best example of a game that you could call "art"

[delet]

Shadow of the Colossus, I got as a birthday gift more or less on day one. I saw a video of it on the internet and was amazed by the giants you would get to kill. Once able to play it, I played nonstop and beat it within 2 days. I then did what I have done with no other game and played through a second time, then a third, and a fourth.

Part of why I love this game is how it has almost no story, and yet tells one that is quite profound. Truly, it nearly made me cry for that horse, Agro. I loved it because it wasn't a particularly happy ending, and that gave it a much more profound meaning. I loved the game itself because the game play was quite fun. It was a puzzle where you had to figure out how to get to a weakpoint and stab at precise times so you can do some actual damage.

I found this game to be art simply because of the story told in such a minimal way, and the huge landscape that just begged you to explore it. The colossi, who were truly giants, their size was portrayed excellently. Even now I take out a dusty old PS2 to play it once in a while.

You did not actually explain why it's supposed to be "art."

Now for Bioshock. I loved this game because of, once again, the story. This is the first game I have ever played that almost felt like it could have been a book, especially with the 'would you kindly' revelation. I could see this game as both movie and book, as it had an excellent story. I gasped, my jaw dropped, when I got to the point where I killed Andrew Ryan.

BioShock is essentially based on a book, Atlas Shrugged [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlas_Shrugged].

BioShock looks and sounds cool and all that, but I see nothing "artistic" about it. It just says "free market capitalism sucks if you take it too far," and that's about it.

Metal Gear Solid series. I have completely fallen in love with the story line. Its just told so well!

Oh God...

I bolded where I stated why I considered it art. Read the full thing before commenting, please.

And no, Bioshock is based on SystemShock. Nowhere on that wiki do I see anything related to Bioshock, granted I skimmed due to lack of time. Even if Bioshock were based on a book that'd only make it better, in my opinion.

Truly, I want to know who you think you are, to judge what I can consider to be art or not. I've seen a painting hang in an art museum that was a pure, single shade of blue. Nothing more, nothing less. That is considered art. Art is opinion based and up to the individual.

As I said before, I like games based on whether or not I enjoyed playing them, and the experience I get out of them. If you need more proof, I'll tell you this: I enjoyed Prince of Persia: Warrior Within quite a bit. In fact, I believe that to the be the best game in that trilogy. The only fault with it was that it completely fucked up the story, but everything else was terrific. I was actually able to set aside the destruction of a terrific story because of how good the game was! And yet, it is considered a horrible game by all. Oh well...

 

[Daveman]

Surely art's only purpose is itself, in which case no game can ever be art?

Maybe games can be functional art.

But then it's not art? If it functions, then it serves another purpose other than itself.

So if a painting happens to cover up a nasty stain on the wall, then it's not art. Even if it was done by Picasso or whatever.

 

[Woodsey]

Surely art's only purpose is itself, in which case no game can ever be art?

Maybe games can be functional art.

But then it's not art? If it functions, then it serves another purpose other than itself.

So if a painting happens to cover up a nasty stain on the wall, then it's not art. Even if it was done by Picasso or whatever.

You're taking it a little too far and out of context.

 

[The Ultimate 2]

Bioshock, Okami, No More Heroes and of course God of War 1 and 2

 

[gamefreakbsp]

Assassin's Creed

 

[AddytheGreat]

The game thats coming out soon can only really be considered art...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-A8xvFKaRA
Thats "Love" and it looks very nice

yeah I've been following this awhile, probably won't be out for another year.

I think its in open Beta now, I'll PM you the link though, I don't know if that would have counted as advertising...

 

[Comma-Kazie]

The Legend of Dragoon and Dragon Age: Origins, both for sheer storytelling, Final Fantasy X for story and music, and anything made by Valve because . . . well, it's Valve. No more need be said.

 

[Siegreich]

Persona 3

 

[NIHILHATE]

Silent Hill 2, Thief: Deadly Shadows, Half Life 2 and Fallout 3.

 

[mindclockwork]

deus ex. the plot was simply so deep and intriguing.

 

[Woodsey]

Surely art's only purpose is itself, in which case no game can ever be art?

In playing something you are mearly listening to, watching and repsonding to cues. I don't think you could argue anything with function isn't art.

Alright - was just throwing the thought out there! I heard it a while ago and it made a fair bit of sense.

Although games are still not art to me.

 

[Woodsey]

Surely art's only purpose is itself, in which case no game can ever be art?

In playing something you are mearly listening to, watching and repsonding to cues. I don't think you could argue anything with function isn't art.

Alright - was just throwing the thought out there! I heard it a while ago and it made a fair bit of sense.

Although games are still not art to me.

Ah sorry.
Didn't mean to sound, aggressive?

Haha, no don't worry - I've just been quoted on it like 5 times now xD

 

[Daveman]

Surely art's only purpose is itself, in which case no game can ever be art?

Maybe games can be functional art.

But then it's not art? If it functions, then it serves another purpose other than itself.

So if a painting happens to cover up a nasty stain on the wall, then it's not art. Even if it was done by Picasso or whatever.

You're taking it a little too far and out of context.

Nah, I'm just saying it's a rubbish, pretentious definition.

 

[Woodsey]

Surely art's only purpose is itself, in which case no game can ever be art?

Maybe games can be functional art.

But then it's not art? If it functions, then it serves another purpose other than itself.

So if a painting happens to cover up a nasty stain on the wall, then it's not art. Even if it was done by Picasso or whatever.

You're taking it a little too far and out of context.

Nah, I'm just saying it's a rubbish, pretentious definition.

Well considering art is entirely subjective, I'd like to see you come up with something.

It makes sense to me and fits with my idea of art which, in retrospect, is the whole point.