Orga777 said:
Recusant said:
Did you really think they were going to bring back anything like what the last game had? I never played it, but I knew its reputation; you'd never be able to pull off something like that nowadays.
Nonsensical and completely unfounded belief right here. Everyone forgets that South Park got a critically acclaimed game only a couple years ago, with a sequel coming out THIS YEAR, and absolutely nothing in the first game was politically correct. Nothing in South Park is politically correct, and yet here we are, almost 20 years later, with South Park changing nothing except how to insult the most amount of people possible and being funny about it all. If times have changed that much, it wouldn't be around any more. :/
If Microsoft made a new legitimate Conker game, there probably wouldn't be the outcry all the conspiracy theorists think there will be.
Go back and read my post again. Providing one counter-example hardly makes my point "nonsensical and completely unfounded"; exposing a single apparent flaw in an idea doesn't make it completely invalid. Pour some water into a bowl of cornstarch and you've made yourself a non-Newtownian fluid- does that mean we should stop teaching his laws? You did demonstrate a problem with my argument, which I will address below, but in the meanwhile, I'll thank you to show some respect.
South Park has been the air for almost two decades, and most importantly, is
still on the air. When Fallout 3 was released, there hadn't been a Fallout game in over a decade (not counting the spinoffs). Conker rode controversy and outrageousness just like South Park does, but with a long enough gap, the public memory essentially resets itself, especially when the prior audience is a relatively niche one. This is why Valve and Facebook can both call a ViewMaster you strapped to your face "virtual reality"; most of their target audience isn't old enough to remember actual force feedback systems that gave you haptic information that related to what was happening in-game; something you can't achieve without specific equipment, as opposed to just holding your eyes half an inch from your monitor and taping an optical mouse to the side of your head (those of their target audience who
are old enough to remember have mostly become jaded from hearing about it being "just five years away!" for decades).
That's not to say that if, say, South Park went off the air tomorrow and released another game nine years later, that it'd be hopelessly cut down to appease modern sensibilities, but that's because TV doesn't have the same stigma to overcome in terms of "not turning our children into mass murderers". Yes, a South Park game and a Conker game are both games, but the you can't ignore the source, at least not in terms of determining the public's reaction. Secondly, remember where it's coming from: Microsoft isn't Comedy Central. Humor very often inherently treads on the edge of acceptability, and if it dances a little too close to the fire, people are a lot more forgiving of it than if a titanic software company that seems to think that Standard Oil is a perfect role model.
Yes, this is idiotic. Remember, though, that we're not talking about individual people. Humans are thoughtful, intelligent creatures. Humanity is a collection of savannah chimps with a vastly overinflated sense of its own self-importance. Many companies would gamble on the net result of releasing controversial material being positive. For a company with this many fingers, however, bad publicity actually is bad. Valve might release a game as wondrously juvenile and stupid (and that is genuine praise, in this weird case). Running With Scissors would look and say "it doesn't go far enough", since this sort of thing is their bread and butter. But not Microsoft.