BBC Forced to Defend Gay Kiss After Complaints

[ReservoirAngel]

Meh, children watch Doctor Who, and John Barrowman snogged Christopher Ecclestone in fairly short order.

While I hate to defend the homophobes here, I have to draw a line under this. That kiss didn't have a romantic intention behind it, while the ones mentioned in the OP evidently do. I don't think it's much of a distinction, but I'm a big of a stickler.

OT: Good for you BBC. These bitching homophobes need to learn that gay people exist and that their children so not live in a world where man only loves woman. Surely subtly bringing the existence of gay and lesbian people to the attention of children at a young age is a good thing. Confuse them very slightly now, to avoid them seeing a gay couple at age 18 when having no prior knowledge and have them pull a "time out, what the fuck guys!?" moment.

EDIT: This reminds me of a sketch on A Little Bit of Fry and Laurie where some uptight woman complains about 'inappropriate' content on TV and the station manager just sits there and goes "I feel I should make clear that I don't give a flying toss about your opinion, now if you'll excuse me I need to go and authorise more prime content that will surely piss you off in the near future, goodbye."

 

[GamerPhate]

Sigh I thought I had conceded enough in some topics to avert these particular arguements, but here we go.

Thing is .. most people are gay tolerant, not really pro-gay like gay people themselves. That being said, it is akin to society standards to brand it inappropriate. Personally, I don't care what you do in your bedroom, just don't let me see it, please! Every gay kiss actually sets you guys back a few years if you know what I mean. Just chill and in decades maybe society will change.

what you are talking about isn't tolerance at all. not even close.

But really, for most guys for example, there is a double standard that most guys find a couple of girls going at it enthralling. However, take these same girls and add about 300 pounds to them and it might change the picture. This could be applied to the gay kiss, we would just rather not see it, keep it private. Hand holding is about as far as we will tolerate currently in society, with an occassion skip or two. But please don't force this stuff on us, its revolting to the people that are not gay. And if you want to decrease persecution, do not do it. Sure, some may thing that they are fighting a civil battle by doing such things, but it only inflames (no pun intended) the masses, and does much more harm to your group than any good. The ONLY people that will like it is gay people, and I think straights might outnumber you or otherwise the population would be a bit lower (don't get me started on gay adopting to counter this).

Nobody put you in charge of "the majority" and nobody asked you what you're willing to tolerate. if you don't like the people you see kissing on TV, you're welcome to turn it off.

They do, and they are VERY impressionable! Especially to mimic what they see on TV. Sure, in theory, let's say some brothers were watching this (lets say 4 and 6 years of age). They see this, and then kiss each other on the mouth. Their mom might find it "sweet", but in reality it is a bit creepy. Even a brother kissing his sister is a bit weird, although not quite as akward. But if kids see something, particularly on TV or now the Internet, they will believe it is socially acceptable, and it currently is not publicly alright, just on paper.

It is socially acceptable, at least in the society i live in. I'm sorry if yours is different.

Thus some kid see this and gets these ideas in his brain that this is what he wants to do, and then comes up with a born this way theory, when it was just bad parent supervision. Look, I am not trying to say being gay is right or wrong, but I am fairly sure straight people want their kids to grou up straight, and gay people want their kids to grow up gay.

You are wrong. Gay parents don't want their child to grow up either way. They love their children no matter what, regardless of whether they're gay or straight. Some straight parents do this too; i'm glad mine did.

#1 Tolerance is NOT acceptance. I can tolerate what you do if I don't see it.

#2 Thank god I don't represent this hell hole of a planet, but sure I can turn off the tv if I hate what is going on. Although with the case of Glee, I have no such option as my GF likes the show, so I am forced to turn away and go la la la la. Also, you missed the point of the paragraph. I was showing an extreme example of the opposite situation to get you an idea where everyone else is coming from besides your view on the world. In an attempt to get you to see WHY everyone does not like to see this.

#3 If you live in San Fransico I am sure, but in the mid west we don't have guys in daisy dukes rollerblading holding hands.

#4 This is called lieing to your kids so that they can try to attempt to feel normal. I am sure that in a situation where one of the parents was partially gay/bi, they would be much more accepting of either way their kids go. But biologically, the only way we reproduce is placing a mans seed into a womans belly, as your parents did to create you. Most parents create kids in hopes that they do the same and continue the genetic alignment that makes them unique. I don't care about adoption or borrowing a chicks tummy, that isn't what I am talking about here. I am talking about biology, procreation that is productive, and the continuing of mankind. If in theory in a way distant future where everyone was gay, I can imagine the population would dwindle quite a bit, although everyone will have expensively nice furniture and drapes with matching throw pillows. But that time is not now, these are the times we live in, and get use to it.

 

[ShadowsofHope]

THE HORROR!

..The only thing confusing the children, parents, is having to reconcile the visual/physical existence of gay people around them when you keep telling them that gay people don't exist.

 

[jumjalalabash]

I agree with the complainers! Everyone knows gays are just an urban legend liberals made up to scare religious people so they convert to Satanism. No need for that to be shown.

 

[Kahunaburger]

Don't children get confused by everything. Hense the general...being young...thing.

People.

They do, and they are VERY impressionable! Especially to mimic what they see on TV. Sure, in theory, let's say some brothers were watching this (lets say 4 and 6 years of age). They see this, and then kiss each other on the mouth. Their mom might find it "sweet", but in reality it is a bit creepy. Even a brother kissing his sister is a bit weird, although not quite as akward. But if kids see something, particularly on TV or now the Internet, they will believe it is socially acceptable, and it currently is not publicly alright, just on paper.

Thus some kid see this and gets these ideas in his brain that this is what he wants to do, and then comes up with a born this way theory, when it was just bad parent supervision. Look, I am not trying to say being gay is right or wrong, but I am fairly sure straight people want their kids to go up straight, and gay people want their kids to group gay. Some are tolerant of the other, or claim to be at least, but in the end, kids see something they do it.

Let's take the Beavis and Butthead problem in the 90's. Some kid watched the show and burned his house down, after reportedly idolizing Beavis and his fire-fetish. I don't have all the details handy as it has been many years, but this is the net, I am sure someone will have a link somewhere. But my point is that, had the kid not watched the show, would have still burned the house down? Who knows, but he got the idea to do it that time from the show, so basically if you put something in front of a kid they will soak it up like a sponge. Ever notice how kids have the SAME ideals and beliefs as their parents, even though the kids have NO idea about the world and how it really operates. They take their parents view as their own, like little brainwashed kids at a political protest wearing signs on their shirt they can't even read.

But yeah I am sure some are going to disagree with what I said, and that is fine, I respect your right to disagree. But I am just letting those offended by the offended people know that THIS is why they are upset likely. So, respect their belief to not want to have gay kids.

*Flame shield (thats ironic lol)** - Look I have gay friends, and friends of various races. I don't judge people, but I don't like to see details sometimes. I am sure if I told a gay person about how I romped my GF last night they would be repulsed too. So just keep it in your pants in public so to speak, and to yourself, please!

Ah, that would explain why walk around everywhere with a whip and a fedora - I saw Indiana Jones as a kid.

Yes, and every kid grows up to be an astronaut, fireman, and president. That is called playing and pretending, kissing a dude on the mouth goes WELL beyond playing.

Wait... so you're worried about kids going around kissing other kids on the mouth because they saw it on TV? IMO, no parent should allow their kids to kiss any kid on the mouth - they're too young for that, and it spreads germs. The gender of the other kid in question doesn't really have any bearing.

If you think it will cause kids to grow up to be gay, ask yourself a question: am I a fedora-wearing, womanizing, whip-wielding archaeologist? If not, stop worrying.

Did...Did you just call Indiana Jones a "gay-influence"?

It was a callback to something I said earlier - he seems to think that if kids watch gay stuff, it will turn them gay. I asked him if watching Indiana Jones as a kid turns people into Indiana Jones.

 

[Caffeinated]

yall do know that there is no evidence that homosexuality is genetic right?
i say that neither in opposition nor defence of it, just as a scientific fact

 

[ReservoirAngel]

Every gay kiss actually sets you guys back a few years if you know what I mean. Just chill and in decades maybe society will change.

How does it set us back to have our lifestyle presented on TV? Please explain that to me, cause honestly I have no fucking idea what logic exists in that statement.

 

[FamoFunk]

Really?... Really?

I'm convinced some people sit on the sofa, phone in hand ready to ring Ofcom/BBC/whoever, even if they know they'll be offended.

Shelterd life. There's far more pressing things to get worked up about in the world than, shock horror, same sex kissing.

 

[Kahunaburger]

Don't children get confused by everything. Hense the general...being young...thing.

People.

They do, and they are VERY impressionable! Especially to mimic what they see on TV. Sure, in theory, let's say some brothers were watching this (lets say 4 and 6 years of age). They see this, and then kiss each other on the mouth. Their mom might find it "sweet", but in reality it is a bit creepy. Even a brother kissing his sister is a bit weird, although not quite as akward. But if kids see something, particularly on TV or now the Internet, they will believe it is socially acceptable, and it currently is not publicly alright, just on paper.

Thus some kid see this and gets these ideas in his brain that this is what he wants to do, and then comes up with a born this way theory, when it was just bad parent supervision. Look, I am not trying to say being gay is right or wrong, but I am fairly sure straight people want their kids to go up straight, and gay people want their kids to group gay. Some are tolerant of the other, or claim to be at least, but in the end, kids see something they do it.

Let's take the Beavis and Butthead problem in the 90's. Some kid watched the show and burned his house down, after reportedly idolizing Beavis and his fire-fetish. I don't have all the details handy as it has been many years, but this is the net, I am sure someone will have a link somewhere. But my point is that, had the kid not watched the show, would have still burned the house down? Who knows, but he got the idea to do it that time from the show, so basically if you put something in front of a kid they will soak it up like a sponge. Ever notice how kids have the SAME ideals and beliefs as their parents, even though the kids have NO idea about the world and how it really operates. They take their parents view as their own, like little brainwashed kids at a political protest wearing signs on their shirt they can't even read.

But yeah I am sure some are going to disagree with what I said, and that is fine, I respect your right to disagree. But I am just letting those offended by the offended people know that THIS is why they are upset likely. So, respect their belief to not want to have gay kids.

*Flame shield (thats ironic lol)** - Look I have gay friends, and friends of various races. I don't judge people, but I don't like to see details sometimes. I am sure if I told a gay person about how I romped my GF last night they would be repulsed too. So just keep it in your pants in public so to speak, and to yourself, please!

Ah, that would explain why walk around everywhere with a whip and a fedora - I saw Indiana Jones as a kid.

Yes, and every kid grows up to be an astronaut, fireman, and president. That is called playing and pretending, kissing a dude on the mouth goes WELL beyond playing.

Wait... so you're worried about kids going around kissing other kids on the mouth because they saw it on TV? IMO, no parent should allow their kids to kiss any kid on the mouth - they're too young for that, and it spreads germs. The gender of the other kid in question doesn't really have any bearing.

If you think it will cause kids to grow up to be gay, ask yourself a question: am I a fedora-wearing, womanizing, whip-wielding archaeologist? If not, stop worrying.

You would be a better person if you did dig up artifacts for a living. But your arguement is moot, as you are talking about a job, not a life choice. Also, people change jobs, but rarely orientation. And early influences on TV go a long way into shaping a kid. In fact, I have a theory by the time all of us reading this are decrepid eldery fogies, we will forget our names but will be able to sing every jingle or commercial we heard on tv. In fact, think about it, and you will hear one chime in your head. Just saying, plant a seed in a brain, and it grows.

But yes, kids have so many germs, kissing in general is a bad idea, but I was just using that prior statement as a preface for the other paragraphs to follow.

Really, being Indiana Jones is less of a profession and more of a lifestyle choice. But being gay is neither profession nor lifestyle choice - it's an orientation that individuals appear to be born with, likely as the result of prenatal hormones. So stop worrying so much.

 

[evilneko]

They should release the names and phone numbers of those who complained to all the yaoi fangirls.

Problem solved.

/silly

 

[Hap2]

Some people really need to be booted out of their bubble of what they think the world is, it seems.

 

[McNinja]

When I saw that, 'Cpt. Jack Harkins' popped into my head for a moment.
He shares a kiss with another bloke somewhere in my mind, I can't remember where I saw that.
I respect the BBC for having the balls to defend what they throwed in the air, and not backing down from it like little children. Assuming that the BBC is a male.
Now I need to get back to my Shnitzels on the flying pan.

Jack and the asian lady go back in time and meet the real Jack Harkness. That episode.

I thought it was great that the BBC was being progressive in their acceptance of homosexuality. I figured more people would have complained in the Jack on Jack episode of Torchwood. Or Any of the other bits of Torchwood.

 

[Riobux]

I really thought we were better than this. I really thought so.

 

[ReservoirAngel]

Homophobia is still going strong, I see.

How do you figure? 125 complaints from a population of over 60 million is roughly what's to be expected. You can get 125 people riled up over anything, you'd have more than that complaining if my home town cancelled the Guy Fawkes night fireworks and my home town is tiny.

It's not over 60 million that are homophobic, it's the 125 that are homophobic enough to complain, and even then it's out of the however-many actually watch these crappy shows.

 

[Xannieros]

Confusing children? THAT'S WHERE YOU STEP IN PARENTS, DO YOUR JOB.

Overreaction over the most pointless junk.

 

[fates_puppet13]

"confuse children"
thats just stupid
if someone is more likely to be confused if they are "protected" from things
some people really need to grow up
people are diffrent but at the same time equal

ugh
i spend more time complaining about ignorance to things than i do defending my own opinions

 

[Karma168]

I remember when there was a gay couple in Emmerdale a few years back my gran admitted that it made her uncomfortable watching the kissing scenes, she's from the older generation where being gay just wasn't mainstream so it's understandable but she would never complain about it, she at least understands that it happens in real life it's going to happen on TV. These people need a reality check.

 

[ImmortalDrifter]

I'm moderately disappointed in BBC for thinking these stupid fucks deserved the attention they're so obviously whoring.