Best/Worst Game Twists (Spoilers Aplenty)

[Saltarius]

Best - BioShock. Doesn't even need to be said. Or maybe Arkham City:

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Clayface pretending to be the cured Joker. It was subtly sign-posted throughout the game, but when it's revealed at the end, I still got a surprise. That game was just full of great things!

Worst - Resident Evil 5. IT WAS OBVIOUS THAT JILL WAS STILL ALIVE, IT WASN'T A SURPRISE!

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Actually, there is a really, REALLY not-so-subtle signpost in the Joker boss fight. If you turn on Detective Mode, he has no skeleton. Still, it was a good twist.

 

[woodaba]

Best: KoTOR II

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You, the Exile, are a Force Reaver, (you literally suck the life force and free will of those around you, without even realizing it) and your continued existence threatens the destruction of the Force.

So. Goddamn. Awesome.

Worst: Deus Ex Invisible War

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JC Denton is alive, and is a COMPLETE FUCKING MORON.

Crysis 2 gets an honorable mention, because I have no idea what the twist was.

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Did Prophet take over Alcatraz? Is Alcatraz just continuing his Legacy? What the hell happened?

 

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Crysis 2 gets an honorable mention, because I have no idea what the twist was.

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Did Prophet take over Alcatraz? Is Alcatraz just continuing his Legacy? What the hell happened?

Oh god this was such an awful twist ending. The entire game's story was based on twists I couldn't care about.

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Oh Prophet dies hooray.

Oh some old dude is giving me orders from the suit who was hunting me 5 minutes ago.

Oh the old dude lives in jelly or something and is cutting me out of the suit.

Oh the woman is actually with the CIA.

Oh yeah Aliens my suit can kill the Aliens.

Oh some other old dude is alive.

Oh yeah I am Prophet, Prophet is me? Prophet is the suit? WHAAAAAAAAAAT?

Oh yeah there are aliens everywhere, apparently. What.

 

[SajuukKhar]

Crysis 2 gets an honorable mention, because I have no idea what the twist was.

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Did Prophet take over Alcatraz? Is Alcatraz just continuing his Legacy? What the hell happened?

Crysis 2 made me go............ whut?

 

[Norrdicus]

Best: KoTOR II

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You, the Exile, are a Force Reaver, (you literally suck the life force and free will of those around you, without even realizing it) and your continued existence threatens the destruction of the Force.

So. Goddamn. Awesome.

What makes it doubly amazing is that it explains some strictly gameplay related things too

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like why you gain XP from killing enemies

 

[rob_simple]

Not enough love to Witcher 1 in this thread

The main bad guy of that game, the man you kill 5 seconds before this twist is fully revealed, is...

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... actually your adopted son Alvin who travelled through time about 40 years in the past. And you just killed him, with a sword made for monsters no less. Good job

The worst is in Red Faction: Guerrilla

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Your female love interest is a Marauder. I'm sorry, I didn't know marauding is something carried in your blood! They tried to make this such a big thing too! I'm sorry, but marauders are called such for ****ing marauding, and you spend your days in the garage making hi-tech equipment to resistance troops! You wear proper clothing instead of that Mad Max rubbish! This is in no way a controversial reveal, writers! Mason should have just replied "Uh huh... so how does this matter in any way?"

I just wanted to say you have my favourite avatar on this site. And the Red Faction: Guerilla twist was confusing, in that I have no idea why any of the writers ever thought someone would be shocked by it.

Best: KoTOR

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You are Revan!!! So much foreshadowing but completely unexpected on your first playthrough. I loved it.

I'm actually going to have to say I consider KOTOR one of the worst. That foreshadowing you mention? I did pick up on it in my first playthrough. In fact, I felt like I was being so beaten over the head with it that I was concerned about the possibility of a concussion. Then they simply confirmed everything I'd already figured out who knows how many hours ago as though it was supposed to be a shock, when really it just felt like they thought I was an idiot who wouldn't notice that they spent most of the game spelling it out in big letters for me. I actually stopped playing not long after that because I just didn't care for the writing and that felt like the final slap in the face.

Thank you. The real plot twist about KOTOR came when I looked here and so many people (3-4) considered it a surprise. Everybody I've spoken to up to this point figured it before the reveal. Well, we did agree that it's a cool plot twist, only not a surprise.

Good

Spoiler: Legacy of Kain

I always liked the overly-dramatic story for this series, and the twist in Soul Reaver 2 that Kain raised Raziel and his brothers from the bodies of a clan of vampire hunters came as a genuine surprise. The time traveling fight that followed was a bit dumb, mind you.

Ah, but that was in Soul Reaver 1. SR2 furthered the plot twist, though (among other plot twists. The LoK series probably have the most things that turn everything on it's head once they come up)

Spoiler: Soul Reaver 2's further twist(s)

Raziel finds clues about some weird creatures that look like him but seem to be long extinct as almost nothing is left by them. So he finds Janos Audron, a vampire that had an offhand mention as a very old inhuman monster. Only it turns out he is one of the Ancients. Also not really a monster. However, Sarafan vampire hunters followed Raziel and managed to capture and kill Janos in front of Raz's eyes. Also, it was the human Raziel who did it. This leads to Raziel (the playable one) to infiltrate the Sarafan stronghold for revenge.

Also, the death of Janos, made Vorador massacre six of the circle of nine. The very beginning of Blood Omen. It wasn't just a random act of cruelty on the vampire's part as we were led to believe - it was just pure revenge.

Oh, and in the mean time, Moebius, along with Malek held Raziel away from this. Moebius prevented Malek - the guardian of the circle, to actually guard them, that's why in the beginning of BO, Malek was late. And for this, he was punished some time later - his spirit bound to his armour and his body left to die. Rather cruel punishment. No wonder he turned butter and hateful.

And here comes the ironic turn of events. Raziel, Dumah, Rahab, Melchiah, Turel, Zephon - the true extend of Kain's joke is not only that he raised some of his greatest enemies as his greatest allies and comrades. It was also one of their own that made them die in the first place - Raziel, former vampire hunter, former vampire, was the instrument of their destruction.

And when all is said and done, the best plot twists comes (at least for me): the Reaver blade, which Raziel used to slay his twice former brethren, turned to consume him. And then the realization hits him:

...the ravenous, soul-devouring entity trapped in the blade was - and always had been - me.
This is why the blade was destroyed when Kain tried to strike me down - the Reaver could not devour its own soul. The paradox shattered the blade.
So - this was my terrible destiny - to play out this purgatorial cycle for all eternity...
I could not bear it - despair overwhelmed me.

And after the plot twist - surprise: Kain prevents Raziel's fate...only to turn things around once more as the history readjusts itself to this turn of events...

Well played, sir. I've not played the game in almost ten years, perhaps it's time I went back to them...and finally finish Defiance.

 

[DoPo]

Well played, sir. I've not played the game in almost ten years, perhaps it's time I went back to them...and finally finish Defiance.

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[shadyh8er]

Worst

Spoiler: Resident Evil 5

Jill is alive.

I love that game to death, but literally everyone I showed that game to figured it out before the halfway point. It proves once and for all how big of a meat head Chris is. "So slow to catch on" indeed.

 

[xplosive59]

well the worst I can think of is not from a game but a movie.
Knowing.

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Aliens. The powers that allowed the random humans to tell the future and are behind the list of numbers were... Aliens. What. The. fuck. As soon as I saw the ship descending through the clouds I turned the movie off and never touched it again.

And the best? Hmmm... I actually can`t think of any good ones. But the worst game one is probaly in Shadow the Hedgehog.

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Black dooms blood is in Shadow? What? Uh... Okay?

Not just aliens but...

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christian psuedo-angel aliens who want to save the human race via recreating the story of Adam and Eve

OT: Best Twist is probably Braid, If you've played the game you know which part im talking about or in Mgs1...

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Where it turns out Miller has been dead the entire time and Liquid has tricked you into arming Rex instead of Disarming it, and at the same time you find out that Naomi is trying to kill you because her brother is Gray Fox

Worst, not a game but Knowing as implied earlier, that film was alright up until like 20 mins from the end, but the christianity elements made me go WTF multiple times.

 

[Soviet Heavy]

A lot of people mentioning KotOR here.

That one never worked for me. It was well conceived and clever and all, but...

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The nature of the player character completely undermined it.

"Really? That clueless dunce is the galaxy-threatening badass? That oblivious guy who spends the whole game blankly staring into the middle distance? The one with the approximate expressiveness of a fence post?"

"Well, there goes any interest I ever had in this Revan chap that everyone wouldn't shut up about."

As for good twists:

"Would you kindly..."

What a lot of people who hold up Revan as ze ubermensch fail to remember is that almost all of the mega genius super Jedi stuff came in the second game, done by Obsidian. The ironic thing about that is that Kreia, the one who tells you about how much of a super genius Revan was, is lying about everything. It was meant to be ambiguous, but Bioware cannot handle ambiguity at all, so they just kept purporting the super jedi like it was a known fact.

Obsidian did more with the setting that Bioware ever did, yet they take the credit because they invented the character.

And honestly, do we even need to spoiler Revan anymore? He's the modern equivalent of I am your Father, except it is closer to "No John, you are the Zombies!" on the emotional scale.

 

[Solo-Wing]

well the worst I can think of is not from a game but a movie.
Knowing.

Spoiler

Aliens. The powers that allowed the random humans to tell the future and are behind the list of numbers were... Aliens. What. The. fuck. As soon as I saw the ship descending through the clouds I turned the movie off and never touched it again.

And the best? Hmmm... I actually can`t think of any good ones. But the worst game one is probaly in Shadow the Hedgehog.

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Black dooms blood is in Shadow? What? Uh... Okay?

Not just aliens but...

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christian psuedo-angel aliens who want to save the human race via recreating the story of Adam and Eve

Really? Thank god I turned it off then.

 

[Zhukov]

A lot of people mentioning KotOR here.

That one never worked for me. It was well conceived and clever and all, but...

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The nature of the player character completely undermined it.

"Really? That clueless dunce is the galaxy-threatening badass? That oblivious guy who spends the whole game blankly staring into the middle distance? The one with the approximate expressiveness of a fence post?"

"Well, there goes any interest I ever had in this Revan chap that everyone wouldn't shut up about."

As for good twists:

"Would you kindly..."

What a lot of people who hold up Revan as ze ubermensch fail to remember is that almost all of the mega genius super Jedi stuff came in the second game, done by Obsidian. The ironic thing about that is that Kreia, the one who tells you about how much of a super genius Revan was, is lying about everything. It was meant to be ambiguous, but Bioware cannot handle ambiguity at all, so they just kept purporting the super jedi like it was a known fact.

Obsidian did more with the setting that Bioware ever did, yet they take the credit because they invented the character.

And honestly, do we even need to spoiler Revan anymore? He's the modern equivalent of I am your Father, except it is closer to "No John, you are the Zombies!" on the emotional scale.

Meh.

I was no more impressed by the Obsidian take on Revan than Bioware's. They didn't add much of note and never bothered to resolve the whole thing.

 

[Soviet Heavy]

A lot of people mentioning KotOR here.

That one never worked for me. It was well conceived and clever and all, but...

Spoiler

The nature of the player character completely undermined it.

"Really? That clueless dunce is the galaxy-threatening badass? That oblivious guy who spends the whole game blankly staring into the middle distance? The one with the approximate expressiveness of a fence post?"

"Well, there goes any interest I ever had in this Revan chap that everyone wouldn't shut up about."

As for good twists:

"Would you kindly..."

What a lot of people who hold up Revan as ze ubermensch fail to remember is that almost all of the mega genius super Jedi stuff came in the second game, done by Obsidian. The ironic thing about that is that Kreia, the one who tells you about how much of a super genius Revan was, is lying about everything. It was meant to be ambiguous, but Bioware cannot handle ambiguity at all, so they just kept purporting the super jedi like it was a known fact.

Obsidian did more with the setting that Bioware ever did, yet they take the credit because they invented the character.

And honestly, do we even need to spoiler Revan anymore? He's the modern equivalent of I am your Father, except it is closer to "No John, you are the Zombies!" on the emotional scale.

Meh.

I was no more impressed by the Obsidian take on Revan than Bioware's. They didn't add much of note and never bothered to resolve the whole thing.

I'm still bitter about what Karpyshin did to KOTOR 2, so sorry if I'm a little uppity about it.

 

[Zhukov]

I'm still bitter about what Karpyshin did to KOTOR 2, so sorry if I'm a little uppity about it.

Really? What did he do?

Isn't (wasn't) Karpyshin a Bioware guy? How did he affect KOTOR2?

 

[Soviet Heavy]

I'm still bitter about what Karpyshin did to KOTOR 2, so sorry if I'm a little uppity about it.

Really? What did he do?

Isn't (wasn't) Karpyshin a Bioware guy? How did he affect KOTOR2?

He wrote the continuation of the games in the Novel Star Wars: Revan. He flat out ignored the Sith Triumvirate, never mentioned the Exile's Force Wound at all, killed T3M4 by slagging the poor robot in an undignified manner, forgot to mention that the Jedi were almost exterminated during the early section of the novel that immediately followed KOTOR1, turned the True Sith from some unknown, almost mythical enemy hinted at by Kreia into Galactic Empire 2.0, and then killed the Exile off by stabbing her in the back before she could do anything for the entire novel. And the Exile is now called Meetra Surik, which is a stupid name.

It isn't the first time he's smashed apart someone else's contribution to the EU. His Darth Bane books shit over the original comics and generally make little sense.

I'm not saying that Drew is a bad writer, but he should stick to scripts, because his novelist skills are appalling.