Bayonetta is tasteless and immature. What do you think?

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Dogstile

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Cid SilverWing said:
Also it rips off Devil May Cry. Horrible.
Oh come on, any game with that fighting style is apparently "ripping off" devil may cry. If developers tried avoiding ripping off everything ever, we'd have far fewer games.

Now, with my little rant out the way, onto the topic!

Yeah, it was highly sexual and immature. Does that not seem funny to you? No? Shame, i thought it was a good laugh.
 

persona J

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japan arnt the only ones who make bad games with sex gimicks, x blades is an easy example and in my opinion everyone is able to express themselfs however they want so they dont have to keep it to themselfs if you dont like it keep yourself to yourself otherwise your just passing unnecessary judgement. people mostly complain about japan because they are people that like to mess with strange concepts and i think people are just scared of how much they don't care what you think.
 

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I hated it. It was like gargling liquid playboy magazines.

It felt dirty, sloppy, and everyother word they used to hook male video gamers. The sound track annoyed me, and once you learned the right combo's, you could blow through the game to easly.

I will never play it again. infact, im trying to forget i played it to began with.
 

Shadowfaze

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I like it. But not Rodin, fighting him is stupidly hard. Its good to see something different for a change, imo.
 

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Me thinks someone took the game too seriously. Its like the people that complain about The Expendables having no story. Its not supposed to have a story. Its just a testosterone spewing action flick. Bayonetta is a play on all the male main characters in games these days. They all run around in a steroid induced rage. Bayonetta, on the other hand, dresses like a hooker and slaps people with her hair.
 

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Sgt. Dante said:
Digi7 said:
Oh hell yeah, I'm sure the gameplay is great. BUT gamplay is not hard to design, just takes a team and some simple and good ideas.
Secondly, gameplay is not hard to design? Having an idea that is simple and yet still good is one of the hardest parts of a video game and the most important. Simple does not mean easy. There was an interview I read in a magazine where a developer (cant remember who it was) said that it is easier for his team to make a complex game and harder for them to make a simple one.
 

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Tasteless? Hardly. The team that put that game together clearly knows how to precisely define what falls within the bounds of good taste.

I mean, how else could they manage to overstep said bounds so regularly?
 

Levitas1234

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Video games aren't tailored for jesus christ, is contra tasteless because it only appeals to macho steroid pumping action hero fetishists?
 

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Bayonetta: T&A- blatant. It's a very intentional tongue-in-cheek game. As I said: blatant. VERY intentional. Sure, if the game had taken itself seriously, it would have been very offensive, seeing as it a very attractive woman showing herself off at any given time. Not very good morals there.

However, having played the game, I can say that even if it is someone's fetishes made into a videogame, it's just as tongue-in-cheek as Devil May Cry, only that the main character isn't flashing himself at any given time (thank god for that). Hypothetically, what if Bayonetta had been less voluptuous? Had her stripping had any other reaction?
 

Gordon_4_v1legacy

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Digi7 said:
What the hell do big corporate game desingers think we are nowadays? Do they think we're all sexually frustrated creeps with bizzare fetishes? Bayonetta isn't even sexy, and the story and concepts are shit. True, it was made in Japan. Do they get excused for this? No. Keep your creepy sexual fantasies to yourself, and put your obvious talents to something with some taste for God's sake.

I'm a very aesthetic based guy, and if a game looks or sounds bad I can NOT enjoy gameplay. I'm looking at you, Japan!

Now, Japan can make some beautiful works. Look at things like Zelda and some JRPGs. Wonderful stories and artwork. But occasionally you get some shit like the game mentioned beforehand: A shallow as a teaspoon mindless boob-fest, with awful design and storytelling and incredibly immature depictions of women and sexuality in general.

Thoughts? Do you disagree? Do you just think it's all in fun?

How would YOU feel if you were a game designer who had to make that game, would you begin to despise yourself? I'm sure I would...

I'm sorry, I'm just really getting tired of things like this nowadays, popping up everywhere. They just lack taste...
Bayonetta does something TvTropes, hive of scum and villainy that it is, refers to as 'Crossing the Line Twice'. It takes its concepts, art design and just about everything else and ramps them up so much they shoot past offensive and land in hilarious.

Of course, opinion varies.

I myself found myself in stitches while playing this game: I was having the time of my life. The game was so outrageous and insane that I could not help but smile and enjoy myself.

Of course we come to the meat of the issue: Bayonetta, a step in the right direction or substituting one stereotype for another.....

I have no idea but to me she's no more or worse a stereotype than Marcus Fenix from Gears of War and frankly Bayonetta is more interesting than that cliche spewing, steroid abusing fuckwit.


And to close, if you honestly think that Japanese culture is so damned wrong and in need of changing: put your money where your mouth is, learn the language, move there and find one of those people who are trying to bring about social change for the better.

Like this man: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article7009014.ece
 

jamesworkshop

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Gordon_4 said:
Digi7 said:
What the hell do big corporate game desingers think we are nowadays? Do they think we're all sexually frustrated creeps with bizzare fetishes? Bayonetta isn't even sexy, and the story and concepts are shit. True, it was made in Japan. Do they get excused for this? No. Keep your creepy sexual fantasies to yourself, and put your obvious talents to something with some taste for God's sake.

I'm a very aesthetic based guy, and if a game looks or sounds bad I can NOT enjoy gameplay. I'm looking at you, Japan!

Now, Japan can make some beautiful works. Look at things like Zelda and some JRPGs. Wonderful stories and artwork. But occasionally you get some shit like the game mentioned beforehand: A shallow as a teaspoon mindless boob-fest, with awful design and storytelling and incredibly immature depictions of women and sexuality in general.

Thoughts? Do you disagree? Do you just think it's all in fun?

How would YOU feel if you were a game designer who had to make that game, would you begin to despise yourself? I'm sure I would...

I'm sorry, I'm just really getting tired of things like this nowadays, popping up everywhere. They just lack taste...
Bayonetta does something TvTropes, hive of scum and villainy that it is, refers to as 'Crossing the Line Twice'. It takes its concepts, art design and just about everything else and ramps them up so much they shoot past offensive and land in hilarious.

Of course, opinion varies.

I myself found myself in stitches while playing this game: I was having the time of my life. The game was so outrageous and insane that I could not help but smile and enjoy myself.

Of course we come to the meat of the issue: Bayonetta, a step in the right direction or substituting one stereotype for another.....

I have no idea but to me she's no more or frankly worse a stereotype than Marcus Fenix from Gears of War and frankly Bayonetta is more interesting than that cliche spewing, steroid abusing fuckwit.


And to close, if you honestly think that Japanese culture is so damned wrong and in need of changing: put your money where your mouth is, learn the language, move there and find one of those people who are trying to bring about social change for the better.

Like this man: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article7009014.ece
So the british equivilent would be turning Beachy head into a tourist trap
 

Gordon_4_v1legacy

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jamesworkshop said:
Gordon_4 said:
Digi7 said:
What the hell do big corporate game desingers think we are nowadays? Do they think we're all sexually frustrated creeps with bizzare fetishes? Bayonetta isn't even sexy, and the story and concepts are shit. True, it was made in Japan. Do they get excused for this? No. Keep your creepy sexual fantasies to yourself, and put your obvious talents to something with some taste for God's sake.

I'm a very aesthetic based guy, and if a game looks or sounds bad I can NOT enjoy gameplay. I'm looking at you, Japan!

Now, Japan can make some beautiful works. Look at things like Zelda and some JRPGs. Wonderful stories and artwork. But occasionally you get some shit like the game mentioned beforehand: A shallow as a teaspoon mindless boob-fest, with awful design and storytelling and incredibly immature depictions of women and sexuality in general.

Thoughts? Do you disagree? Do you just think it's all in fun?

How would YOU feel if you were a game designer who had to make that game, would you begin to despise yourself? I'm sure I would...

I'm sorry, I'm just really getting tired of things like this nowadays, popping up everywhere. They just lack taste...
Bayonetta does something TvTropes, hive of scum and villainy that it is, refers to as 'Crossing the Line Twice'. It takes its concepts, art design and just about everything else and ramps them up so much they shoot past offensive and land in hilarious.

Of course, opinion varies.

I myself found myself in stitches while playing this game: I was having the time of my life. The game was so outrageous and insane that I could not help but smile and enjoy myself.

Of course we come to the meat of the issue: Bayonetta, a step in the right direction or substituting one stereotype for another.....

I have no idea but to me she's no more or frankly worse a stereotype than Marcus Fenix from Gears of War and frankly Bayonetta is more interesting than that cliche spewing, steroid abusing fuckwit.


And to close, if you honestly think that Japanese culture is so damned wrong and in need of changing: put your money where your mouth is, learn the language, move there and find one of those people who are trying to bring about social change for the better.

Like this man: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article7009014.ece
So the british equivilent would be turning Beachy head into a tourist trap
Well if you read the article, Yukio Shige thought that doing that was tasteless because he was sick of having to knock on parent's doors and tell them their child had taken their own life. As far as I'm concerned, he's trying to do a good thing.
 

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Bayonetta's gameplay was complex, varied, challenging, and FUN! Remember that word? Fun?

Everything else is forgiven.
 

jamesworkshop

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Gordon_4 said:
jamesworkshop said:
Gordon_4 said:
Digi7 said:
What the hell do big corporate game desingers think we are nowadays? Do they think we're all sexually frustrated creeps with bizzare fetishes? Bayonetta isn't even sexy, and the story and concepts are shit. True, it was made in Japan. Do they get excused for this? No. Keep your creepy sexual fantasies to yourself, and put your obvious talents to something with some taste for God's sake.

I'm a very aesthetic based guy, and if a game looks or sounds bad I can NOT enjoy gameplay. I'm looking at you, Japan!

Now, Japan can make some beautiful works. Look at things like Zelda and some JRPGs. Wonderful stories and artwork. But occasionally you get some shit like the game mentioned beforehand: A shallow as a teaspoon mindless boob-fest, with awful design and storytelling and incredibly immature depictions of women and sexuality in general.

Thoughts? Do you disagree? Do you just think it's all in fun?

How would YOU feel if you were a game designer who had to make that game, would you begin to despise yourself? I'm sure I would...

I'm sorry, I'm just really getting tired of things like this nowadays, popping up everywhere. They just lack taste...
Bayonetta does something TvTropes, hive of scum and villainy that it is, refers to as 'Crossing the Line Twice'. It takes its concepts, art design and just about everything else and ramps them up so much they shoot past offensive and land in hilarious.

Of course, opinion varies.

I myself found myself in stitches while playing this game: I was having the time of my life. The game was so outrageous and insane that I could not help but smile and enjoy myself.

Of course we come to the meat of the issue: Bayonetta, a step in the right direction or substituting one stereotype for another.....

I have no idea but to me she's no more or frankly worse a stereotype than Marcus Fenix from Gears of War and frankly Bayonetta is more interesting than that cliche spewing, steroid abusing fuckwit.


And to close, if you honestly think that Japanese culture is so damned wrong and in need of changing: put your money where your mouth is, learn the language, move there and find one of those people who are trying to bring about social change for the better.

Like this man: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article7009014.ece
So the british equivilent would be turning Beachy head into a tourist trap
Well if you read the article, Yukio Shige thought that doing that was tasteless because he was sick of having to knock on parent's doors and tell them their child had taken their own life. As far as I'm concerned, he's trying to do a good thing.
I wasn't commenting on Yukio's feelings rather that Beachy head as the third most poular suicide spot in the world was the british equivelent of the Tojinbo cliffs.



Also a cliff
 

Gordon_4_v1legacy

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Ah, in that case my bad. Terrible thing suicide.


In short, Bayonetta is brimming with Ham and Cheese, Rule of Cool, Fetish Fuel, Fan Service/Disservice, and at times goes Beyond the Impossible....And I wouldn't want it any other way.



Because I like her so much :)
 

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Hey, I don't have a Box or a Station to play it, so I'm not gonna find out. If the combat is similar to that in DMC, I'm prettty sure I'd enjoy it. Besides, it's Japan. They are fucking insane, in a good way. (except when they are boring)