, and what happened? The consoles were rushed out to try and climb the wave that Nintendo was already riding even without the addition of a movie player, Microsoft had shoddy workmanship and constantly had to be shipped back because of the RRoD and the PS3 barely had anything to go for it and ended up making mediocre sales compared to everyone else, and yet, people still defend the Xbox because of a massive multiplayer function and numerous cloned FPS games that now for some reason have to incorporate zombies into everything and PS3 that puts out pretty much the same games that Microsoft does with very few if not rare exclusives that are actually any good, and all of this is coming from someone who has all 3 consoles, mostly for each consoles exclusives.
For those who can't be bothered to read long text: Stop hating a company for doing something different then defend a company that barely does anything outside of producing the same game with updated graphics each year.
I think I fall into the 'somewhat annoyed' state of mind.
I enjoyed the first Bayonetta. Its one of the very few titles I still play long after I platted it, and I would welcome a sequel.
But on Wii-U? Uh, no. Nothing I have seen or read about the Wii-U makes me even consider buying one. And as much as I enjoyed Bayonetta, it would take a hell of a lot more that its sequel to get me to buy anything from Nintendo again.
Not even if a new TimeSplitters was Nintendo exclusive.
Thats right, I said it.
I enjoyed the first Bayonetta. Its one of the very few titles I still play long after I platted it, and I would welcome a sequel.
But on Wii-U? Uh, no. Nothing I have seen or read about the Wii-U makes me even consider buying one. And as much as I enjoyed Bayonetta, it would take a hell of a lot more that its sequel to get me to buy anything from Nintendo again.
Not even if a new TimeSplitters was Nintendo exclusive.
Thats right, I said it.
You assume I've got previous experience with the Wii. Actually I have no experience with the Wii because it didn't appeal to me. Just like the Wii U didn't appeal to me. Wrong counter: 1anuhsur odnet said:
You assume that I hate Nintendo. I don't hate Nintendo. Just not a fan of the Wii and not that interested in the Wii U. Wrong counter: 2
You assume I don't love Bayonetta. I love Bayonetta. Wrong counter: 3
You think I have no business posting in this thread. Wrong counter: 4
You assume that something you're already wrong about bothers me. Wrong counter: 5
You assume I'm sad and little. Wrong counter: 6
Nope, no suicidal urges. Although I've often pondered about what can drive a person to suicide. Considering that last part was a question, I haven't added any marks to your wrong counter. Isn't this fun? ^_^
In all seriousness though. I'm more than willing to have a serious discussion about this as soon as you're willing to stop acting like such a fanboy.
I certainly didn't buy into Nintendo for its brawlers, I've been a fan since the NES and wasn't really into multiplayer games at all, I play video games to have fun and to be able to experience the creativity of others, and although I have Bayonetta, it was really just to see the apparent sexism that a certain youtuber tried to proclaim a few months agoanuhsur odnet said:
So I'd have to say you're wrong about me in your entire post unless of course you're point wasn't directed at me
that would be true if those who call themselves gamers don't buy the playstation or xbox because they can play dvds and bluraysNameIsRobertPaulson said:
and by the way, weren't videogames just considered gimmicks when they first came out? Wasn't everything gimmicky when they were first developed?
