This.Mackheath said:Treat her how she treats you.
If she's a ***** to you, be a dick to her.
I've been called a ***** for refusing to sleep with a guy I had just met, so that's a really broad (lol) definition. A lot of guys (and no, before you fly off the handle, I am NOT saying you do this) seem to think that being a gentleman for three hours earns them a place to stay for the night, and that if the woman doesn't put out then she's clearly not worth being nice to anymore.Mackheath said:Treat her how she treats you.
If she's a ***** to you, be a dick to her.
Ok, that's fucking horrendous... See, that's what I hate about 'manners' - it can be used as a horrible cloak to get into someone's pants.Trivea said:Speaking as a female, I would like to find a healthy balance between the "girls can't do anything for themselves" of the past and the "women can fend for themselves so we don't need to do anything for them", but really... chivalry is best used on a romantic occasion, because if you're in love with a woman (or out on a date with her or whatever) there's nothing wrong with showing her that you care in little ways like opening the door for her or something.
I've been called a ***** for refusing to sleep with a guy I had just met, so that's a really broad (lol) definition. A lot of guys (and no, before you fly off the handle, I am NOT saying you do this) seem to think that being a gentleman for three hours earns them a place to stay for the night, and that if the woman doesn't put out then she's clearly not worth being nice to anymore.Mackheath said:Treat her how she treats you.
If she's a ***** to you, be a dick to her.
Overall, I don't see anything wrong or sexist at all with a man being a gentleman to a lady... as long as she's behaving like a lady, because it works both ways.
There are times when it doesn't work, yes, and I'm not saying it's a catch-all attitude. Some people who are consistently mean spirited and unpleasant deserve to have justice exacted upon them, but for the most part, if someone's unpleasant to you, if you smile, nod and tell them their hair looks nice today, they shut down.gmaverick019 said:not saying this isn't true, but after working in customer service/fraud, it was the most sweetest of justice when my boss (which he was allowed to) would knock down fuckers a peg or two when they were out right dickheads just to be a douche. the look on their face was usually priceless and doing the "nice the living shit out of them" didn't quite work...unfortunately.Cap said:Or y'know, be the bigger man and don't be petty and instead continue to be a decent human being to her.Mackheath said:Treat her how she treats you.
If she's a ***** to you, be a dick to her.
There's no better way to disarm someone being unpleasant than to be unexpectedly pleasant with no ulterior motive.
OT: I was born with a "Kill them before they kill you" attitude, but I'm pretty sure all girls are.
As to my expectations as a lady to provide a point of reference of sorts, I expect people to be kind and polite, much as I would with anyone, and anything further is an appreciated gesture, so long as it doesn't come across as condescending.
Actually that dates back to before indoor plumbing when people still used chamber pots and emptied them out their windows. The lady was put closer to the buildings so that if someone happened to be emptying out their chamber pot the mess would wind up on the male rather than the female. But that is neither here nor there, your reasoning works fine as well.rancher of monsters said:So most guys here have probably been taught on some level how to be a gentleman in their respective culture. As an American, I was raised to open a door for a lady, to pull out her seat, and a few other rules of etiquette. But I feel at the same time that a large number of woman often don't recognize some of these things as gentlemanly, or simply don't expect them at all. So I thought on this thread we guys would throw out some of the rules we were raised with, and see if these are things that a lady would appreciate or even recognize as gentlemanly behavior. Example, one of the more recent rules I learned was that if I'm walking along with a lady I should be on the side of her closest to the street. The thinking there I would assume is that I could protect her from a splash or I could push her out of the way if a car lost control.
Well you've fucked up royally with me then haven't you kitty? ;PMackheath said:Treat her how she treats you.
If she's a ***** to you, be a dick to her.