Ben Affleck will be the New Batman in Man of Steel sequel: Why the hate?

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Considering that some people hated him for his role as Dare Devil/ Matt Murdock, he isn't fairing well in this recent news. No I ain't one of the hates as I did enjoyed Dare Devil and I ain't the type who judge it on face valve (well most of the time but I am given him a chance for this).
 

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I'm not pissed. Just confused. I just cannot imagine Affleck as Batman.

That said, I can see him doing an amazing Bruce Wayne. So... I'm open to this idea. Scratching my head along the way, but open.
 
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gavinmcinns said:
EeveeElectro said:
If people had waited until a trailer came out, they wouldn't look so stupid with their complaining.

Now they just look like they're refusing to eat a food which they say they don't like, despite never even trying it.

I'm staying hopeful, I can't see them making such a mess of modern Batman.
Hmmm shitty director who directs shitty movies, shitty actor who often acts in the shitty ass shit movies he directs, daredevil. I wonder why people are pissed!
Are you serious? I'm not a huge fan of Affleck's acting, but he is an absolutely brilliant director [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Affleck_filmography#Director].
Maybe besides the point, but he's only directed 3 proper films and each one has over 90% on Rotten Tomatoes (and more importantly, each one is genius). He's only a 'shitty director' to people who have no taste.
 

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What stand out roles did bale have before dark knight? Apart from american psycho and possibly shaft (in which his character was basically bruce wayne anyway)
Well, his role as Patrick Bateman already blows every acting performance Affleck ever did out of the water. But speaking of which, I didn't really like Bale as Batman either. His Batman voice sucked, and there was just no real likeability to his Bruce Wayne.

Michael Keaton is still the live-action Batman to me. And that's precisely because as Batman he could sound threatening without having to gargle glass, and he gave him a sly creepiness. And as Bruce Wayne you would never expect him to be a masked vigilante, because... he's Michael Keaton.
 

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James Joseph Emerald said:
gavinmcinns said:
EeveeElectro said:
If people had waited until a trailer came out, they wouldn't look so stupid with their complaining.

Now they just look like they're refusing to eat a food which they say they don't like, despite never even trying it.

I'm staying hopeful, I can't see them making such a mess of modern Batman.
Hmmm shitty director who directs shitty movies, shitty actor who often acts in the shitty ass shit movies he directs, daredevil. I wonder why people are pissed!
Are you serious? I'm not a huge fan of Affleck's acting, but he is an absolutely brilliant director [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Affleck_filmography#Director].
Maybe besides the point, but he's only directed 3 proper films and each one has over 90% on Rotten Tomatoes (and more importantly, each one is genius). He's only a 'shitty director' to people who have no taste.
I hated gone baby gone (whinging, melodramatic, SLOW), and I hated argo (pro American ra ra ra (no, the 5 minute intro doesn't discount the rest of the film being this way) then some explosions and shit. TOTAL misrepresentation of american dealings in and around Iran. I hated the untouchables (not related, but a reference point.)

I don't judge movies by what the critics think, i judge them on their own merit. "Harsh times" was panned by critics, but remains to this day a seminal tour de force that is unrivaled in intensity (perhaps by training which David Ayer also had a hand in.)
 

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elvor0 said:
Abomination said:
Since when was Batman an interesting character? He's a cardboard cutout that punches things and grumbles at people.

Batman has ALWAYS been about the villains.

I think Ben Affleck is perfect for the role. He's got the build, the chin and the voice.

And again... stupid people are passing judgement before it's even out.
Be that as it may, we've already seen him do Daredevil, and he seriously phoned it in on that. If people don't like him, and have seen movies with him in, is that not enough to at least garner a pre emptive opinion on the matter? Even if Batman can come across as a little one dimensional at times, he still needs to give a certain presence. But then I don't think Bale had that presence either, if he couldn't pull it off with Daredevil, how can we be sure he'll pull it off with Batman?

I trust Snyder to deliver a good film, but I still have my doubts about Afleck.
First I thought DareDevil was a decent movie(exlusive of the playground scene), but even if many others didn't, I don't judge an actor by one move or even two. Affleck was pretty good in The Town, Dogma and even Boiler Room and Dazed and Confused. But besides I think he has changed from his early roles. I think that he will make a great Bruce Wayne.. Not sure about Batman.. Needless to say I more concerned with the movie direction. Doesn't matter the actor if the movie doesn't open a role for them to play. I have seen many great actors in awful roles.

I think the funny part is how there is so much nerd rage on the internet. A petition to have the studio change it? LOL, people need to focus on more important things. Like petitioning for a time machine!
 

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imahobbit4062 said:
Because this is the internet, where everyone must hate everything.
Fixed that for you. :D

And to continue the tradition, I'm not terribly disturbed by this. For quite awhile the movies have cared about Batman as an icon rather than a character, so I think you could hand the role to a toaster and they'd do a passable job at it.
 

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I don't hate Ben Affleck. I just don't think he's a good fit for this role, with this director. This isn't meant to be an insult to either Affleck of Snyder - I've quite enjoyed much of their stuff. I even liked Daredevil and Suckerpunch. But Ben Affleck is like Sly Stallone in many ways - when you see him on screen, he's Ben Affleck. Even in Argo, he was Ben Affleck with a beard. He puts too much of himself into each role. I worry that when we see the new Batman, it's going to be Ben Affleck in a cape, not Batman.

Comparisons to Heath Ledger are slightly mismatched - Ledger wasn't quite as iconic as Affleck is (Iconic in the meaning of having a fixed conventional style), Ledger was a superior actor and was given a role that allowed him to entirely ignore his own image and personality - literally. The Joker never appeared on screen looking like a regular person, so there was never a need for Ledger to look like Ledger but act like the Joker.

I hope my concerns turn out to be unfounded, but I won't give him a pass on it until the movie comes out.
 

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Christian bale has always been an excellent actor and i am always intrigued by any new role i haven't yet seen from him. Always believable. Harsh times is definitely one of those hidden gems i did not expect. TBH, batman himself is not the most interesting character anyway, its always his colourful villains that stand out. Bale just did what he does best in that role, Nolan just weaved his magic to complete its awesomeness.

Unfortunately, Affleck has always just been a 'meh' to me. All past roles as basis of opinion. However, some actors mature into talent later on, so maybe...just maybe, this will be a chance for him to do something special for once
 

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Michael Keaton to be Batman: Fans rage ceaselessly until film is released, are full of praise after.

Heath Ledger to be Joker: Fans snark endlessly until film is released, Joker is heralded as the best thing ever.

Anne Hathaway to be Catwoman: Fans whinge that there's no way she can pull it off until film is released, fans immediately stop whinging.

Since I'm decent at seeing patterns, I predict that Ben Affleck will do fine.
 

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I'm not really upset that Ben Affleck is Batman, I'm upset that Ben Affleck is Batman in another Superman movie directed by Zack fucking Snyder.
 

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He isn't Adam West, therefore this movie will suck.


lacktheknack said:
Anne Hathaway to be Catwoman: Fans whinge that there's no way she can pull it off until film is released, fans immediately stop whinging.
I don't think she pulled it off, although I blame the script more than the actress.
 

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Ben Affleck I liked best when he was playing a dude who played a superhero.

I don't think he's a good fit for the role, and partly it's because I think he's too famous. However, my problem is not so much Ben Affleck himself as much as his selection gives me concern for the movie overall. Man of Steel did okay, but it wasn't a sustained hit which generated excitement for a follow up. So what do they do? They got Batman to save Superman's bacon. I think Batman is getting overexposed because the brand is consistently making money and can prop up properties that don't do so well.
 

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Whytewulf said:
elvor0 said:
Abomination said:
Since when was Batman an interesting character? He's a cardboard cutout that punches things and grumbles at people.

Batman has ALWAYS been about the villains.

I think Ben Affleck is perfect for the role. He's got the build, the chin and the voice.

And again... stupid people are passing judgement before it's even out.
Be that as it may, we've already seen him do Daredevil, and he seriously phoned it in on that. If people don't like him, and have seen movies with him in, is that not enough to at least garner a pre emptive opinion on the matter? Even if Batman can come across as a little one dimensional at times, he still needs to give a certain presence. But then I don't think Bale had that presence either, if he couldn't pull it off with Daredevil, how can we be sure he'll pull it off with Batman?

I trust Snyder to deliver a good film, but I still have my doubts about Afleck.
First I thought DareDevil was a decent movie(exlusive of the playground scene), but even if many others didn't, I don't judge an actor by one move or even two. Affleck was pretty good in The Town, Dogma and even Boiler Room and Dazed and Confused. But besides I think he has changed from his early roles. I think that he will make a great Bruce Wayne.. Not sure about Batman.. Needless to say I more concerned with the movie direction. Doesn't matter the actor if the movie doesn't open a role for them to play. I have seen many great actors in awful roles.

I think the funny part is how there is so much nerd rage on the internet. A petition to have the studio change it? LOL, people need to focus on more important things. Like petitioning for a time machine!

ehhh, I watched it again not so long ago and I found it pretty iffy. Which is weird, considering I remember really enjoying it when it came out, and I had been reading Daredevil for quite a while before it did, but then I was only 12 at the time. Colin Farell was fun in it though, I mean it certainly isn't awful, just quite cringe worthy in places.

But no, you're right judging an actor on one movie is a bad idea and truth to told he can be a good actor, I'm just not feeling him for this. Who knows could be pleasantly surprised, I too am also wondering where they're going for Superman vs Batman, it could be entirely possible it could be going for some elements of Dark Knight Returns at this point, considering they announced it with a quote from DKR, and they're getting Frank Miller in for collaboration.

If that's the case, I'd prefer something based on his older stuff, as well...he's a little insane these days. 300 is actually about the war on terror, with the Spartans representing America and Xerxes representing Al'quieda. Cos that's a totally fair metaphor. Nevermind the canned/retooled story Batman vs Al'quieda.

Casual Shinji said:
Michael Keaton is still the live-action Batman to me. And that's precisely because as Batman he could sound threatening without having to gargle glass, and he gave him a sly creepiness. And as Bruce Wayne you would never expect him to be a masked vigilante, because... he's Michael Keaton.
I'd say it was a toss up between Keaton and Kilmer, in fact rewatching Batman Forever again recently, I'd say had Kilmer been in the Burton films, it could've been even better. Kilmers Batman still has that gothic/moody element to the scenes without the villians, I dunno, Kilmers Bruce Wayne felt more believable as the good looking, charming playboy, whereas Keatons Wayne felt a bit...frumpy. Wooly Jumpers and spectacles don't exactly scream playboy millionaire :p

Still love Batman 89 and Returns to bits though.
 

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I don't like it simply because I despise Ben Affleck. Doesn't matter if he can pull another Heath Ledger. Though I don't believe he's good enough of an actor to make me see anyone but Ben Affleck when I see him.
 
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gavinmcinns said:
I hated gone baby gone (whinging, melodramatic, SLOW), and I hated argo (pro American ra ra ra (no, the 5 minute intro doesn't discount the rest of the film being this way) then some explosions and shit. TOTAL misrepresentation of american dealings in and around Iran. I hated the untouchables (not related, but a reference point.)

I don't judge movies by what the critics think, i judge them on their own merit. "Harsh times" was panned by critics, but remains to this day a seminal tour de force that is unrivaled in intensity (perhaps by training which David Ayer also had a hand in.)
It's not just about what critics think. If you look [http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/argo_2012/], the audience ratings are just as high. 181,381+ people can't be wrong; at the very least, your opinion isn't any more valid than theirs. (And before you say "those hundreds of thousands of people just follow the critics like sheep", then you should check out some other [http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/boondock_saints/] contentious [http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/1208173-splice/] films [http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/chronicles_of_riddick/])

There is a difference between saying "I don't like Ben Affleck's movies" and "Ben Affleck is a shitty director, his movies are shitty, and everyone else in the world is wrong."
 

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Eh...I honestly couldn't care less. I don't really watch DC movies anyway.

Besides there will only ever be one true Batman and that's Kevin Conroy. That glorious voice...
 

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lacktheknack said:
Michael Keaton to be Batman: Fans rage ceaselessly until film is released, are full of praise after.

Heath Ledger to be Joker: Fans snark endlessly until film is released, Joker is heralded as the best thing ever.

Anne Hathaway to be Catwoman: Fans whinge that there's no way she can pull it off until film is released, fans immediately stop whinging.

Since I'm decent at seeing patterns, I predict that Ben Affleck will do fine.
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